# Monty, you are a wretched LIAR!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-you-are-a-wretched-liar/203033>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 22, 2003, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-you-are-a-wretched-liar/203033 "2003-09-22T02:43:52Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Sheerdee\_Light](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sheerdee\_Light](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sheerdee_Light)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2003, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-you-are-a-wretched-liar/203033/221 "2003-09-24T01:22:15Z")

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Ryle Dup rightfully bows out:

I’m not going to bother with your attempts at refuting my previous arguements, because they still stand.

SDL: You have no arguments, Dup.

I never accused you of being a sock puppet, I explained what Mr.B meant when he said something you did not understand.

SDL: I completely understood where Mr. B was coming from, you simply chose to carry the flag.

I’ll retract my statement that you’re a loon simply because the other posters can and will argue with you, and I have no wishes to be bothered by you.

SDL: Nor, I, you.

Good day.

SDL: Yes, it truly is.

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**Author:** ![Sheerdee\_Light](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sheerdee\_Light](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sheerdee_Light)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2003, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-you-are-a-wretched-liar/203033/222 "2003-09-24T01:24:50Z")

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Er, uh…Rightly, smartly, wisely, bows out. All dressed up and no way to edit.

Sheerdee Light

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**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2003, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-you-are-a-wretched-liar/203033/223 "2003-09-24T01:26:06Z")

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> SPOOFE, someone argued elsewhere that it seemed “fair comment” (I paraphrase) to hold the The LDS Church itself responsible for its avowed intolerance of homosexuality, why bring both points up again as unfair “generalisations”?

Because Ambushed claimed that he DIDN’T make those generalizations, and said nothing on whether or not those generalizations are justified.

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**Author:** ![El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/41988e/32.png) [@El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Cid_Viscoso)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2003, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-you-are-a-wretched-liar/203033/224 "2003-09-24T02:02:59Z")

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> \*Originally posted by The Great Unwashed \*  
> \*\*Well, I don’t see where _this_ is going, at all. It might not be _exactly_ rude of you to conduct “insider” conversations, but it sure as hell is annoying. If you have information that is pertinent to this thread post it, don’t just hint at it.

\*\*I’m sorry, **The Great Unwashed** , I did not intend to be _inside_. I am simply acknowledging my understanding of the reason(s) **Monty** remains justifiably taciturn. Additionally, I will observe the wisdom of **yosemitebabe** and accept her contrition as indicative of our vitreous situation a la _Mod_.

**Sheerdee Light** , please keep right on chumming away, but at least try and learn how to use the “quote” tag when referring to someone else’s post. You are eminently unintelligible and it is masking your general lack of message. Or is that what you intend?

Oh, and a little housekeeping, bracketing added:

> [@](#):
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> _by Sheerdee Light_
> 
> I completely understood where Mr. B was coming from, you simply chose to carry the flag.
> 
> As a matter of fact, [yosemite]babe, I didn’t know what Mr. B was referring to thus, the question mark at the end of the sentence. Little squiggly thing, look for it.

**Sheerdee Light** , you are a liar.

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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2003, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-you-are-a-wretched-liar/203033/225 "2003-09-24T02:31:53Z")

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> \*Originally posted by ambushed \*  
> Ane yet another stupid gang-banger who has no respect whatsoever for the truth.
> 
> Sorry, but there’s no award for stupidity.

> [@](#):
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> \*Also originally posted by ambushed \*  
> What a fucking moron! Only an idiot would believe that the truth can be determined from a popularity poll! Sheesh!!
> 
> What a stupid, fallacy-loving twit you are!
> 
> Where are your FACTS? What a cretinous yahoo you are!!

A conversation with **Eros the Alien** from Plan 9 From Outer Space

> [@](#):
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> \*NOT posted by ambushed \*  
> Colonel Tom Edwards: Why is it so important that you want to contact the governments of our earth?  
> **Eros** : Because of death. Because all you of Earth are idiots!  
> Jeff Trent: Now you just hold on, Buster.  
> **Eros** : No, you hold on! First was your firecracker, a harmless explosive. Then your hand grenade: you began to kill your own people, a few at a time. Then the bomb. Then a larger bomb: many people are killed at one time. Then your scientists stumbled upon the atom bomb, split the atom. Then the hydrogen bomb, where you actually explode the air itself. Now you can arrange the total destruction of the entire universe served by our sun: The only explosion left is the Solaranite.  
> Colonel Tom Edwards: Why, there’s no such thing!
> 
> * * *
> 
> Colonel Tom Edwards: Why, a particle of sunlight can’t even be seen or measured.  
> **Eros** : Can you see or measure an atom? Yet you can explode one! A ray of sunlight is made up of many atoms.  
> Jeff Trent: So what if we do develop this Solaranite bomb? We’d be even a stronger nation than now.  
> **Eros** : “Stronger.” You see? You see? Your stupid minds! Stupid! Stupid!

