# Moon Mystery **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [June 12, 2007, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moon-mystery/407663 "2007-06-12T03:50:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![CJOK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e36b37/32.png) [@CJOK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CJOK)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moon-mystery/407663/61 "2007-06-12T21:47:12Z")
[QUOTE=Chronos] Sorry if we came across a bit strong… This is all probably new to you, but we’ve gone over it many times (as you can see from the links). It gets a bit tiresome after a while. As for the latter part of your comment, about pissing on the stars and stripes, folks here have said far stronger things than that… But they’ve said them in Great Debates or the BBQ Pit. GQ probably isn’t the place for political statements of that sort. [/QUOTE] That was not a political statement, it was a personal statement designed to get a rise out of you, and apparently it worked. As for the Norwegian chappy who does not like flags, as you can see , i too have little respect for them. Finally, as for the ignorance suggestion, i have probably read more ACTUAL BOOKS than every one on this post put together. Ball-in-your-court. ---
**Author:** ![CJOK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e36b37/32.png) [@CJOK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CJOK)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moon-mystery/407663/62 "2007-06-12T21:49:09Z")
Eeh! i`m a feisty fella! ---
**Author:** ![CJOK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e36b37/32.png) [@CJOK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CJOK)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moon-mystery/407663/63 "2007-06-12T21:51:05Z")
[QUOTE=toadspittle] Best typo of the week. [/QUOTE] Yes, i spotted that. If he meant it , it was almost funny! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Duke\_of\_Rat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Duke\_of\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke_of_Rat)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moon-mystery/407663/64 "2007-06-12T21:54:26Z")
[QUOTE=CJOK] Finally, as for the ignorance suggestion, i have probably read more ACTUAL BOOKS than every one on this post put together. Ball-in-your-court. [/QUOTE] You haven’t been here long enough to know how many books some of these people have read, but I’ve read your threads, and I’ve read their posts (in many threads) and I’ll say you are up against some heavy hitters in this thread alone. P.S. All of them aren’t yanks 😉 ---
**Author:** ![CJOK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e36b37/32.png) [@CJOK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CJOK)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moon-mystery/407663/65 "2007-06-12T22:02:48Z")
[QUOTE=Duke of Rat] You haven’t been here long enough to know how many books some of these people have read, but I’ve read your threads, and I’ve read their posts (in many threads) and I’ll say you are up against some heavy hitters in this thread alone. P.S. All of them aren’t yanks 😉 [/QUOTE] Go on then i`ll let them count e-books. Do you want to list yours first and i`ll tell you which ones i`ve read. Then i`ll do the same .At least SOME of your “fellow-threaders” are to say the least , very presumptious with thier remarks, so i`m not entirely convinced of your integrity. ---
**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moon-mystery/407663/66 "2007-06-12T22:04:47Z")
[QUOTE=CJOK] Finally, as for the ignorance suggestion, i have probably read more ACTUAL BOOKS than every one on this post put together. Ball-in-your-court. [/QUOTE] Well here’s an [index](http://www.tuftin.net/~bjornar/Bjornar/forf.html) of 289 of the authors I’ve read books by, with links to lists of the books themselves, I think it’s about 1200, you can start by beating that, and then we’ll see how many of the other posters need to add their counts. ---
**Author:** ![CJOK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e36b37/32.png) [@CJOK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CJOK)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moon-mystery/407663/67 "2007-06-12T22:05:11Z")
in case you had n`t noticed i am a bit of a newbie so No, i hav n`t read all your previous threads yet, but i`ll get round to it . I LIKE READING! ---
