# Moon Mystery **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [June 12, 2007, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moon-mystery/407663 "2007-06-12T03:50:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 10:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moon-mystery/407663/21 "2007-06-12T10:05:53Z")
Obviously nobody went to the Moon, because it’s a long way and there are no refuelling stations. :rolleyes: More importantly, the $20 billion was spent on bribing people to play along. An astronomer (Phil Plait for example) gets more than me - which is fair. I just enter threads like this and poke fun - it’s a living. 🆒 Eventually some auditor will blow the whole thing open, but I’ve been paid for 35 years now, so what do I care? ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 10:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moon-mystery/407663/22 "2007-06-12T10:56:54Z")
as **Valgard** points out, the Russians did send missions to the moon, but they were unmanned. And more than two. From his provided link you can also get to the entry on the **Luna** missions, which actually took and returned lunar samples to the Earth: > **[Luna programme](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luna_program)** > > The Luna programme (from the Russian word Луна "Luna" meaning "Moon"), occasionally called Lunik by western media, was a series of robotic spacecraft missions sent to the Moon by the Soviet Union between 1959 and 1976. 29 were failures and 15 were successful, each designed as either an orbiter or lander, and accomplished many firsts in space exploration. They also performed many experiments, studying the Moon's chemical composition, gravity, temperature, and radiation. > Twenty-four spacecraft ... I was floored many years ago when I saw an exhibit of Soviet lunar craft at a Museum after the fall of the Soviet Union. I had no idea they had landed robotic craft on the Moon, let alone brought back moon rocks. I don’t recall heariung or readinmg about them at the time, or later. Even now there see,ms to be little public awareness of these efforts. As this thread indicates. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moon-mystery/407663/23 "2007-06-12T12:08:12Z")
[QUOTE=CJOK] Don`t throw that laser transponder at me as proof they landfd. They could quite easily have been placed remotely. [/QUOTE] Do you have any evidence this occured? ---
**Author:** ![postcards](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8e8cbc/32.png) [@postcards](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/postcards)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moon-mystery/407663/24 "2007-06-12T13:34:35Z")
[QUOTE=Mosier] Im sorry CJOK, but do you realize how ridiculous your point sounds? You’re implying that the moon landing was faked… [/QUOTE] I’m sorry, but I’ve read through this thread three times. Exactly where does the OP ever assert this? ---
**Author:** ![groman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/73ab20/32.png) [@groman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/groman)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moon-mystery/407663/25 "2007-06-12T13:41:10Z")
[QUOTE=postcards] Exactly where does the OP ever assert this? [/QUOTE] Not to be snarky, but imply (v) 1. to indicate or suggest without being explicitly stated assert (v) 1. to state with assurance, confidence, or force; state strongly or positively; ---
**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moon-mystery/407663/26 "2007-06-12T13:43:14Z")
[QUOTE=CJOK] I`ll let you have a think about it and come back in a bit. [/QUOTE] OK, I thought about it, but did you? Actually, I think the who moon thing is faked. There really isn’t a moon, and tides are really just laundy detergents. ---
**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moon-mystery/407663/27 "2007-06-12T13:45:48Z")
[QUOTE=TokyoPlayer] OK, I thought about it, but did you? Actually, I think the who moon thing is faked. There really isn’t a moon, and tides are really just laundy detergents. [/QUOTE] Are you saying that Pete Townsend and Roger Daltry didn’t land on the moon? ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moon-mystery/407663/28 "2007-06-12T13:48:32Z")
[QUOTE=CJOK] Don`t throw that laser transponder at me… [/QUOTE] Oddly, that’s exactly what I’d like to do. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moon-mystery/407663/29 "2007-06-12T13:51:39Z")
To answer the OP: They’re all a little busy, what with the Eugenics Wars and all. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moon-mystery/407663/30 "2007-06-12T14:12:14Z")
All right, I’ll give you the Apollo moon landings, but I’m still not convinced we ever _actually_ landed men on Mars: [Capricorn One - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capricorn_One) ---
**Author:** ![Harmonious\_Discord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/74df32/32.png) [@Harmonious\_Discord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harmonious_Discord)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moon-mystery/407663/31 "2007-06-12T14:12:27Z")
[QUOTE=NoClueBoy] To answer the OP: They’re all a little busy, what with the Eugenics Wars and all. [/QUOTE] Reference to this? [Stalin and his apemen breeding program.](http://news.scotsman.com/international.cfm?id=2434192005) ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moon-mystery/407663/32 "2007-06-12T14:21:59Z")