This leaves us only one question.

**Eros** and **ambushed** : Seperated at birth?

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**Author:** ![Sheerdee\_Light](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sheerdee\_Light](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sheerdee_Light)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2003, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-you-are-a-wretched-liar/203033/226 "2003-09-24T03:36:24Z")

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Mr. B scribbles:

Oh, and a little housekeeping, bracketing added:

## quote:

by Sheerdee Light

I completely understood where Mr. B was coming from, you simply chose to carry the flag.

## As a matter of fact, [yosemite]babe, I didn’t know what Mr. B was referring to thus, the question mark at the end of the sentence. Little squiggly thing, look for it.

Sheerdee Light, you are a liar.

No, Mr. B, I simply lost track of the handles represented on this train wreck of a thread. The exchanges took place as follows:

Mr. B:  
Boy, ambushed just doesn’t give up…  
SDL:  
Mr. B posits: Boy, ambushed just doesn’t give up…

Mr. B, tell us, just exactly what was it that aroused you from your coma? There are no replies here from ambushed since last eve. To what are you referring?  
Yosemitebabe:  
Sheerdee Light, you are all innocence as to what Mr. B is talking about? Completely unaware of what he might be implying?

A little hard to swallow.  
SDL:  
As a matter of fact, babe, I didn’t know what Mr. B was referring to thus, the question mark at the end of the sentence. Little squiggly thing, look for it.  
Ryle Dup:  
Certain people(s) are suspiscious of you being a sock puppet. If this phrase is out of your vocabulary, it means that they believe that you are in fact, ambushed.

Evidence to support this being  
-Loony posting style  
-Constant accusations / name calling  
-Ignorance  
-The fact that you just registered now, and your first post is in the same thread.

I never accused you of being a sock puppet, I explained what Mr.B meant when he said something you did not understand.

(Stop right there, Mr. B. Just exactly where did Ryle Dup explain what you meant when you ‘said something I didn’t understand?’ The answer is never.)  
SDL:  
I completely understood where Mr. B was coming from, you simply chose to carry the flag.

(Stop again, Mr. B. there I referred to Ryle Dup’s explanation of the term “sock puppet” (the only explanation delivered) and attributed it to you, in error. I apologize for the handle transferrence however, the lame slander on this thread i.e, “sock puppet”, has yet to be addressed via moderator report. I may indeed, have lost track of which poster made the comment about “sock puppet”, but I’m no liar. Chalk it up to gang activity.)  
Do you find my posts unintelligible? You have to actually read them, B. I see you had no trouble extracting a portion of my comments. I’ll be glad to learn how to use the quote feature, until then, you’ll have to either put up with it or look the other way.

Sheerdee Light

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2003, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-you-are-a-wretched-liar/203033/227 "2003-09-24T03:52:47Z")

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Number one: I don’t think Sherdee’s a sock puppet. I’m sure it’s just another damn fool.

Number two: Quite interesting of you, Sherdee, to put up there that I said abuse never occurred. Here’s some entertainment for you: prove I said that.

Number three: I did argue the posts, not the poster, in the appropriate forum. Your comrade-in-asininity screwed up and did the reverse in the wrong forum.

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**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2003, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-you-are-a-wretched-liar/203033/228 "2003-09-24T04:14:00Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Do you find my posts unintelligible? You have to actually read them, B.

If you had been lurking for as long as you claim, you’d know how to use the Quote tags. See [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/misc.php?action=bbcode) in order to use VB codes.

See, your posts are “unintelligible” because your lack of post tags makes it very difficult to keep track of whom you are quoting, and what you, yourself, said. In other words, to read one of your posts, one must constantly be scrolling up and down, checking what the original poster wrote to differentiate it from your own words.

Of course, if you were here truly for the interests of Fighting Ignorance, you wouldn’t be feigning innocence in that regard.

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**Author:** ![Sheerdee\_Light](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sheerdee\_Light](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sheerdee_Light)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2003, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-you-are-a-wretched-liar/203033/229 "2003-09-24T04:27:02Z")

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SPOOFE,

You wrote: If you had been lurking for as long as you claim, you’d know how to use the Quote tags. See here in order to use VB codes.

