# Monty Python

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-python/301944>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [May 1, 2005, 10:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-python/301944 "2005-05-01T10:17:09Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Atheist\_Princess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a88e57/32.png) [@Atheist\_Princess](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atheist_Princess)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2005, 10:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-python/301944/1 "2005-05-01T10:17:09Z")

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I was wondering if anyone was such an avid fan of Monty Python that they could tell me the name of one of the characters from Monty Python and the search for The Holy Grail.

The character I’m looking for isfrom the Castle of Anthrax, there is Zoot who is the actual character, I’m looking for the name of her twin sister…dunki? dinku? Something like that. I’ve tried a few search engines with no result…

I’m only asking because it will bug me until I know.

Thanks,  
**Princess**

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**Author:** ![Schnitte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/schnitte/32/9033_2.png) [@Schnitte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Schnitte)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2005, 10:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-python/301944/2 "2005-05-01T10:24:32Z")

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Dingo. At least that’s what the screenplay says.

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**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2005, 10:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-python/301944/3 "2005-05-01T10:24:36Z")

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I don’t know the answer, but I really liked zoot’s suit.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2005, 10:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-python/301944/4 "2005-05-01T10:45:18Z")

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> [@friedo](#):
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> I don’t know the answer, but I really liked zoot’s suit.

You can’t like zoot, she’s been very naughty. In fact I think she needs a spanking.

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**Author:** ![Atheist\_Princess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a88e57/32.png) [@Atheist\_Princess](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atheist_Princess)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2005, 11:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-python/301944/5 "2005-05-01T11:28:58Z")

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> [@Joey P](#):
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> You can’t like zoot, she’s been very naughty. In fact I think she needs a spanking.

I agree 😃

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**Author:** ![Nars\_Glinley](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nars_glinley/32/8177_2.png) [@Nars\_Glinley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nars_Glinley)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2005, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-python/301944/6 "2005-05-01T13:49:26Z")

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> [@Joey P](#):
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> You can’t like zoot, she’s been very naughty. In fact I think she needs a spanking.

And then…

According to [IMDB](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0166470/), Carol Cleveland played Zoot/Dingo.

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**Author:** ![chappachula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d2c977/32.png) [@chappachula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chappachula)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2005, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-python/301944/7 "2005-05-01T17:17:30Z")

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oh, naughty, naughty zoot…

and not only spanking, but there was also the sketch about the Tudor porn shop that sold Shakespeare’s latest play “gay boys in bondage”.

Which provides the segue to my question:  
Did any other comedians dare to mention forbidden sexual issues in 1971.? (yes, I know Lenny Bruce said “fuck” on stage 2 decades earlier , but that was a small nightclub act, not prime time TV.)  
But back in 1970, when the world was still innocent, ( example: Yale University was still hesitant to allow women on its campus), did anybody else in Britain or America use open sexual language on the air?

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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2005, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-python/301944/8 "2005-05-01T18:20:37Z")

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> [@Joey P](#):
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> You can’t like zoot, she’s been very naughty. In fact I think she needs a spanking.

Ah, but while you’re distracted spanking her, Dingo will eat your baby.

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**Author:** ![engineer\_comp\_geek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/engineer_comp_geek/32/504_2.png) [@engineer\_comp\_geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/engineer_comp_geek)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2005, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-python/301944/9 "2005-05-01T19:46:32Z")

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We got an answer to this thread in the nick of time. You were in great peril.

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**Author:** ![John\_Kentzel-Griffin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ccd318/32.png) [@John\_Kentzel-Griffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Kentzel-Griffin)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2005, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-python/301944/10 "2005-05-01T20:26:15Z")

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Off to Cafe Society.

**DrMatrix** - GQ Moderator

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**Author:** ![HPL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3da27b/32.png) [@HPL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HPL)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2005, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-python/301944/11 "2005-05-01T22:07:10Z")

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> [@engineer\_comp\_geek](#):
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> We got an answer to this thread in the nick of time. You were in great peril.

I’m willing to face the peril.