[QUOTE=NoClueBoy] They’re all a little busy, what with the Eugenics Wars and all. [/QUOTE] That’s EXACTLY why I don’t trust the media! I thought I was quite aware of what was going on in the 90s but did I see a SINGLE story about the Eugenics Wars? That should’ve been front-page news! The same thing happened when the Robinsons’ colonizing spacecraft was launched in 1997. Important science news, no? But the media couldn’t stop talking about Monica Lewinsky long enough to cover it and now the Robinsons have fallen off the radar so far they could be lost in space, for all we know. Shameful. Just shameful. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moon-mystery/407663/33 "2007-06-12T14:25:21Z")
> [@](#): > > …and now the Robinsons have fallen off the radar so far they could be lost in space, for all we know. Just as well, all things considered. I’m annoyed that they didn’t cover HAL’s birthday at the Computer Museum in Boston (really – I had to tell them about it). The REAL birthday – the one in the book. (By the time the one in the movie rolled around, there was no more Computer Museum anymore.) ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moon-mystery/407663/34 "2007-06-12T14:31:38Z")
[QUOTE=CalMeacham] Just as well, all things considered. [/QUOTE] I respectfully disagree. Penny was hot and is sorely missed. Judy was physically attractive but such a mental and personal blank that it would be like necrophillia. Not that you could think any negative thoughts about her, though, since her little brother would put you in the cornfield just as soon as look at you. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moon-mystery/407663/35 "2007-06-12T14:33:04Z")
[QUOTE=CJOK] What do you think? [/QUOTE] Quit dancing around your subject and give us your real question (and/or agenda). And for the record, if this is a stupid “we never landed on the moon” thread, before you waste our time with the same old bullshit arguments, please read, in their entirety, the previous discussions we’ve had on the topic. Links will be provided on request. Bottom line, if you’re going to try to assert the “Apollo hoax” point of view, at least do us the courtesy of coming up with some new arguments. If this is not an “Apollo hoax” thread, then stop being coy and tell us what it’s about. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moon-mystery/407663/36 "2007-06-12T14:53:06Z")
[QUOTE=CalMeacham] I’m annoyed that they didn’t cover HAL’s birthday at the Computer Museum in Boston (really – I had to tell them about it). [/QUOTE] I called the mayor’s office in Urbana. You’d think a parade would be called for, but no. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moon-mystery/407663/37 "2007-06-12T15:11:52Z")
The moon people do not like Russians. They denied them Visas. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moon-mystery/407663/38 "2007-06-12T15:41:43Z")
In Soviet Union, Moon lands on _you!_ ---
**Author:** ![Shamozzle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shamozzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shamozzle)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moon-mystery/407663/39 "2007-06-12T15:53:25Z")
**CJOK** , do a search, there’s more than enough yes/no moon landing debate on the SDMB to keep you busy for a while… ---
**Author:** ![Snickers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@Snickers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snickers)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moon-mystery/407663/40 "2007-06-12T16:24:35Z")
[QUOTE=CalMeacham] as **Valgard** points out, the Russians did send missions to the moon, but they were unmanned. And more than two. From his provided link you can also get to the entry on the **Luna** missions, which actually took and returned lunar samples to the Earth: > **[Luna programme](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luna_program)** > > The Luna programme (from the Russian word Луна "Luna" meaning "Moon"), sometimes called Lunik by western media, was a series of robotic spacecraft missions sent to the Moon by the Soviet Union between 1959 and 1976. The programme accomplished many firsts in space exploration, including first flyby of the Moon, first impact of the Moon and first photos of the far side of the Moon. Each mission was designed as either an orbiter or lander. They also performed many experiments, studying the Moon' I was floored many years ago when I saw an exhibit of Soviet lunar craft at a Museum after the fall of the Soviet Union. I had no idea they had landed robotic craft on the Moon, let alone brought back moon rocks. I don’t recall heariung or readinmg about them at the time, or later. Even now there see,ms to be little public awareness of these efforts. As this thread indicates. [/QUOTE] What’s seriously cool is that the Russians, AFAIK, are the only ones to have ever landed several probes on Venus. Think about that - Venus! How awesome is that? A bunch of the little probes sent back pictures of the surface and have taken sample before they melted. Most have lasted about an hour. I find this beyond fascinating. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moon-mystery/407663.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moon-mystery/407663.md?page=3)