Yes, lurking here not posting. How do you figure would I know how to use the Quote tags without having posted until a few days ago? Thanks for the link, I’ll give it a go.

Sheerdee Light

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**Author:** ![Sheerdee\_Light](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sheerdee\_Light](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sheerdee_Light)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2003, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-you-are-a-wretched-liar/203033/230 "2003-09-24T04:33:01Z")

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Monty, once again misevaluates what he “reads”:

“Quite interesting of you, Sherdee, to put up there that I said abuse never occurred. Here’s some entertainment for you: prove I said that.”

Monty, I didn’t quote you I characterized you. Before you make another false assertion like that, look for quotation marks, dear.  
Sheerdee Light

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**Author:** ![yosemite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/3ab097/32.png) [@yosemite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yosemite)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2003, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-you-are-a-wretched-liar/203033/231 "2003-09-24T04:43:09Z")

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_ **She Li** _ (my little nickname for SDL, since she or he seems fit to give me one) seems to be afflicted with the same ailment as ambushed: the inability to format or use the quote function properly. And really. It’s not that hard to learn to do it right.

(No, no implication of socks here. Just thought that was amusing.)

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**Author:** ![Sheerdee\_Light](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sheerdee\_Light](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sheerdee_Light)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2003, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-you-are-a-wretched-liar/203033/232 "2003-09-24T04:47:38Z")

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Yo babe,

```
 Still waiting for that moderator's report.

```

Sheerdee Light

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**Author:** ![yosemite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/3ab097/32.png) [@yosemite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yosemite)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2003, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-you-are-a-wretched-liar/203033/233 "2003-09-24T04:57:57Z")

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_ **She Li** _, don’t care what your “secret identity” is. Don’t know what it is. Don’t much care at all.

You, however, are apparently far too lame to figure out how to format your posts. I find that somewhat amusing, that’s all.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2003, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-you-are-a-wretched-liar/203033/234 "2003-09-24T05:13:22Z")

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Hey, bitch! You’re not fucking consistent with your freaking quotation marks.

And I’m certainly not the dear of any asshole like you.

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**Author:** ![El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/41988e/32.png) [@El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Cid_Viscoso)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2003, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-you-are-a-wretched-liar/203033/235 "2003-09-24T05:28:23Z")

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So there I was – I was reading and oh joy! **Sheerdee Light** replied to my post. My post!

Oh **Sheerdee** , now I’ve got to tell you, it was hard to comprehend, yes, but I am intrigued by your repartee! My goodness!

I immediately set about dutifully copying and pasting your post and formatting it so I could read it and understand every wonderful word, and so [here it is](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&postid=4023112&highlight=liar#post4023112).

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2003, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-you-are-a-wretched-liar/203033/236 "2003-09-24T05:33:38Z")

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I wonder what the current odds in Vegas are on the moderators deciding to never again use the term “playground” when describing any of the rules for this message board?

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**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2003, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-you-are-a-wretched-liar/203033/237 "2003-09-24T06:23:30Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Yes, lurking here not posting. How do you figure would I know how to use the Quote tags without having posted until a few days ago?

“Lurking” entails “reading the message board”. Forgive my doubt, but considering that quoting is used in almost every substantial thread here, you’d become curious about how people do that gosh-darn nifty quote-thing. It just helps keep things clear and easy to read. You DO want your posts to be informative, don’t you?

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2003, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-you-are-a-wretched-liar/203033/238 "2003-09-24T14:37:24Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Sheerdee Light \*  
> Monty, I didn’t quote you I characterized you. Before you make another false assertion like that, look for quotation marks, dear.

Dear Bitch:

Actually, you stunningly inane fool, you characterized what you pretend I did, not what I did nor what I actually am.

Sincerely,  
Monty  
Locale: State of Reality (“Wish you were here!”)

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**Author:** ![vanilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f19dbf/32.png) [@vanilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vanilla)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2003, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-you-are-a-wretched-liar/203033/239 "2003-09-24T14:48:03Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Monty \*  
> \*\*  
> Locale: State of Reality (“Wish you were here!”) \*\*

funny!

So.  
Whats the weather like were you guys are ?  
Here it is 73 and sunny.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2003, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-you-are-a-wretched-liar/203033/240 "2003-09-24T15:15:51Z")

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State of Reality: 53 F/Partly Cloudy/Visibility: quite far, unobscured.

Wherever SL is: Average 98 F/Clumps if foul matter/Visibility: obscured by colon wall.

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