# Mooooo-rice Part Deux. "He ain't no problem."

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 9, 2003, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mooooo-rice-part-deux-he-aint-no-problem/200538 "2003-09-09T15:13:22Z")\
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**Author:** ![beagledave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6de8d8/32.png) [@beagledave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beagledave)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2003, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mooooo-rice-part-deux-he-aint-no-problem/200538/1 "2003-09-09T15:13:22Z")

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So Maurice is booted from tOSU football program.

We already know that Jim Brown thinks that the AD there is a slavemaster for poor Mo.

Could it possible that someone might top Brown in the idiocy department?

Pshaw, I thought.

I was wrong

> **[Report: Clarett's extra benefits ends OSU career](https://www.espn.com/college-football/news/story?id=1612026)**
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> Maurice Clarett helped lead Ohio State to a national title last season. Apparently, he won't lead the Buckeyes to another one.

I give you Doug Williams, the coach at Grambling.

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> One possible landing spot for Clarett could be Grambling, a Division I-AA school that would not require Clarett to sit out a transfer year.
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> “A lot of people would like to have Maurice Clarett,” Grambling coach Doug Williams told ESPN The Magazine’s Gene Wojciechowski. "I don’t think a headache comes with the kid. **He didn’t shoot nobody. They didn’t arrest him for drugs. He didn’t rape nobody. Ain’t no problem with the kid."**

Hell, whats wrong with a little rape?!

Did you really **have** to include that in the list of potential “headaches”?

Picky Picky.

:rolleyes:  
Higher education…it’s whats for breakfast.

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**Author:** ![GaWd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f08c70/32.png) [@GaWd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GaWd)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2003, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mooooo-rice-part-deux-he-aint-no-problem/200538/2 "2003-09-09T15:32:09Z")

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BD- Considering the above-listed offenses are the most common for young sports figures and the ones we hear about on an almost too-often basis, yes, he did(well, no he didn’t HAVE to, but it fits).

When a sports figure pops up on the screen(especially if he’s a Dallas Cowboy, har har), I run through the above offenses in a guess to find out what the maroon is being accused of. IT’s almost always one of those “options” the coach mentioned.

Just my .02.

Sam

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**Author:** ![beagledave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6de8d8/32.png) [@beagledave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beagledave)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2003, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mooooo-rice-part-deux-he-aint-no-problem/200538/3 "2003-09-09T15:50:29Z")

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> \*Originally posted by GaWd \*  
> \*\*BD- Considering the above-listed offenses are the most common for young sports figures and the ones we hear about on an almost too-often basis, yes, he did(well, no he didn’t HAVE to, but it fits).  
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Umm I was being sarcastic. As in Doug Williams seems to have lowered the bar for reasonable behavior (“ain’t no problem”) so much that it seemed like a natural progression to not consider rape a “big deal”. Hello Bobby Knight.

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**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2003, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mooooo-rice-part-deux-he-aint-no-problem/200538/4 "2003-09-09T16:06:32Z")

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You’re mad that he included rape, but not mad he included shooting somone? I’d say shooting a guy is pretty darn bad too.

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**Author:** ![GaWd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f08c70/32.png) [@GaWd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GaWd)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2003, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mooooo-rice-part-deux-he-aint-no-problem/200538/5 "2003-09-09T16:14:58Z")

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I guess I see what you’re saying…

However, what offenses would you have included in your statement? I mean, his school offered him Perks, it’s not as if he committed one of the above offenses that I would consider a “problem” or a “headache”, or that he engaged in some sort of moral turpitude making him a “bad person”.

The coach was comparing his “perk” offense with things that should legitimately be considered “bad”.

Sam

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**Author:** ![beagledave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6de8d8/32.png) [@beagledave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beagledave)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2003, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mooooo-rice-part-deux-he-aint-no-problem/200538/6 "2003-09-09T16:34:16Z")

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I’ll try this again.

Clarette has had several things that any reasonable person would classify as “problems” while at tOUS

- skipped out on a final exam
- receiving “extra benefits” woth thousands of dollars.
- lying (or at best misleading) officials at tOSU about the allegations involving his behavior  
“Geiger said that Clarett was suspended because he did not abide by the NCAA’s Bylaw 10, which compels athletes and coaches to answer truthfully when confronted by university or NCAA questions.”
- he’s going to be charged with falsifying a report  
“Ohio State star running back Maurice Clarett will be charged with lying about items that were stolen from him out of a car, a city attorney spokesman said Tuesday.”

To say “ain’t no problem with the kid” seems …ummm, I dunno… **ridiculous**.

**If** it seemed that Clarett was repentent…had owned up to what he did, had shown improvement…then it makes sense to say something like “He made mistakes…he’s turned his behavior around, so we’re giving him a second chance at Grambling”. But. Clarett hasn’t…instead surrounding himself with shill apologists like Jim Brown

Williams seems to be saying as long as you don’t get caught raping someone or doing drugs…COME ON DOWN.

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**Author:** ![GaWd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f08c70/32.png) [@GaWd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GaWd)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2003, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mooooo-rice-part-deux-he-aint-no-problem/200538/7 "2003-09-09T16:48:08Z")

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Thanks, BD. The link you supplied to your OP didn’t have ANY of that info in it. puts thing in better perspective to someone who doesn’t follow collegiate sports on a daily basis.

And I have a headcold. Blah.

Sam

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**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2003, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mooooo-rice-part-deux-he-aint-no-problem/200538/8 "2003-09-09T17:00:19Z")

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Well, I’m the biggest non-fan of the NCAA’s “amateur atheletics” rules, so I don’t particularly worry if a person violates those. Clarett violated NCAA rules and did dumb things to cover up those violations.

The only one I really care about is falsifying a police report, that’s real life, not NCAA fantasyland.

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**Author:** ![beagledave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6de8d8/32.png) [@beagledave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beagledave)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2003, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mooooo-rice-part-deux-he-aint-no-problem/200538/9 "2003-09-09T17:07:54Z")

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> \*Originally posted by GaWd \*  
> \*\*Thanks, BD. The link you supplied to your OP didn’t have ANY of that info in it. puts thing in better perspective to someone who doesn’t follow collegiate sports on a daily basis.
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> And I have a headcold. Blah.
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> Sam \*\*

Glad it makes more sense now. FWIW, the page I linked to DID have links to background info on Clarett (this has been a long and ongoing story)

See the “Also See” and “Related Content” sections at the page for background links.

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**Author:** ![GaWd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f08c70/32.png) [@GaWd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GaWd)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2003, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mooooo-rice-part-deux-he-aint-no-problem/200538/10 "2003-09-09T17:18:53Z")

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I agree with Cheesesteak, though. I have always had a problem with many of the NCAA’s rules regarding amateur athletics.

Sam
