# Monk 7/9 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 10, 2004, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monk-7-9/254427 "2004-07-10T13:17:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Scarlett67](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scarlett67/32/7387_2.png) [@Scarlett67](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scarlett67)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2004, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monk-7-9/254427/1 "2004-07-10T13:17:50Z")
Initial remarks: Who else enjoyed the homage to _Silence of the Lambs_? Loved the bit at the end with the roses. Mr. S had to point out the musical treat at the very end – I wasn’t paying attention. What did you think? ---
**Author:** ![Scarlett67](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scarlett67/32/7387_2.png) [@Scarlett67](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scarlett67)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2004, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monk-7-9/254427/2 "2004-07-12T12:05:41Z")
Anyone? Anyone? I could have sworn there were other _Monk_ fans here. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Suse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@Suse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suse)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2004, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monk-7-9/254427/3 "2004-07-12T12:31:05Z")
> [@](#): > > Mr. S had to point out the musical treat at the very end – I wasn’t paying attention. What musical bit? I missed it completely! ---
**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2004, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monk-7-9/254427/4 "2004-07-12T13:04:57Z")
I assume you mean they played the first-season theme song. They’ve been doing that from time to time this year. ---
**Author:** ![BiblioCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BiblioCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BiblioCat)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2004, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monk-7-9/254427/5 "2004-07-12T13:27:20Z")
> [@Scarlett67](#): > > Initial remarks: > > Who else enjoyed the homage to _Silence of the Lambs_? I laughed at the beginning when they were pulling stuff up and down in the basket, and again with the night-vision goggles. Even though that movie scares me. When I first started watching _Monk_, I had no idea Stottlemyer was Jame Gumb. He looks so different. This was a really good episode, more like the first season. I loved how Monk had all the note cards laid out for his phone call to the power-company woman, with all the possible topics - and the “Trudy” pile was so much bigger than all the others. ---
**Author:** ![gooti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/eb8c5e/32.png) [@gooti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gooti)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2004, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monk-7-9/254427/6 "2004-07-12T18:35:54Z")
> [@BiblioCat](#): > > I laughed at the beginning when they were pulling stuff up and down in the basket, and again with the night-vision goggles. Even though that movie scares me. When I first started watching _Monk_, I had no idea Stottlemyer was Jame Gumb. He looks so different. :smack: _big whoosh_ Even though I knew he was “Buffalo Bill” (that voice is unmistakable) those allusions you just pointed out went right over my head. Thanks for deepening my appreciation for a very good episode. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![lurkernomore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d6d6ee/32.png) [@lurkernomore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lurkernomore)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2004, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monk-7-9/254427/7 "2004-07-12T18:49:44Z")
The big thing I noticed? Is Adrian on the road to getting well? OK, the date was forced on him, but the end, where she says “If I didn’t have cooties, I’d kiss you” he replies with “If you didn’t have cooties, I’d let you.” The date, the shrink, maybe they are coerced. That wasn’t. Reflection on his problems, and a desire to end them? ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2004, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monk-7-9/254427/8 "2004-07-12T19:10:03Z")
> [@Scarlett67](#): > > Anyone? Anyone? Don’t look at me, I wasn’t home in time to catch the whole episode. ---
**Author:** ![DMark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@DMark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMark)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2004, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monk-7-9/254427/9 "2004-07-13T23:55:11Z")
I caught the episode, but only by sheer luck…I didn’t see a single promo announcing the new season. (Speaking of which, I hope this “season” is longer than the last - what was it, six episodes last time?) I thought it was a good episode and Monk on a date was fun…but this was an episode where the quirks were far more interesting than the story…blackout so no one would see him at a Willy Nelson concert? Hmm…kinda lame. But everything else about the show was a hoot. ---
