# Monty, you are a wretched LIAR! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 22, 2003, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-you-are-a-wretched-liar/203033 "2003-09-22T02:43:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2003, 7:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-you-are-a-wretched-liar/203033/41 "2003-09-22T07:39:07Z")
You right. We’re all lying. We are all against you. It’s a vast conspiracy. Happy now? ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2003, 7:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-you-are-a-wretched-liar/203033/42 "2003-09-22T07:43:13Z")
It boggles the mind, doesn’t it, spooje? ---
**Author:** ![yosemite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/3ab097/32.png) [@yosemite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yosemite)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2003, 7:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-you-are-a-wretched-liar/203033/43 "2003-09-22T07:43:26Z")
_pssssssst_ spooje. DON’T LET ON. We don’t want him to know of the secret meetings we have to conspire to SPREAD LIES. He _can’t_ know!!! Anything but that! He’s getting **too close!!!** ---
**Author:** ![Badtz\_Maru](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e36b37/32.png) [@Badtz\_Maru](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Badtz_Maru)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2003, 7:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-you-are-a-wretched-liar/203033/44 "2003-09-22T07:44:37Z")
Looked over the posts as an impartial third-party. > [@](#): > > You falsely stated that the purpose of the temple recommend interview was for the purpose of gratification. …does not seem to accurately portray what you actually said, unless there is a part not getting quoted here that makes a difference. But you should have called him on that in his own thread. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2003, 7:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-you-are-a-wretched-liar/203033/45 "2003-09-22T07:46:21Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Monty \* > \*\*It boggles the mind, doesn’t it, spooje? \*\* It sure does. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/41988e/32.png) [@El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Cid_Viscoso)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2003, 7:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-you-are-a-wretched-liar/203033/46 "2003-09-22T07:46:43Z")
> [@](#): > > _Posted by ambushed, “quoting” Jodi_ > > perhaps you’re right that some people are ignoring the facts Whaaaaaaa? I tell you, I’ve read her post several times now, trying to figure out where she said that. You somehow have special post-distillation skills. My hat’s off to you. You may brand **Monty** a wretched liar, but by all current indications, you’re an obvious one. ---
**Author:** ![ambushed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3bc359/32.png) [@ambushed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ambushed)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2003, 7:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-you-are-a-wretched-liar/203033/47 "2003-09-22T07:47:09Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by spooje \* > \*\*You right. We’re all lying. > > We are all against you. It’s a vast conspiracy. > > Happy now? \*\* Thank you for once again demonstrating that you are a juvenile crank who hates truth and has utter contempt for the facts. I expected nothing more from you. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2003, 7:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-you-are-a-wretched-liar/203033/48 "2003-09-22T07:48:02Z")
Wait…let me try again. [sub]It sure does[/sub] ---
**Author:** ![ambushed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3bc359/32.png) [@ambushed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ambushed)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2003, 7:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-you-are-a-wretched-liar/203033/49 "2003-09-22T07:51:54Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Mr. B \* > **Whaaaaaaa? I tell you, I’ve read her post several times now, trying to figure out where she said that. You somehow have special post-distillation skills. My hat’s off to you.** I’m not at all surprised you suffer from a severe mental disability that prohibits you from being able to properly comphrehend what you read. > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Mr. B \* > \*\*You may brand **Monty** a wretched liar, but by all current indications, you’re an obvious one. \*\* Just more cheap, sophomoric bullshit. Prove exactly where I lied, and while you’re at it, prove that Monty _didn’t_ lie. It’s astonishing how much so many of you folks will fight so hard for blatant lies and ignornace while studiously avoiding the simple truth. You have my pity. ---
**Author:** ![ambushed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3bc359/32.png) [@ambushed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ambushed)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2003, 7:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-you-are-a-wretched-liar/203033/50 "2003-09-22T07:54:57Z")
**yosemitebabe** , you sad, deluded, vindictive, child-abuse defending wretch, you wouldn’t know the truth if it sat on you. And who’s playing font games now? ---
**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2003, 7:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-you-are-a-wretched-liar/203033/51 "2003-09-22T07:57:19Z")
**ambushed** , rather than continue down this path which will most likely lead to one of two ends (either “I’m leaving you all suck I’m taking my ball and going home!” or a more amusing meltdown), consider: Actually leave. Like, for a week or two. In that time all this will probably die down a bit and when you come back few will remember what happened here. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2003, 7:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-you-are-a-wretched-liar/203033/52 "2003-09-22T07:57:34Z")
[Ambushed!](http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame14.html) [sub]Lord, forgive me…[/sub] ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2003, 7:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-you-are-a-wretched-liar/203033/53 "2003-09-22T07:58:39Z")
