# moonshot925 **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 15, 2012, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moonshot925/634747 "2012-09-15T00:27:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Alka\_Seltzer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c89c15/32.png) [@Alka\_Seltzer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alka_Seltzer)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2012, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moonshot925/634747/141 "2012-09-25T15:40:20Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > **Moonshot925** , are you the author of [this book?](http://books.google.com/books?id=fIfxAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA51&lpg=PA51&dq=Then+the+%22MISSILE+AWAY%22+lights+would+illuminate+on+the+commander's+console.&source=bl&ots=49dZPynhPY&sig=0CD10TMbf4-FIw-VCjR8OqAxgSE&hl=en&sa=X&ei=sbdhUKKwGIb89QSBmICgAQ&ved=0CCkQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=Then%20the%20%22MISSILE%20AWAY%22%20lights%20would%20illuminate%20on%20the%20commander's%20console.&f=false) 'Cause that text looks awfully familiar. Good spot. Can I say I’m the first to be unsurprised? ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2012, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moonshot925/634747/142 "2012-09-25T15:51:33Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > **Moonshot925** , are you the author of [this book?](http://books.google.com/books?id=fIfxAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA51&lpg=PA51&dq=Then+the+%22MISSILE+AWAY%22+lights+would+illuminate+on+the+commander's+console.&source=bl&ots=49dZPynhPY&sig=0CD10TMbf4-FIw-VCjR8OqAxgSE&hl=en&sa=X&ei=sbdhUKKwGIb89QSBmICgAQ&ved=0CCkQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=Then%20the%20%22MISSILE%20AWAY%22%20lights%20would%20illuminate%20on%20the%20commander's%20console.&f=false) 'Cause that text looks awfully familiar. My only question is: Did he google the book, or does he have a print copy of it that he rubs on himself for self-gratification? ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2012, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moonshot925/634747/143 "2012-09-25T16:05:32Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > “Greetings, Airman Man Shit! Shall we play a game?” > > “No! And I’ve told you over and over, it’s _Moonshot_!” “I apologize, Moonbat.” “Grrr. It’s Man… I mean Moonshot!!!” “That’s what I said. How about a nice game of chess, Cumshot?” “Arrrr!!!” ---
**Author:** ![moonshot925](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f0a364/32.png) [@moonshot925](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/moonshot925)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2012, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moonshot925/634747/144 "2012-09-25T16:29:24Z")
That book incorrectly stated that the silo door was 80 tons. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2012, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moonshot925/634747/145 "2012-09-25T16:34:48Z")
Nice try. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2012, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moonshot925/634747/146 "2012-09-25T16:34:51Z")
> [@moonshot925](#): > > That book incorrectly stated that the silo door was 80 tons. Post #139. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2012, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moonshot925/634747/147 "2012-09-25T16:43:02Z")
I’m just curious how _WarGames_ is “a liberal fantasy”. There’s nothing in it I saw that says we should get rid of nuclear weapons - just that we shouldn’t allow the increased use of computers to cause us to behave like computers, too. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2012, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moonshot925/634747/148 "2012-09-25T16:44:43Z")
Well, the geek gets the girl. That’s kind of a universal fantasy though. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2012, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moonshot925/634747/149 "2012-09-25T16:49:33Z")
In the alternate “conservative fantasy” ending, the entire planet is vaporized. But we get them first! ---
**Author:** ![moonshot925](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f0a364/32.png) [@moonshot925](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/moonshot925)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2012, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moonshot925/634747/150 "2012-09-25T16:52:51Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > I’m just curious how _WarGames_ is “a liberal fantasy”. There’s nothing in it I saw that says we should get rid of nuclear weapons - just that we shouldn’t allow the increased use of computers to cause us to behave like computers, too. 1. Titan II ICBMs are shown be launched from Minuteman LCCs. 2. The MCCC is talking about smoking pot. Missilers never do drugs. 3. The launch procedure is inaccurate. 4. The DMCCC points his sidearm at the MCCC. That would never happen. 5. The MCCC refuses to turn his key. That would never happen. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2012, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moonshot925/634747/151 "2012-09-25T16:54:43Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > **Moonshot925** , are you the author of [this book?](http://books.google.com/books?id=fIfxAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA51&lpg=PA51&dq=Then+the+%22MISSILE+AWAY%22+lights+would+illuminate+on+the+commander's+console.