# Monk: Another Series On The Way Out

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [November 15, 2008, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monk-another-series-on-the-way-out/472884 "2008-11-15T18:33:13Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2008, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monk-another-series-on-the-way-out/472884/41 "2008-12-30T21:05:31Z")

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Yeah, even without big name guest stars it is often (not always, but often) clear who is guilty from the beginning of the episode.

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**Author:** ![TupeloHoney](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a88e57/32.png) [@TupeloHoney](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TupeloHoney)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2009, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monk-another-series-on-the-way-out/472884/42 "2009-01-07T14:47:29Z")

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> [@AlsoNamedBort](#):
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> Monk has never been much of a whodunit though. It’s more of a howtheydunit.

Yeah, I was just going to say this, you put it much better than I would have. Honestly, most crime shows don’t really have “surprise” killers, though it’s cool when they do, and Monk has definitely made my jaw drop a few times. But a lot of the time Monk knows who did it but just can’t prove it because he doesn’t know HOW. Like “Mr. Monk and the Astronaut,” one of my favorite “howtheydunit” eps.

Mostly I really like Bradley Whitford, almost as much as Tony Shalhoub, and so seeing them on screen together is basically going to be full of awesome.

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**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2009, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monk-another-series-on-the-way-out/472884/43 "2009-01-07T17:17:25Z")

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I mostly like Monk. The biggest annoyance for me is when they go into one of their “let’s go into a Monk bit and beat you over the head with it”. Like when they went to New York, and Monk and Stottlemeyer are trying to have a conversation and it keeps getting interrupted by the jack-hammer. That might have been funny for a couple of tries, but they just kept that bit going far too long.

They had a round at that time of doing something like that every episode, taking some Monk bit and dragging it out until the audience wants to scream.

They did the same gag not long ago, with Monk going into the monastary to talk to Stottlemeyer, and some monk (priest) shsshing him. It gave me flashbacks.

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**Author:** ![ponsonby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/898d66/32.png) [@ponsonby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ponsonby)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2009, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monk-another-series-on-the-way-out/472884/44 "2009-01-07T20:37:51Z")

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The lieutenant who follows the captain around. I know it’s a light hearted comedy/mystery show, but every time he comes on screen it gets on my nerves. How the fuck could someone that stupid get into the SFPD, let alone get to the rank of detective lieutenant. I like the whole cast actually, including the actor who plays the lieutenant, just hate the character. The main reason why I couldn’t watch the show regularly.

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**Author:** ![Suse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@Suse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suse)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2009, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monk-another-series-on-the-way-out/472884/45 "2009-01-07T22:11:37Z")

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I loved it until the episode where Monk goes to New York. That was just so sad that it stuck with me. So the various tics and obsessions he demonstrates now don’t come off as comedic any more for me and it’s just too depressing to watch most of the time. I don’t get USA anyway, so it really doesn’t matter.

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**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2009, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monk-another-series-on-the-way-out/472884/46 "2009-01-07T23:21:11Z")

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> [@ponsonby](#):
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> The lieutenant who follows the captain around. I know it’s a light hearted comedy/mystery show, but every time he comes on screen it gets on my nerves. How the fuck could someone that stupid get into the SFPD, let alone get to the rank of detective lieutenant. I like the whole cast actually, including the actor who plays the lieutenant, just hate the character. The main reason why I couldn’t watch the show regularly.

Randy can show some real brilliance sometime. Like in the most recent over where he took over after the captain left. I think there’s another episode where he figures the crime out at the same time as time, making a pretty fun “here’s what happened” scene.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2009, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monk-another-series-on-the-way-out/472884/47 "2009-01-07T23:37:45Z")

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> [@AlsoNamedBort](#):
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> Randy can show some real brilliance sometime. Like in the most recent over where he took over after the captain left. I think there’s another episode where he figures the crime out at the same time as time, making a pretty fun “here’s what happened” scene.

I agree, the writers have little respect for Randy. In “Mr. Monk and the Airplane,” Randy had also taken over from the captain and shown himself to be a competent detective. He was able to keep up with Monk when Monk called him to tell him about the murder and where the corpse would be buried, and Disher was right on the scene to dig it up and collect the evidence. The writers should stop turning Randy into an _idiot-savant._ Leave the idiosyncrasies for Monk.

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**Author:** ![Scarlett67](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scarlett67/32/7387_2.png) [@Scarlett67](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scarlett67)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monk-another-series-on-the-way-out/472884/48 "2009-01-08T01:17:11Z")

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> [@AlsoNamedBort](#):
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> Randy can show some real brilliance sometime. Like in the most recent over where he took over after the captain left. I think there’s another episode where he figures the crime out at the same time as time, making a pretty fun “here’s what happened” scene.

I loved Randy in the one where they got trapped in the bank vault: “CALL 911 U SILVER BASTARD.”

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monk-another-series-on-the-way-out/472884/49 "2009-01-08T01:33:36Z")

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**Le** land **St** ottelmeyer, **Ra** ndy **De** acon (later changed to _Disher_).

Lestrade.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monk-another-series-on-the-way-out/472884/50 "2009-01-08T01:47:36Z")

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Better than

_It rubs the lotion in,  
Or it gets the hose again!_  
I suppose.  
🙂

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**Author:** ![TupeloHoney](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a88e57/32.png) [@TupeloHoney](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TupeloHoney)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2009, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monk-another-series-on-the-way-out/472884/51 "2009-01-09T14:55:36Z")

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Premiere tonight, guys! You all gonna watch?

