# moonshot925 **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 15, 2012, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moonshot925/634747 "2012-09-15T00:27:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2012, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moonshot925/634747/41 "2012-09-15T20:28:50Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > I wasn’t defending ‘a creationist’. Yes you were. You were stating that _other than the creationism, boy howdy, this guy is smart!_ > [@](#): > > I was defending an article on economics having nothing to do with creationism. You were defending an article made by someone so delusional they think that dinosaur bones sunk in the world-wide flood. > [@](#): > > You’re unhinged. I possess the normal degree of articulation for a man of my age and physical condition. > [@](#): > > You’re blinded by hatred and life in an echo chamber. I don’t hate anyone on this board… well maybe Bricker, because at least he’s smart enough to know better. I think you’re a complete dipshit, but I don’t hate you. I hate what you do, since you specialize in lying about economics in order to fool people to your side, but you, you’re peachy. > [@](#): > > I’d feel sorry for you if you weren’t so annoying. I’m annoying because you know, deep down, that you’re full of shit. And I point that out. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2012, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moonshot925/634747/42 "2012-09-15T20:29:17Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Says the guy who still believes in Iraqi WMD’s. Says the guy who claimed the “9/11 perps were safely based in Montreal.” It’s been almost four months since I referenced that. I figure I can do so now with little fear of being reasonably considered obsessed, or anything. ---
**Author:** ![al27052](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/41988e/32.png) [@al27052](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/al27052)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2012, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moonshot925/634747/43 "2012-09-15T20:39:29Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > I wasn’t defending ‘a creationist’. I was defending an article on economics having nothing to do with creationism. > > You’re unhinged. You’re blinded by hatred and life in an echo chamber. I’d feel sorry for you if you weren’t so annoying. Bitch, you are the proverbial pot calling the proverbial kettle black. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2012, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moonshot925/634747/44 "2012-09-15T20:40:34Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > Yes you were. You were stating that _other than the creationism, boy howdy, this guy is smart!_ > > You were defending an article made by someone so delusional they think that dinosaur bones sunk in the world-wide flood. Dude, I didn’t even know he was a creationist. Attacking him (or me) based on that is nothing but an ad-hominem attack. People believe plenty of crazy things while still being completely coherent in another area. Newton was a creationist and a believer in alchemy. Many famous physicists were devout Christians. A lot of famous writers were Marxists, which is even harder to justify than creationism. > [@](#): > > I possess the normal degree of articulation for a man of my age and physical condition. Not in the brain pan you don’t. > [@](#): > > I’m annoying because you know, deep down, that you’re full of shit. And I point that out. No, you’re annoying in the same way that the fly that’s currently buzzing around my face is annoying. You’re noise, and little else. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2012, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moonshot925/634747/45 "2012-09-15T21:00:13Z")
Supporting him in light of his creationism should be less embarrassing than putting forward that lurid jerk-off of a piece of shit manifesto and saying how much it represented your point of view, Sam. Much, much less embarrassing. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2012, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moonshot925/634747/46 "2012-09-15T23:12:21Z")
Hey, if he prefers internet porn about politico-economic ideologuism to internet porn about sex, who are we to object? Whatever floats his boat, ya know. But \*bragging \*about one’s internet porn habits? Now _that’s_ a twisted plea for help. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2012, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moonshot925/634747/47 "2012-09-15T23:22:43Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > Oh man, the irony in this is just too much to bear. Excuse me while I go have a laughing fit. I know you are, but what am I(?) Honestly, I have no idea what you’re going on about. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2012, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moonshot925/634747/48 "2012-09-16T00:38:12Z")
Sam!! I don’t recall seeing you in the pit before. I thought the deal was that you would do the well-thought-out GD posts and I would get my yucks and tweak the squares in the pit. I guess we should discuss further at the next Righties of the SDMB meeting. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2012, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moonshot925/634747/49 "2012-09-16T00:42:01Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Sam!! I don’t recall seeing you in the pit before. I thought the deal was that you would do the well-thought-out GD posts and I would get my yucks and tweak the squares in the pit. I guess we should discuss further at the next Righties of the SDMB meeting. When were you guys gonna start that? ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2012, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moonshot925/634747/50 "2012-09-16T00:47:17Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Sam!! I don’t recall seeing you in the pit before. I thought the deal was that you would do the well-thought-out GD posts and I would get my yucks and tweak the squares in the pit. I guess we should discuss further at the next Righties of the SDMB meeting. Nah, looking at that love letter to capitalism from a creationist, (the creationist bit was the least of the problems, it was indeed like reading a masturbating screed) “well thought out post” is not what comes to mind, and then looking at yet once again at Sam’s latest 100% bullshit denialist point in the middle of a mildly good post of his on the latest global warming thread, makes me believe that he does not care that he is still being had by the rotten sources that he relies on. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2012, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moonshot925/634747/51 "2012-09-16T00:49:56Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > When were you guys gonna start that? Please. An argument between Sam Stone and you is like a tug of war between a Saturn V rocket and BigTard’s sex life. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2012, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moonshot925/634747/52 "2012-09-16T00:51:01Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > Nah, looking at that love letter to capitalism from a creationist, (the creationist bit was the least of the problems, it was indeed like reading a masturbating screed) “well thought out post” is not what comes to mind, and then looking at yet once again at Sam’s latest 100% bullshit denialist point in the middle of a mildly good post of his on the latest global warming thread, makes me believe that he does not care that **he is still being had by the rotten sources that he relies on**. Ah yes. “I post links therefore I am.” Keep fucking that chicken, gaggo. