# Monty, you can kindly and publicly apologize to me in here. It’s a safe space.

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 12, 2019, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-you-can-kindly-and-publicly-apologize-to-me-in-here-it-s-a-safe-space/840107 "2019-09-12T15:50:27Z")\
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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2019, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-you-can-kindly-and-publicly-apologize-to-me-in-here-it-s-a-safe-space/840107/141 "2019-09-14T02:07:37Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> I don’t know where I can get a wild boar. Do you think I could use hot dogs as a substitute?

**Beck** and her hubby have been shooting them. I’m sure they can hook you up.

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2019, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-you-can-kindly-and-publicly-apologize-to-me-in-here-it-s-a-safe-space/840107/142 "2019-09-14T02:24:56Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> I don’t know where I can get a wild boar. Do you think I could use hot dogs as a substitute?

Well, you could always use the OP…

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2019, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-you-can-kindly-and-publicly-apologize-to-me-in-here-it-s-a-safe-space/840107/143 "2019-09-14T02:51:03Z")

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> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> > [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> > I don’t know where I can get a wild boar. Do you think I could use hot dogs as a substitute?
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> **Beck** and her hubby have been shooting them. I’m sure they can hook you up.

It strikes me as somewhat unsporting to be shooting hotdogs.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2019, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-you-can-kindly-and-publicly-apologize-to-me-in-here-it-s-a-safe-space/840107/144 "2019-09-14T02:58:48Z")

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> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> **Beck** and her hubby have been shooting them. I’m sure they can hook you up.

Let me know. I’ll get you a nice one.  
(A nice filthy feral hog, not a hotdog, You’ll have to see Gato about weenie dogs)

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**Author:** ![Annoyed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f04885/32.png) [@Annoyed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annoyed)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2019, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-you-can-kindly-and-publicly-apologize-to-me-in-here-it-s-a-safe-space/840107/145 "2019-09-14T04:40:27Z")

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> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#):
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> My bold. Nope, not verbatim because **RC** didn’t use quotation marks, as already pointed out to you. If you had to add them, then it’s no longer verbatim. Not sure how many different ways I can explain this.
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> This tediously disingenuous semantic horse hockey brought to you by tediously disingenuous semantic horse hockey.

Not verbatim? Disingenuous horse-hockey?

> [@](#):
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> in a way that uses exactly the same words as were originally used:

> **[verbatim](https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/verbatim)**
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> 1. in a way that uses exactly the same words as were originally used: 2. using…

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**Author:** ![Annoyed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f04885/32.png) [@Annoyed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annoyed)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2019, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-you-can-kindly-and-publicly-apologize-to-me-in-here-it-s-a-safe-space/840107/146 "2019-09-14T04:42:59Z")

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> [@BeepKillBeep](#):
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> Poor widdle socky. There there socky, it’ll be ok. I’m sure we can find you a safe place so you’re widdle snowflake self doesn’t melt.

Thanks. Make sure it’s warm, plentiful pillows, a crying area complete with tissues, and several virgins.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2019, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-you-can-kindly-and-publicly-apologize-to-me-in-here-it-s-a-safe-space/840107/147 "2019-09-14T05:47:41Z")

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> [@Annoyed](#):
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> Thanks. Make sure it’s warm, plentiful pillows, a crying area complete with tissues, and several virgins.

Why, so you can relive your days in the Boy Scouts?

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2019, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-you-can-kindly-and-publicly-apologize-to-me-in-here-it-s-a-safe-space/840107/148 "2019-09-14T06:27:49Z")

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> [@Annoyed](#):
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> Thanks. Make sure it’s warm, plentiful pillows, a crying area complete with tissues, and several virgins.

> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Why, so you can relive your days in the Boy Scouts?

No virgin would touch him.

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2019, 7:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-you-can-kindly-and-publicly-apologize-to-me-in-here-it-s-a-safe-space/840107/149 "2019-09-14T07:02:47Z")

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> [@Annoyed](#):
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> Not verbatim? Disingenuous horse-hockey?
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> [VERBATIM | English meaning - Cambridge Dictionary](https://dictionary.cambridge.org/amp/english/verbatim)

No-one’s calling its obviously known definition into question and it’s also not addressing the fact that you’ve altered the meaning of what you transcribed by adding quotes to the statement, immediately nullifying it as being verbatim. Any journalist who’d approach that otherwise would be crossing the line from honest reportage.

> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> I don’t know where I can get a wild boar.

Some convenience stores around here carry boar. Great garnished with hot club aspic (skittles in consomme gelatin in ghost pepper sauce).

I always thought prunes ruined a good boar.\*

\*ETA - hm, possible sig?

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**Author:** ![Annoyed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f04885/32.png) [@Annoyed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annoyed)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2019, 8:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-you-can-kindly-and-publicly-apologize-to-me-in-here-it-s-a-safe-space/840107/150 "2019-09-14T08:05:26Z")

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> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#):
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> No-one’s calling its obviously known definition into question and it’s also not addressing the fact that you’ve altered the meaning of what you transcribed by adding quotes to the statement, immediately nullifying it as being verbatim. Any journalist who’d approach that otherwise would be crossing the line from honest reportage.