**ambushed** , if I might ask you a question or two. You don’t have to answer, because it’s a personal question, but I am curious. Do you follow any particular religious faith, and if you do, what is it? ---
**Author:** ![yosemite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/3ab097/32.png) [@yosemite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yosemite)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2003, 7:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-you-are-a-wretched-liar/203033/54 "2003-09-22T07:59:04Z")
ambushed, not only are deluded and hysterical, you absolutely have **NO SENSE OF HUMOR.** But this thread sure is fun. All thanks to you, too. Keep it up. Of course, we are all a bunch of conspiring liars, so really, I don’t know why you bother trying to convince a whole message board (a board comprising of many diverse people from all over the planet) believe you. Because we’re a message board full of (wait for it) **LIARS**. We’re all out to get you. We have secret meetings, all conspiring to lie about you. We don’t deserve to have someone as enlightened and discerning as you in our midst. Best to go somewhere else where your truth-seeking brilliance will be better appreciated. ---
**Author:** ![ambushed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3bc359/32.png) [@ambushed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ambushed)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2003, 8:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-you-are-a-wretched-liar/203033/55 "2003-09-22T08:04:13Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Badtz Maru \* > **Looked over the posts as an impartial third-party. > …does not seem to accurately portray what you actually said, unless there is a part not getting quoted here that makes a difference.** Thank you, thank you! Until your post, I felt like Diogenes must have. And no, there’s no other part of what I wrote that makes a difference. > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Badtz Maru \* > **But you should have called him on that in his own thread.** I’ll gladly take that rap on the knuckles from _you_ because you respect the truth and aren’t lashing out against the truth like the others. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2003, 8:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-you-are-a-wretched-liar/203033/56 "2003-09-22T08:07:53Z")
BTW, **yosemitebabe** , is the secrect meeting at your house this week? ---
**Author:** ![ambushed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3bc359/32.png) [@ambushed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ambushed)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2003, 8:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-you-are-a-wretched-liar/203033/57 "2003-09-22T08:08:37Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by iampunha \* > \*\ ***ambushed** , rather than continue down this path which will most likely lead to one of two ends (either “I’m leaving you all suck I’m taking my ball and going home!” or a more amusing meltdown), consider: > > Actually leave. Like, for a week or two. In that time all this will probably die down a bit and when you come back few will remember what happened here. \*\* Why would I want to simply ignore all the vicious lies and vitriol that have been so dishonestly spewed at me? Why would I want people to forget that Monty and others lied over and over again and that most of the posters here clearly have utter contempt for the simple facts of the matter? I don’t care _how_ many hateful, lying posts are thrown against me. Eventually, some honest people will seek out the facts and learn that I was telling the truth and just about everyone else is deliberately ignoring the facts. ---
**Author:** ![yosemite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/3ab097/32.png) [@yosemite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yosemite)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2003, 8:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-you-are-a-wretched-liar/203033/58 "2003-09-22T08:11:01Z")
spooje: It’s up at the “safe house” near Descanso Gardens (in La Canada, near Glendale). See you there at the same time. Remember, the password is “artichoke.” ---
**Author:** ![ambushed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3bc359/32.png) [@ambushed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ambushed)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2003, 8:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-you-are-a-wretched-liar/203033/59 "2003-09-22T08:15:28Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Baker \* > \*\ ***ambushed** , if I might ask you a question or two. You don’t have to answer, because it’s a personal question, but I am curious. Do you follow any particular religious faith, and if you do, what is it? \*\* You’re right; those are very personal questions. However, I’ll gladly answer them if you can show me why it matters. The truth is the truth. I am _not_ engaged on some campaign against the LDS Church. The facts clearly reveal that to honest, careful readers. I criticize that which deserves criticism. In the case of religion, I’ve criticized the Roman Catholic Church for their hideously disgraceful child sexual abuse scandals and I’ve criticized the Catholics, Southern Baptists, and Mormons for their above-and-beyond political activism against homosexuals. The only reason the LDS Church came up is because the thread was about them and them alone. So there’s absolutely no grounds to claim bias, if that’s what you were going to suggest. ---
**Author:** ![ambushed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3bc359/32.png) [@ambushed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ambushed)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2003, 8:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-you-are-a-wretched-liar/203033/60 "2003-09-22T08:18:11Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by yosemitebabe \* > \*\*ambushed, not only are deluded and hysterical, you absolutely have **NO SENSE OF HUMOR.** > > But this thread sure is fun. All thanks to you, too. > > Keep it up. Of course, we are all a bunch of conspiring liars, so really, I don’t know why you bother trying to convince a whole message board (a board comprising of many diverse people from all over the planet) believe you. Because we’re a message board full of (wait for it) **LIARS**. > > We’re all out to get you. We have secret meetings, all conspiring to lie about you. We don’t deserve to have someone as enlightened and discerning as you in our midst. Best to go somewhere else where your truth-seeking brilliance will be better appreciated. \*\* This kind of stupid, wild-eyes, third-grader sap is exactly what I’ve come to expect from the likes of you. I really do pity you. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-you-are-a-wretched-liar/203033.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-you-are-a-wretched-liar/203033.md?page=4)