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**Author:** ![flyboy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/4da419/32.png) [@flyboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flyboy)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2009, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monk-another-series-on-the-way-out/472884/52 "2009-01-09T16:09:25Z")

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I’ll watch. Sad news about this being the last season, but at least I’ll have Psych and Maggie Lawson to replace Monk and Traylor Howard. I just hope Psych can find a big enough audience to survive.

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2009, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monk-another-series-on-the-way-out/472884/53 "2009-01-09T16:47:51Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> Better than
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> _It rubs the lotion in,  
> Or it gets the hose again!_  
> I suppose.  
> 🙂

I’m waiting for the day he called Disher into his office and asks _“Hey Randy, let me ask you a question – would you fuck me? I’d fuck me…I’d fuck me so hard…”_

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**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2009, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monk-another-series-on-the-way-out/472884/54 "2009-01-09T20:35:30Z")

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> [@flyboy](#):
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> I’ll watch. Sad news about this being the last season, but at least I’ll have Psych and Maggie Lawson to replace Monk and Traylor Howard. I just hope Psych can find a big enough audience to survive.

[hijack] I love _psych_, but really am “meh” on Maggie Lawson, both as an actress and from an attractiveness standpoint. The high school reunion episode where Shawn gives up his high school might-have-been love interest (who was extremely cute) because he catches a glimpse of O’Hara…please. I get that they’re trying to get mileage out of the whole sexual tension thing between the two of them, but that was completely unbelievable (yes, I know I’m talking about _psych_ here).[/hijack]

On topic, this episode of Monk looks really annoying from the previews. Of course, I’ll watch it anyway.

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**Author:** ![TupeloHoney](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a88e57/32.png) [@TupeloHoney](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TupeloHoney)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2009, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monk-another-series-on-the-way-out/472884/55 "2009-01-14T15:31:27Z")

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> [@flyboy](#):
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> I’ll watch. Sad news about this being the last season, but at least I’ll have Psych and Maggie Lawson to replace Monk and Traylor Howard. I just hope Psych can find a big enough audience to survive.

Actually the episodes that are coming on now are the second half of season seven. After that there is a whole season 8 to go, so there is one more season after this one.

I loved the premiere… Steve Zahn was hilarious, I always forget how good he is in these guest appearances. I loved the recurrence of the pancakes thing… yeah continuity! Next week’s episode looks great too.

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**Author:** ![StGermain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stgermain/32/2868_2.png) [@StGermain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StGermain)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2009, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monk-another-series-on-the-way-out/472884/56 "2009-01-14T15:53:58Z")

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If I were Monk, I’d have a square cookie-cutter to mold the pancakes, or to cut out the perfect shape. Using your spatula makes them slightly irregular.

What?

StG

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2009, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monk-another-series-on-the-way-out/472884/57 "2009-01-14T17:41:09Z")

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> [@Frylock](#):
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> I stopped watching a season or two ago. It was, I thought at the time, becoming stupid in several ways. But I would definitely watch the final run up to and including the last episode, to see questions like this addressed.
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> -

I agree. It started as a Mystery show with a quirky detective. Now it’s a quirky show about Quirks and how “funny” being insane is, and oh yes, there’s some sort of murder. Which is funny.:rolleyes:

**Billdo** sez it better. Ponsonby is right about Disher.

But at least they don’t go for the sexual tension thing between Monk and his assistant, or at least not that I have seen. I am so fucking tired of that.

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**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2009, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monk-another-series-on-the-way-out/472884/58 "2009-01-14T18:24:00Z")

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> [@StGermain](#):
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> If I were Monk, I’d have a square cookie-cutter to mold the pancakes, or to cut out the perfect shape. Using your spatula makes them slightly irregular.
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> What?
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> StG

He probably couldn’t find one the right size.

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**Author:** ![TupeloHoney](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a88e57/32.png) [@TupeloHoney](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TupeloHoney)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2009, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monk-another-series-on-the-way-out/472884/59 "2009-01-23T15:01:04Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> I agree. It started as a Mystery show with a quirky detective. Now it’s a quirky show about Quirks and how “funny” being insane is, and oh yes, there’s some sort of murder. Which is funny.:rolleyes:
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> **Billdo** sez it better. Ponsonby is right about Disher.
> 
> But at least they don’t go for the sexual tension thing between Monk and his assistant, or at least not that I have seen. I am so fucking tired of that.

Haha, yeah. I like the relationship between Natalie and Monk, it’s nice that it isn’t a romantic thing, at least not yet. This most recent episode was good for the two of them, though I felt sooo bad for Natalie!

Tonight’s episode has Gena Rowlands guest starring as a little old lady who helps Monk cross the street… 😃 :smack: This show is so ridiculous, in such a good way. Love it.

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**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2009, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monk-another-series-on-the-way-out/472884/60 "2009-01-23T17:04:28Z")

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> [@aruvqan](#):
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> > [@Spiny\_Norman](#):
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> > Friday, while wandering aimlessly across the Paramount lot with a couple of colleagues, we happened upon an external shot for Monk - they’d just wrapped and were in the process of dismantling the set. Obviously, being the tactless clod that I am, I started dissecting the shortcomings in the writing in recent episodes and why I felt the show was lacking, lately - until my colleague jabbed me in the ribs and pointed - to the unmistakable profile of Tony Shalhoub standing 10 feet away. Smooth move, Spiny. I deftly checked that my ID badge wasn’t showing and made a fast exit - but I am happy to learn that I wasn’t speaking anything but the conventional wisdom.
> 
> It isnt the actors fault, it is the writers at fault …

You do know that Tony Shalhoub is one of the series’ Executive Producers, no?

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