**Author:** ![CJOK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e36b37/32.png) [@CJOK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CJOK)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moon-mystery/407663/68 "2007-06-12T22:08:26Z")
[QUOTE=naita] Well here’s an [index](http://www.tuftin.net/~bjornar/Bjornar/forf.html) of 289 of the authors I’ve read books by, with links to lists of the books themselves, I think it’s about 1200, you can start by beating that, and then we’ll see how many of the other posters need to add their counts. [/QUOTE] Let me get back to you. They are all in ENGLISH are n`t they? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![CJOK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e36b37/32.png) [@CJOK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CJOK)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moon-mystery/407663/69 "2007-06-12T22:21:13Z")
I`ve just had a brief glance sir, there was only 289 authors after all, and apart from the Nordic authors and a few of the others, i`m familiar with most of them authors and at least one of thier works. I can`t prove it because i do n`t keep lists like you. But let me give you an idea what you are up against. During my mis$pent youth, i was once a guest in one of her Maj`s hostels for 3 mth. In that time , i read EVERYTHING that was worth reading in that place and it was not a poorly stocked library. It`s a shame i never kept my library ticket , because i could have put this whole debate to bed then! ---
**Author:** ![CJOK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e36b37/32.png) [@CJOK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CJOK)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moon-mystery/407663/70 "2007-06-12T22:23:06Z")
By the way . Some interesting choices on your list! ---
**Author:** ![CJOK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e36b37/32.png) [@CJOK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CJOK)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moon-mystery/407663/71 "2007-06-12T22:25:14Z")
Lesson number one :Do not make assumptions! ---
**Author:** ![Indistinguishable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/90ced4/32.png) [@Indistinguishable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indistinguishable)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moon-mystery/407663/72 "2007-06-12T22:29:09Z")
[QUOTE=CJOK] YOU GUY`S REALLY ARE GOOD! Sorry about the bad net-iquete, and shouting, but it really does deserve to be heard. You have given me some very entertaining and informative pieces to ponder. The thing is, I decided that if you yanks really had faked it, the KGB would have moved mountains to disclose that sort of a cover-up! UNLESS THEY ARE IN ON IT TOO? SHIT! [/QUOTE] Are you serious? What motivation would the Russians have had to cooperate with such a hoax? ---
**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moon-mystery/407663/73 "2007-06-12T22:30:22Z")
[QUOTE=CJOK] That was not a political statement, it was a personal statement designed to get a rise out of you, and apparently it worked. As for the Norwegian chappy who does not like flags, as you can see , i too have little respect for them. Finally, as for the ignorance suggestion, i have probably read more ACTUAL BOOKS than every one on this post put together. Ball-in-your-court. [/QUOTE] I would be careful about posting ‘just to get a rise out of people’. :smack: This is a well-informed board, where a poster can learn a lot. Nevertheless, we we get regular visits from people who claim ‘the moon landings were a hoax’ / ‘there’s no evidence for evolution’ / ‘I can prove God exists’. When confronted with facts, they usually go away again. But each one seems to think they are making an original contribution. :rolleyes: I’ve read about 1000 books on chess alone. I also enjoy science fiction and detective stories (I’ve read every Agatha Christie, Rex Stout, Ed McBain’s 87th Precinct, Dick Francis, “Spencer” and “Sherlock Holmes” story for example). What is the basis for your claim? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![CJOK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e36b37/32.png) [@CJOK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CJOK)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moon-mystery/407663/74 "2007-06-12T22:30:47Z")
[QUOTE=Indistinguishable] Are you serious? What motivation would the Russians have had to cooperate with such a hoax? [/QUOTE] LITTLE GREY MEN! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![CJOK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e36b37/32.png) [@CJOK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CJOK)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moon-mystery/407663/75 "2007-06-12T22:32:55Z")
[QUOTE=glee] I would be careful about posting ‘just to get a rise out of people’. :smack: This is a well-informed board, where a poster can learn a lot. Nevertheless, we we get regular visits from people who claim ‘the moon landings were a hoax’ / ‘there’s no evidence for evolution’ / ‘I can prove God exists’. When confronted with facts, they usually go away again. But each one seems to think they are making an original contribution. :rolleyes: I’ve read about 1000 books on chess alone. I also enjoy science fiction and detective stories (I’ve read every Agatha Christie, Rex Stout, Ed McBain’s 87th Precinct, Dick Francis, “Spencer” and “Sherlock Holmes” story for example). What is the basis for your claim? 😕 [/QUOTE] Which claim, I was having so much fun, i `ve forgot what we were arguing about. ---