&source=bl&ots=49dZPynhPY&sig=0CD10TMbf4-FIw-VCjR8OqAxgSE&hl=en&sa=X&ei=sbdhUKKwGIb89QSBmICgAQ&ved=0CCkQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=Then%20the%20%22MISSILE%20AWAY%22%20lights%20would%20illuminate%20on%20the%20commander's%20console.&f=false) 'Cause that text looks awfully familiar. I looked, and I can find similar information to what moonshot said, but I couldn’t find the word-for-word quotes. What pages did you find the most damning stuff? If it’s just the same procedures information, then I’m not sure if that’s sufficient to conclude plagiarism. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2012, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moonshot925/634747/152 "2012-09-25T16:56:13Z")
> [@moonshot925](#): > > 1. The MCCC is talking about smoking pot. Missilers never do drugs. Missilers never _talk about_ doing drugs? I served on a submarine, and I find that pretty hard to believe. I bet there’s an excellent chance that missile duty required the same long stretches of extreme boredom as submarine duty- and when you have bored young guys sitting around doing very little, the same handful of topics tend to come up over and over again. You can guess what the #1 topic was (and it wasn’t drugs), but drugs was probably in the top 10. ---
**Author:** ![Vita\_Beata](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/a9a28c/32.png) [@Vita\_Beata](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vita_Beata)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2012, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moonshot925/634747/153 "2012-09-25T16:56:39Z")
Moonshot, I haven’t read all your posts, but would like to tell you that I cracked up laughing over your “Commie Ships at the Dem Convention” posts. Stay and post! In my humble opinion, this board needs more conservative fuel added to the fire. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2012, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moonshot925/634747/154 "2012-09-25T16:58:38Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > I looked, and I can find similar information to what moonshot said, but I couldn’t find the word-for-word quotes. What pages did you find the most damning stuff? If it’s just the same procedures information, then I’m not sure if that’s sufficient to conclude plagiarism. Start reading halfway down the first full paragraph on the right. It’s pretty obvious then. ---
**Author:** ![moonshot925](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f0a364/32.png) [@moonshot925](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/moonshot925)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2012, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moonshot925/634747/155 "2012-09-25T17:01:28Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > I served on a submarine, What boat? ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2012, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moonshot925/634747/156 "2012-09-25T17:06:58Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > I looked, and I can find similar information to what moonshot said, but I couldn’t find the word-for-word quotes. What pages did you find the most damning stuff? If it’s just the same procedures information, then I’m not sure if that’s sufficient to conclude plagiarism. The link should take you to page 51. At the top is a sidebar labeled “Countdown to Doomsday”. While not word-for-word, **Moonshot** ’s quoted post is clearly lifted from pargraphs 3-5. As for the 80 tons vs. 110 tons argument, I don’t really care one way or another, but **Moonshot** is welcome to provide a cite showing he is correct. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2012, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moonshot925/634747/157 "2012-09-25T17:07:22Z")
> [@](#): > > What boat? The one that goes under water and comes back up when it wants to. ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2012, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moonshot925/634747/158 "2012-09-25T17:08:08Z")
Today’s Wondermark is all about moonshot: [**dude. DUDE.**](http://wondermark.com/874/) ---
**Author:** ![moonshot925](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f0a364/32.png) [@moonshot925](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/moonshot925)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2012, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moonshot925/634747/159 "2012-09-25T17:11:43Z")
The facts are with me. From [siloworld.net](http://siloworld.net) LAUNCHER CLOSURE DOOR 110 TONS OF REINFORCED CONCRETE & STEEL [http://www.siloworld.net/576thSMS/Present%20Day/MINUTEMAN/LF-8/lf-8.htm](http://www.siloworld.net/576thSMS/Present%20Day/MINUTEMAN/LF-8/lf-8.htm) ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2012, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moonshot925/634747/160 "2012-09-25T17:22:57Z")
So, one unvetted Internet source says one thing, a book published by the National Park Service says another. Toss-up, at best. Meanwhile, please answer my previous question. Are you claiming this was the first time you’ve seen the text I linked to? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moonshot925/634747.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moonshot925/634747.md?page=9)