# Monty is a traitor **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 4, 2002, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-is-a-traitor/107207 "2002-05-04T03:30:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![kniz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/c37758/32.png) [@kniz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kniz)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2002, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-is-a-traitor/107207/1 "2002-05-04T03:30:42Z")
In GD there is a debate going on that has gotten side tracked because an Army officer **Stankow** has trouble grasping the idea that **“Every Marine is a rifleman”**. This is despite the fact that the Commandant of the Marine Corps has said those very words. **Monty** has recently gotten involved in the debate and has come up with what he thinks is a compromise. _All Marines and all Army personel are trained as infantrymen in the beginning so what’s the beef._ **Bullshit** , part of **Stankow’s** problem is that he wants everyone to know that the infantry is better than the cooks, artillery, etc, in the Army and by association in the Marine Corps. Well what my beef is concerns the fact that the Marines are part of the Navy. Monty was in the Navy. Nobody in the Marine Corps would not side with the Army against the Navy even if the Navy was wrong, but in this case this is something **Monty** knows is true about the Marine Corps and is still trying to be **Mr. PC** 😛 The discussion has gotten to the point that someone has said that it should be in the BBQ, except that for the language. Well, I want to know **“What the fuck’s your problem Monty?”** The Navy couldn’t fight it’s way out of a cardboard box, so where does your expertise come from? ---
**Author:** ![kniz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/c37758/32.png) [@kniz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kniz)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2002, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-is-a-traitor/107207/2 "2002-05-04T03:34:06Z")
That should read “Nobody in the Marine Corps would not side with the Navy against the Army.” ---
**Author:** ![Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/50afbb/32.png) [@Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duck_Duck_Goose)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2002, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-is-a-traitor/107207/3 "2002-05-04T04:21:34Z")
[Link.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=111214) I’ll come back after I’ve parsed this: “Nobody would not side with the Navy.” “Everybody WOULD side WITH the Navy”? My brain hurts. ---
**Author:** ![Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/50afbb/32.png) [@Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duck_Duck_Goose)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2002, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-is-a-traitor/107207/4 "2002-05-04T04:36:48Z")
WELL, THERE I READ THE **WHOLE. DAMN. THREAD.** AND I STILL DON’T HAVE A FUCKING CLUE WHAT YOUR BEEF IS WITH MONTY. It sounded to me like Sgt.J and Stankow and Monty and everybody had resolved their little difference over “which way the Marine Corps ties their shoelaces, is it with the bunny going through the rabbit hole or the bunny going around the tree”, and now here you are in the Pit? What’s Monty a traitor to, anyway? And my brain \*really \* hurts now. And it’s **ALL. YOUR. FAULT.** ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2002, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-is-a-traitor/107207/5 "2002-05-04T12:27:58Z")
DDG: Evidently kniz missed the bit about my military service starting in the Army. What I’m really curious is how he managed to get the keyboard to type in something remotely resembling English when it’s quite apparent that he’s not communicating with a known language of Planet Earth. ---
**Author:** ![Waverly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/57b2e6/32.png) [@Waverly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waverly)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2002, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-is-a-traitor/107207/6 "2002-05-04T14:07:36Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by kniz \* > The Navy couldn’t fight it’s way out of a cardboard box, so where does your expertise come from? I find this offensive. It trivializes the contributions of thousands who have served their country in the Navy. Care to explain yourself? ---
**Author:** ![Tranquilis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tranquilis/32/3639_2.png) [@Tranquilis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tranquilis)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2002, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-is-a-traitor/107207/7 "2002-05-04T18:22:16Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Waverly \* > > > [@](#): > > > > \*Originally posted by kniz \* > > The Navy couldn’t fight it’s way out of a cardboard box, so where does your expertise come from? > > \*\*I find this offensive. It trivializes the contributions of thousands who have served their country in the Navy. Care to explain yourself? \*\* I’ll explain it for you. **kniz** has no clue on the subject. That will be all. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2002, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-is-a-traitor/107207/8 "2002-05-04T19:36:25Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by kniz \* > \*\*That should read “Nobody in the Marine Corps would not side with the Navy against the Army.” \*\* I nominate this post for the “Least Clear Clarification of the Week” award. ---
**Author:** ![casdave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c6cbf5/32.png) [@casdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/casdave)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2002, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-is-a-traitor/107207/9 "2002-05-04T20:59:56Z")
Hmmm, looks like someone got left with all the wrong scrabble tiles again. ---
**Author:** ![Sgt.J](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@Sgt.J](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sgt.J)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2002, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-is-a-traitor/107207/10 "2002-05-05T17:57:31Z")
Lord knows I know how hard it can be for a Marine without a fight, but I think you’re reachin’ a bit here buddy. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![kniz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/c37758/32.png) [@kniz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kniz)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2002, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-is-a-traitor/107207/11 "2002-05-06T04:58:16Z")
. Nevermind :o ---
**Author:** ![vanilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f19dbf/32.png) [@vanilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vanilla)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2002, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-is-a-traitor/107207/12 "2002-05-06T13:31:28Z")
shall we take away his citizenship then? ---
**Author:** ![Wikkit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c0e974/32.png) [@Wikkit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wikkit)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2002, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-is-a-traitor/107207/13 "2002-05-06T13:44:23Z")
No, enlist him in the Navy. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2002, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-is-a-traitor/107207/14 "2002-05-06T14:20:34Z")
Wikkit: Can’t do that. I’m already retired Navy. ---
**Author:** ![Sgt.J](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@Sgt.J](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sgt.J)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2002, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-is-a-traitor/107207/15 "2002-05-06T15:48:35Z")
SILENCE TRAITOR! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![flyboy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/4da419/32.png) [@flyboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flyboy)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2002, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-is-a-traitor/107207/16 "2002-05-07T01:39:18Z")
I’m current Navy. Up yours, kniz. And fwiw, I don’t think the Navy would take someone this profoundly stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2002, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-is-a-traitor/107207/17 "2002-05-07T04:00:59Z")
Care to elaborate, flyboy? ---
**Author:** ![Sgt.J](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@Sgt.J](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sgt.J)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2002, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-is-a-traitor/107207/18 "2002-05-07T15:43:16Z")
I think he was talking about kniz, Monty. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2002, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-is-a-traitor/107207/19 "2002-05-07T16:26:16Z")
So did I, Sgt. J. I just wanted some elaboration. You know, for entertainment’s sake. It’s that sadistic streak in me that shows up on occasion! ---
**Author:** ![Aristides](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Aristides](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aristides)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2002, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-is-a-traitor/107207/20 "2002-05-07T17:04:51Z")
Hey! No one has picked on the Air Force yet! [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-is-a-traitor/107207.md?page=2)