# Montreal Cognitive Assessment - I Guess I am Just Not as Smart as the President **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [July 25, 2020, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/montreal-cognitive-assessment-i-guess-i-am-just-not-as-smart-as-the-president/916273 "2020-07-25T00:59:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Ynnad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/4491bb/32.png) [@Ynnad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ynnad)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2020, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/montreal-cognitive-assessment-i-guess-i-am-just-not-as-smart-as-the-president/916273/1 "2020-07-25T00:59:46Z")
Today I looked at the Montreal Cognitive Assessment that president Trump has made famous in the last few days. I am unable to identify the middle animal in the NAMING section. I think it may be a White Rhinocerus (_Ceratotherium simum_) or a Black Rhinocerus (_Diceros bicornis_). Can anyone on the SDMB name this animal? If you can, how did you figure it out? Link to assessment: [MoCA Cognition](https://www.mocatest.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/MoCA-New-Test-8.1-2017-04.pdf) ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2020, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/montreal-cognitive-assessment-i-guess-i-am-just-not-as-smart-as-the-president/916273/2 "2020-07-25T01:46:08Z")
I can’t help you there because, though I am a very good drafter, I haven’t the slightest notion what #1 is supposed to accomplish. ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2020, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/montreal-cognitive-assessment-i-guess-i-am-just-not-as-smart-as-the-president/916273/3 "2020-07-25T01:53:24Z")
Black rhino, aka hook-lipped rhino. The upper lip gives it away. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2020, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/montreal-cognitive-assessment-i-guess-i-am-just-not-as-smart-as-the-president/916273/4 "2020-07-25T01:55:12Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > I can’t help you there because, though I am a very good drafter, I haven’t the slightest notion what #1 is supposed to accomplish. You’re supposed to figure out the sequence goes 1-A-2-B-3-C-4-D-5-E ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2020, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/montreal-cognitive-assessment-i-guess-i-am-just-not-as-smart-as-the-president/916273/5 "2020-07-25T01:55:22Z")
1-A 2-B 3-C 4-D. Yes it’s a Rhino ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2020, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/montreal-cognitive-assessment-i-guess-i-am-just-not-as-smart-as-the-president/916273/6 "2020-07-25T01:57:34Z")
But what do you get if you cross it with an elephant? Elephino! ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2020, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/montreal-cognitive-assessment-i-guess-i-am-just-not-as-smart-as-the-president/916273/7 "2020-07-25T01:59:09Z")
Or a rant. ---
**Author:** ![Ynnad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/4491bb/32.png) [@Ynnad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ynnad)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2020, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/montreal-cognitive-assessment-i-guess-i-am-just-not-as-smart-as-the-president/916273/8 "2020-07-25T02:03:04Z")
The upper lip definitely makes it look like a Black Rhinoceros. But the horns and the way it holds its head suggests a White Rhinoceros, ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2020, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/montreal-cognitive-assessment-i-guess-i-am-just-not-as-smart-as-the-president/916273/9 "2020-07-25T02:07:58Z")
The horns look consistent with a Black Rhino to me. The White Rhino’s front horn is longer relative to the rear one. ---
**Author:** ![Ynnad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/4491bb/32.png) [@Ynnad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ynnad)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2020, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/montreal-cognitive-assessment-i-guess-i-am-just-not-as-smart-as-the-president/916273/10 "2020-07-25T02:25:15Z")
In the pictures I looked at today the Black Rhinoceros’s horns looked like there was a greater length to circumference ratio, _i.e_. they were “pointier”, than those of the White Rhinoceros. But it also looked like there was a great deal of variation between individuals of the same species. ---
**Author:** ![Ynnad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/4491bb/32.png) [@Ynnad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ynnad)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2020, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/montreal-cognitive-assessment-i-guess-i-am-just-not-as-smart-as-the-president/916273/11 "2020-07-25T02:26:25Z")
But if I had to guess, I would probably go with Black Rhinoceros as well. ---
**Author:** ![SmartAleq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smartaleq/32/163_2.png) [@SmartAleq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAleq)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2020, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/montreal-cognitive-assessment-i-guess-i-am-just-not-as-smart-as-the-president/916273/12 "2020-07-25T02:29:28Z")
> [@SCAdian](#): > > Black rhino, aka hook-lipped rhino. The upper lip gives it away. The “white” in “White Rhino” is actually “weit,” or wide to differentiate it from that hook lip on the black rhino, which actually is named for its coloration. ---
**Author:** ![MichaelEmouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/michaelemouse/32/101_2.png) [@MichaelEmouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MichaelEmouse)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2020, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/montreal-cognitive-assessment-i-guess-i-am-just-not-as-smart-as-the-president/916273/13 "2020-07-25T02:44:07Z")
Ynnad, do you really think the test is asking you to differentiate between different types of rhinoceroses? It’s a basic “is your brain malfunctioning” test, not a test of detailed zoological knowledge. Of course you’re able to identify the middle animal. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2020, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/montreal-cognitive-assessment-i-guess-i-am-just-not-as-smart-as-the-president/916273/14 "2020-07-25T02:51:04Z")
> [@MichaelEmouse](#): > > Ynnad, do you really think the test is asking you to differentiate between different types of rhinoceroses? I assumed he was kidding in terms of that being the intent of the test; but that it’s an interesting question anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Ynnad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/4491bb/32.png) [@Ynnad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ynnad)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2020, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/montreal-cognitive-assessment-i-guess-i-am-just-not-as-smart-as-the-president/916273/15 "2020-07-25T02:51:46Z")
Why do you think this post was in MPSIMS and not General Questions? ---
**Author:** ![Ynnad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/4491bb/32.png) [@Ynnad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ynnad)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2020, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/montreal-cognitive-assessment-i-guess-i-am-just-not-as-smart-as-the-president/916273/16 "2020-07-25T02:53:59Z")
I was able to tell right away that the animal on the right was a Dromedary Camel. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2020, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/montreal-cognitive-assessment-i-guess-i-am-just-not-as-smart-as-the-president/916273/17 "2020-07-25T02:56:48Z")
> [@Ynnad](#): > > I was able to tell right away that the animal on the right was a Dromedary Camel Male or female? ---
**Author:** ![Ynnad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/4491bb/32.png) [@Ynnad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ynnad)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2020, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/montreal-cognitive-assessment-i-guess-i-am-just-not-as-smart-as-the-president/916273/18 "2020-07-25T03:01:49Z")
Male or female? How dare you assume that camel even identifies with any gender! ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2020, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/montreal-cognitive-assessment-i-guess-i-am-just-not-as-smart-as-the-president/916273/19 "2020-07-25T03:03:49Z")
It’s been a while since I’ve looked at the test. I think the last five questions are really hard. People, lots of people, people who have specific names. They’re always telling me how hard the last few questions are. ---
**Author:** ![Fretful\_Porpentine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fretful_porpentine/32/2873_2.png) [@Fretful\_Porpentine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fretful_Porpentine)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2020, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/montreal-cognitive-assessment-i-guess-i-am-just-not-as-smart-as-the-president/916273/20 "2020-07-25T03:05:59Z")
I’m going to have “face velvet church daisy red” stuck in my head for the rest of my life. I hope they change up the list of words from time to time, because otherwise I’m going to be real good at gaming this test in 40 years when I really _do_ have Alzheimer’s. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/montreal-cognitive-assessment-i-guess-i-am-just-not-as-smart-as-the-president/916273.md?page=2)