**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moon-mystery/407663/76 "2007-06-12T22:33:52Z")
[QUOTE=CJOK] I`ve just had a brief glance sir, there was only 289 authors after all, and apart from the Nordic authors and a few of the others, i`m familiar with most of them authors and at least one of thier works. I can`t prove it because i do n`t keep lists like you. But let me give you an idea what you are up against. During my mis$pent youth, i was once a guest in one of her Maj`s hostels for 3 mth. In that time , i read EVERYTHING that was worth reading in that place and it was not a poorly stocked library. It`s a shame i never kept my library ticket , because i could have put this whole debate to bed then! [/QUOTE] 3 months? 😃 Apart from the authors already mentioned, our school library has 40,000 books. I’ve been reading them for 17 years. They have a computerised record of every book I’ve ever taken out, so the burden of proof is still on you. ---
**Author:** ![CJOK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e36b37/32.png) [@CJOK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CJOK)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moon-mystery/407663/77 "2007-06-12T22:35:47Z")
p.s Ed McBain is a brilliant author, and Steve Carella one of my fav. characters. ---
**Author:** ![Indistinguishable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/90ced4/32.png) [@Indistinguishable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indistinguishable)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moon-mystery/407663/78 "2007-06-12T22:36:55Z")
[QUOTE=CJOK] Finally, as for the ignorance suggestion, i have probably read more ACTUAL BOOKS than every one on this post put together. Ball-in-your-court. [/QUOTE] Well, that’s a bit arrogantly presumptuous, isn’t it? What on Earth makes you think you have any idea how many books any of us have read, to the extend that you can feel confident enough to make as condescending a statement as this? (At any rate, there’s no need to turn this thread into a literacy pissing contest. Maybe you have read a lot of books; I don’t know. But your claims about the moon landing live or die on their own merits.) ---
**Author:** ![CJOK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e36b37/32.png) [@CJOK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CJOK)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moon-mystery/407663/79 "2007-06-12T22:41:51Z")
[QUOTE=glee] 3 months? 😃 Apart from the authors already mentioned, our school library has 40,000 books. I’ve been reading them for 17 years. They have a computerised record of every book I’ve ever taken out, so the burden of proof is still on you. [/QUOTE] If you know anyone in the F.B.I you could get them to hack the Greater Manchester library records and then we`d see who has the best hand. Here`s another little tidbit. By the time Iwas 7 , I had read every book in the school. Now that could be verifiable, but I do n`t think Peter and Jane books are gonna count here. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Duke\_of\_Rat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Duke\_of\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke_of_Rat)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moon-mystery/407663/80 "2007-06-12T22:42:12Z")
[QUOTE=CJOK] Go on then i`ll let them count e-books. Do you want to list yours first and i`ll tell you which ones i`ve read. Then i`ll do the same .At least SOME of your “fellow-threaders” are to say the least , very presumptious with thier remarks, so i`m not entirely convinced of your integrity. [/QUOTE] I didn’t say I’ve read a lot of books, that was presumption on your part. I don’t know what that has to do with my integrity, I was only making an observation based on the posts you have started versus the posts I’ve seen by some of the posters in this thread. I don’t think everybody is going to post a list of every book they’ve read in an attempt to appease you or prove their competence. I could read every Buck Rogers book on the planet and it wouldn’t make me able to do the calculations for placing things in various orbits (hint, some of the posters in this thread can do those computations). Trust me, these are not a bunch of flag waiving yanks out to defend the honor of some moon landings, these are people who respect science and knowledge. If the moon landings could be proved a hoax, the other posters in this thread would exert themselves just as hard to prove that. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moon-mystery/407663.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moon-mystery/407663.md?page=5)