I’ve altered the meaning by placing quotation marks around a single sentence in a 2 sentence post?

And reporters don’t do exactly that literally ALL the time?

That’s some _thick_ bullshit right there.

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2019, 8:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-you-can-kindly-and-publicly-apologize-to-me-in-here-it-s-a-safe-space/840107/151 "2019-09-14T08:17:00Z")

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> [@Annoyed](#):
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> I’ve altered the meaning by placing quotation marks around a single sentence in a 2 sentence post?

Sure, why not.

> [@Annoyed](#):
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> And reporters don’t do exactly that literally ALL the time

Um, dishonest ones? Care to cite any?

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2019, 8:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-you-can-kindly-and-publicly-apologize-to-me-in-here-it-s-a-safe-space/840107/152 "2019-09-14T08:31:19Z")

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> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#):
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> No-one’s calling its obviously known definition into question and it’s also not addressing the fact that you’ve altered the meaning of what you transcribed by adding quotes to the statement, immediately nullifying it as being verbatim. Any journalist who’d approach that otherwise would be crossing the line from honest reportage.

You’ve seen Annoyed’s first post, right? You can’t seriously believe he’s at all concerned about honest reportage.

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2019, 8:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-you-can-kindly-and-publicly-apologize-to-me-in-here-it-s-a-safe-space/840107/153 "2019-09-14T08:47:52Z")

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Nope. Anyhoos, nodding off.  
Out.

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**Author:** ![Annoyed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f04885/32.png) [@Annoyed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annoyed)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2019, 8:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-you-can-kindly-and-publicly-apologize-to-me-in-here-it-s-a-safe-space/840107/154 "2019-09-14T08:55:40Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> You’ve seen Annoyed’s first post, right? You can’t seriously believe he’s at all concerned about honest reportage.

You mean the one I placed in the pit because it’s circumstantial and so shots can be fired more freely?

What a horrible, dishonest character I have.

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**Author:** ![Annoyed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f04885/32.png) [@Annoyed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annoyed)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2019, 8:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-you-can-kindly-and-publicly-apologize-to-me-in-here-it-s-a-safe-space/840107/155 "2019-09-14T08:57:37Z")

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> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#):
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> Sure, why not.

Because it’s a pathetic cop-out for being intentionally wrong, and misrepresenting what someone said.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2019, 9:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-you-can-kindly-and-publicly-apologize-to-me-in-here-it-s-a-safe-space/840107/156 "2019-09-14T09:04:21Z")

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> [@Annoyed](#):
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> What a horrible, dishonest character I have.

Well… yes.

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**Author:** ![Annoyed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f04885/32.png) [@Annoyed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annoyed)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2019, 9:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-you-can-kindly-and-publicly-apologize-to-me-in-here-it-s-a-safe-space/840107/157 "2019-09-14T09:28:03Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Well… yes.

Clever.

No one, in the history of forums, has ever thought to snip another users post in such a way as to remove contextual sarcasm in an attempt to be amusing - until you came along.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2019, 9:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-you-can-kindly-and-publicly-apologize-to-me-in-here-it-s-a-safe-space/840107/158 "2019-09-14T09:39:36Z")

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> [@Annoyed](#):
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> Clever.
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> No one, in the history of forums, has ever thought to snip another users post in such a way as to remove contextual sarcasm in an attempt to be amusing - until you came along.

The second sentence in your post stands on its own. The first sentence didn’t provide context, just irrelevance.

And I don’t believe you care about honest reportage.

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2019, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-you-can-kindly-and-publicly-apologize-to-me-in-here-it-s-a-safe-space/840107/159 "2019-09-14T16:13:39Z")

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> [@Annoyed](#):
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> Because it’s a pathetic cop-out for being intentionally wrong, and misrepresenting what someone said.

Hmm…how about - would it work if I re-quoted Gyrate’s post for you in hopes it will finally register with you?

> [@Gyrate](#):
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> Except that **running coach** didn’t use quotation marks in his statement (remember quotation marks? You thought they were important earlier) - that was your addition, a deliberate misrepresentation on your part so that you could claim victory on the basis that Trump didn’t use those exact words. In fact **running coach** ’s original paraphrase was entirely accurate in context; it’s you that’s persisting in this - what’s the term? - “intended deception” that it wasn’t.
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> But thank you for your ongoing demonstration of your dishonesty, liar.

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2019, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/monty-you-can-kindly-and-publicly-apologize-to-me-in-here-it-s-a-safe-space/840107/160 "2019-09-15T02:30:48Z")

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> [@BeepKillBeep](#):
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> Poor widdle socky. There there socky, it’ll be ok. I’m sure we can find you a safe place so you’re widdle snowflake self doesn’t melt.

That’s a good one! This is so much fun.

And speaking of wild boars, there was a papal bull issued back in the early 1500’s by Leo X I believe, titled **“Exsurge Domine”** \* Arise Oh Lord and plead Thy cause, a wild boar has entered thy vineyard."\* (It was against Martin Luther, btw)

I don’t acquaint the OP with Luther, but when it comes to bores, I mean boars…

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