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**Author:** ![engineer\_comp\_geek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/engineer_comp_geek/32/504_2.png) [@engineer\_comp\_geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/engineer_comp_geek)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2005, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-python/301944/12 "2005-05-02T00:13:20Z")

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No, it’s too perilous.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2005, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-python/301944/13 "2005-05-02T01:52:32Z")

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Ooohh, I bet you’re gay!

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**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2005, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-python/301944/14 "2005-05-02T12:57:30Z")

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> [@chappachula](#):
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> Did any other comedians dare to mention forbidden sexual issues in 1971.? (yes, I know Lenny Bruce said “fuck” on stage 2 decades earlier , but that was a small nightclub act, not prime time TV.)  
> But back in 1970, when the world was still innocent, ( example: Yale University was still hesitant to allow women on its campus), did anybody else in Britain or America use open sexual language on the air?

Well, when Monty Python was first shown on network TV (in 1974, in the absolutely terrible summer replacement series **[The Dean Martin Comedy World](http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0070979/)**), the bleeped out the words “naughty bits.” Not the bits referred to, but the actual phrase “naughty bits.”

Back then, a prime time network show was 100% clean. There were a few cracks: **All in the Family** premiered in 1971, and it slowly added sexual issues to the mix.

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**Author:** ![guinnog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/7993a0/32.png) [@guinnog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/guinnog)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2005, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-python/301944/15 "2005-05-02T13:00:34Z")

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> [@RealityChuck](#):
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> Well, when Monty Python was first shown on network TV (in 1974, in the absolutely terrible summer replacement series **[The Dean Martin Comedy World](http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0070979/)**), the bleeped out the words “naughty bits.” Not the bits referred to, but the actual phrase “naughty bits.”

I think you mean first shown on \*\*US \*\*network TV. I do not think it was censored on its origianl British showing.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2005, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-python/301944/16 "2005-05-02T18:02:54Z")

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Knight: Maybe just a _little_ peril? I can handle them easily!

Beautiful maidens of Castle Anthrax: Yes, let him handle us easily!

\<G\>

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**Author:** ![sqweels](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f19dbf/32.png) [@sqweels](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sqweels)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2005, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-python/301944/17 "2005-05-03T16:47:25Z")

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**chappachula** :

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> and not only spanking, but there was also the sketch about the Tudor porn shop that sold Shakespeare’s latest play “gay boys in bondage”.

Ayone notice that in Terry Gilliam’s animated bit for Gay Boys in Bondage there’s an abvoius cut? A couple of nude photographic model cutouts a delivering Shakespearian lines, then suddenly one of them has apparently fallen down a hole. I wonder what was cut.

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**Author:** ![Nonsuch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nonsuch/32/2922_2.png) [@Nonsuch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nonsuch)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2005, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-python/301944/18 "2005-05-03T17:25:34Z")

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> [@guinnog](#):
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> I think you mean first shown on \*\*US \*\*network TV. I do not think it was censored on its origianl British showing.

No, but a reference to cancer was censored from a Terry Gilliam cartoon and replaced with “gangrene.” None of the Pythons had or have any idea why that was done.

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**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2005, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-python/301944/19 "2005-05-03T17:47:06Z")

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Because the completely incongruous male voice jumping in and saying “GANGRENE” was way funnier than the cancer reference could possibly have been?

I had no idea that wasn’t deliberate. I thought it was completely intentional and hilarious.

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**Author:** ![Nonsuch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nonsuch/32/2922_2.png) [@Nonsuch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nonsuch)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2005, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-python/301944/20 "2005-05-03T18:55:49Z")

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> [@Otto](#):
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> Because the completely incongruous male voice jumping in and saying “GANGRENE” was way funnier than the cancer reference could possibly have been?
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> I had no idea that wasn’t deliberate. I thought it was completely intentional and hilarious.

It was done against the Python’s wishes. The version included in _And Now for Something Completely Different_ (produced beyond the Beeb’s clutches) has the original “cancer” narration intact.

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