**Author:** ![amarinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2004, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monk-7-9/254427/10 "2004-07-14T00:33:03Z")
> [@BiblioCat](#): > > This was a really good episode, more like the first season. I loved how Monk had all the note cards laid out for his phone call to the power-company woman, with all the possible topics - and the “Trudy” pile was so much bigger than all the others. I loved the cards. And the problem with the night vision goggle plan. (Somehow, I didn’t make the SotL connection). The mystery wasn’t that great, but everything around it was. ---
**Author:** ![annieclaus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b5a626/32.png) [@annieclaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/annieclaus)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2004, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monk-7-9/254427/11 "2004-07-14T03:07:58Z")
IMHO this episode was better than previous “new season” episodes, but there’s still something not quite right with this series. Tony Shalhoub is wonderful, but sometimes his character is just stupid. And I still don’t understand why he has to have a full-time nurse. ---
**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2004, 10:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monk-7-9/254427/12 "2004-07-14T10:43:15Z")
> [@](#): > > I loved how Monk had all the note cards laid out for his phone call to the power-company woman, with all the possible topics - and the “Trudy” pile was so much bigger than all the others. That was my favorite bit. One of the things that I really enjoy about Monk is that the character is capable of loving, and at one time, he must have forced himself to conquer his fears to live a somewhat normal life with his loved one. I mean, I ASSUME that Adrian actually kissed his wife, and did other, even less sanitary things with her. I do hope that they’re going to allow the character to grow and get a bit better over time. ---
**Author:** ![SolGrundy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbce88/32.png) [@SolGrundy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SolGrundy)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2004, 10:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monk-7-9/254427/13 "2004-07-14T10:56:24Z")
> [@Lynn Bodoni](#): > > That was my favorite bit. One of the things that I really enjoy about Monk is that the character is capable of loving, and at one time, he must have forced himself to conquer his fears to live a somewhat normal life with his loved one. I mean, I ASSUME that Adrian actually kissed his wife, and did other, even less sanitary things with her. I thought that the premise of the show was that Monk had his OCD completely under control until Trudy was killed. He was always meticulous and super-observant, which made him a good cop, but it wasn’t until she was murdered that he went over the edge. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2004, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monk-7-9/254427/14 "2004-07-14T12:27:54Z")
> [@SolGrundy](#): > > I thought that the premise of the show was that Monk had his OCD completely under control until Trudy was killed. That’s what I thought. There was a flashback to high school where he lost a track event because he had to relace his tennis shoes. ---
**Author:** ![N.Sane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f19dbf/32.png) [@N.Sane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N.Sane)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2004, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monk-7-9/254427/15 "2004-07-14T14:31:18Z")
I loved the cooties bit–it was delightful. I did enjoy seeing Monk on a date. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2004, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monk-7-9/254427/16 "2004-07-14T15:08:04Z")
> [@annieclaus](#): > > And I still don’t understand why he has to have a full-time nurse. I see her more in the role of a psychologist than a nurse. Besides, he needs someone “normal” to play off of. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2004, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monk-7-9/254427/17 "2004-07-15T03:02:07Z")
Just caught a repeat. I haven’t seen _Silence of the Lambs_ and would appreciate someone pointing out what the homage was. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2004, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monk-7-9/254427/18 "2004-07-15T03:18:51Z")
I don’t catch Monk nearly as often as I’d like. Great show. Anyway, I’ve never seen Silence of the Lambs, so if anyone could fill me in on all the allusions this episode, I’d very much appreciate it. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2004, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monk-7-9/254427/19 "2004-07-15T03:38:11Z")
> [@Jeff Olsen](#): > > pointing out what the homage was. The antagonist of SOTL is the serial killer Buffalo Bill, so named because he skins his victims, played by the guy who plays Shuttlemeyer (sp) in Monk. Buffalo traps Clarise, the protagonist of SOFTL in his home in the dark. He has a pair of night vision goggles, but she manages to whack him anyway. ---
**Author:** ![BiblioCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BiblioCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BiblioCat)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2004, 11:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monk-7-9/254427/20 "2004-07-15T11:17:13Z")
In addition, he had kidnapped a young woman, and has her trapped in a deep hole in his basment (a cistern?) and passes her down lotion in a basket on a rope (to keep her skin soft). Passing stuff up to the guy in the tree via a basket was also a nod to _SotL_. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monk-7-9/254427.md?page=2)