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2012, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moonshot925/634747/53 "2012-09-16T00:52:12Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Please. An argument between Sam Stone and you is like a tug of war between a Saturn V rocket and BigTard’s sex life. Please, I already know that science is an optional thing for you when deciding who are the sources that are telling the truth. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2012, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moonshot925/634747/54 "2012-09-16T00:54:27Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Please. An argument between Sam Stone and you is like a tug of war between a Saturn V rocket and BigTard’s sex life. How surprising of you to admit it. I don’t like to drag him too far though, he’s obviously a timid, glass-unicorn of a man. I don’t think he has much more than his bullshit beliefs. Speaking of, how you doin’? Been busy getting ready for Romney’s “tax plan”. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2012, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moonshot925/634747/55 "2012-09-16T00:55:00Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Ah yes. “I post links therefore I am.” Keep fucking that chicken, gaggo. I looked again, you are still 100% wrong regarding the science behind the global warming issue. Point being that you are really stupind if you think that is my motto, the closest real thing I do is “I post links to the science, and one can identify the cowards that do not want to deal with it in an instant.” ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2012, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moonshot925/634747/56 "2012-09-16T00:58:46Z")
You “looked again”? What did you look at again? And you and I have done way too many rounds on your favorite dick-stroker of a subject, so no need for that again. I’ve been very clear that I’m all about following the science here and not the politics. You have been clear that you are 100% in line with the politics and hare happy to cite the science that supports your political position. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2012, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moonshot925/634747/57 "2012-09-16T01:11:12Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > You “looked again”? What did you look at again? Science, but as mentioned, you do not bother to check it. > **[Arguments from Global Warming Skeptics and what the science really says](https://skepticalscience.com/argument.php)** > > Examines the science and arguments of global warming skepticism. Common objections like 'global warming is caused by the sun', 'temperature has changed naturally in the past' or 'other planets are warming too' are examined to see what the science... > [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > And you and I have done way too many rounds on your favorite dick-stroker of a subject, so no need for that again. I’ve been very clear that I’m all about following the science here and not the politics. You have been clear that you are 100% in line with the politics and hare happy to cite the science that supports your political position. So then follow the science, and make sure to understand that virtually all republicans are nowadays deniers of the science, they are the ones that politicized that issue. [http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2012/03/09/441515/inhofe-god-says-global-warming-is-a-hoax/](http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2012/03/09/441515/inhofe-god-says-global-warming-is-a-hoax/) > [@](#): > > In a radio interview with Voice of Christian Youth America, Sen. James Inhofe (R-OK) argued that his belief that global warming is a hoax is biblically inspired. Promoting his book The Greatest Hoax: How the Global Warming Conspiracy Threatens Your Future, Inhofe told interviewer Vic Eliason on Wednesday that only God can change the climate, and the idea that manmade pollution could affect the seasons is “arrogance“: > > > [@](#): > > > > ``` > > Well actually the Genesis 8:22 that I use in there is that “as long as the earth remains there will be springtime and harvest, cold and heat, winter and summer, day and night.” My point is, God’s still up there. The arrogance of people to think that we, human beings, would be able to change what He is doing in the climate is to me outrageous. > > > > ``` BTW Inhofe is also a creationist, as the other thread showed, gullibility in one very important scientific issue usually shows a blobiator on the internet or in a magazine that is also wrong in other subjects. > **[Greenhouse Bananas: Non-Science Smear Campaigns](https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/greenhouse-bananas/)** > > Two men tout stuff you didn't learn in school, if you went to a good school ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2012, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moonshot925/634747/58 "2012-09-16T02:06:12Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Please. An argument between Sam Stone and you is like a tug of war between a Saturn V rocket and BigTard’s sex life. That analogy is as tortured as your wife on “Sex with the Lights On Night.” ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2012, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moonshot925/634747/59 "2012-09-16T02:24:02Z")
“…to Shelbyville to watch them launch a Saturn V. I wore an onion in my belt, which was the fashion…” ---
**Author:** ![Sinaptics](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Sinaptics](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sinaptics)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2012, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moonshot925/634747/60 "2012-09-16T14:37:53Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > Sure, and if you’re selling something, all publicity is good publicity. > > No matter that your name is brought up as some kind of benchmark for retarded knee jerking. We also remember a baseballl player named Mendoza as well, for analogous reasons. Not that this is pertinent to the thread, and could probably use it’s own thread, but I’ll share anyway. My wife and I were just discussing the corollary “There’s no such thing as bad publicity” yesterday. I pointed out Komen and said, “Ya huh. Maybe it’s only for the relatively unknown. It’s good for the Joe Plumber where nobody knows your name, but not for the big guys who already have an established reputation.” So she pointed out Charlie Sheen. Obviously this guy got some major bad publicity, and while I can’t say it was great for his career, it wasn’t exactly bad either. Same with Limbaugh. Anyway, long story short, I think the saying should be, “There’s no such thing as bad publicity for the little guy. There is bad publicity for famous people with reputations, unless that reputation is already bad.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moonshot925/634747.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moonshot925/634747.md?page=4)