# MoP-ing up after the Cataclysm: Updated WoW General Discussion 8/22/12 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [August 22, 2012, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mop-ing-up-after-the-cataclysm-updated-wow-general-discussion-8-22-12/632256 "2012-08-22T06:30:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 37
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2013, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mop-ing-up-after-the-cataclysm-updated-wow-general-discussion-8-22-12/632256/721 "2013-04-12T05:29:43Z")
I’m sorry. Of course your guild already HAS a tabard and it’s a very good-looking one, so I chose it. I don’t know what I was thinking about. Rolling my shit into little balls, I reckon. Thanks Q ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2013, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mop-ing-up-after-the-cataclysm-updated-wow-general-discussion-8-22-12/632256/722 "2013-04-17T19:15:20Z")
Well, I finally got something _good_ out of Tol’Vir archaelogy: [http://mister-rik.com/hosted/wow/war\_tank.jpeg](http://mister-rik.com/hosted/wow/war_tank.jpeg) Still waiting to find that danged alchemy recipe for turning myself into a dragon, though. Earlier, I was digging at those night elf ruins in Stonetalon with all the Highborne ghosts hanging around chatting with each other, and I overheard something that I hadn’t noticed on previous visits to that dig site: \*Merchant Kendra says: I recommend you buy **like there was no tomorrow**. Who knows how long it will be until you find deals this good again. Merchant Kendra says: All I’m saying is **don’t be caught dead** in those outdated fashions!\* Which completely cracked me up, because those are, I’m guessing, supposed to be some of the Highborne who perished in the Sundering, 10,000 years ago. I’m assuming, of course, that those lines were put in specifically to be funny to those of us who know the lore 😛 ---
**Author:** ![The\_Lurker\_Above](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dc4da7/32.png) [@The\_Lurker\_Above](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Lurker_Above)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2013, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mop-ing-up-after-the-cataclysm-updated-wow-general-discussion-8-22-12/632256/723 "2013-04-17T20:01:05Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > Well, I finally got something _good_ out of Tol’Vir archaelogy: > > [http://mister-rik.com/hosted/wow/war\_tank.jpeg](http://mister-rik.com/hosted/wow/war_tank.jpeg) > > Still waiting to find that danged alchemy recipe for turning myself into a dragon, though. Yeah, that one’s no fun to farm. I got it on my 5th jar and count myself lucky. I’m still (very occasionally) hunting for my pet from them though. ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2013, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mop-ing-up-after-the-cataclysm-updated-wow-general-discussion-8-22-12/632256/724 "2013-04-18T02:12:35Z")
> [@The\_Lurker\_Above](#): > > Yeah, that one’s no fun to farm. I got it on my 5th jar and count myself lucky. I’m still (very occasionally) hunting for my pet from them though. I don’t think I’ve even _found_ five jars. Sure have found a lot of sand castles, though. The silly thing about that jar is that you reconstruct it out of 30-odd fragments _and only when you’ve put it together do you find something in it_. This makes no sense. Unless the recipe was engraved on the surface of the jar, rather than being contained inside it. ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2013, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mop-ing-up-after-the-cataclysm-updated-wow-general-discussion-8-22-12/632256/725 "2013-04-18T02:18:29Z")
As far as Pandaria archaeology, I put together a [Pristine Pearl of Yu’lon](http://www.wowhead.com/item=89184), which gave me a quest to put it on display at the Lorewalker’s library. Once it was on display I clicked it and read the flavor/lore text. And … the whole text kept referring to Yu’lon with masculine pronouns. During the Jade Serpent section of the Jade Forest storyline, Yu’lon is clearly female ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2013, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mop-ing-up-after-the-cataclysm-updated-wow-general-discussion-8-22-12/632256/726 "2013-04-18T23:21:46Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > As far as Pandaria archaeology, I put together a [Pristine Pearl of Yu’lon](http://www.wowhead.com/item=89184), which gave me a quest to put it on display at the Lorewalker’s library. Once it was on display I clicked it and read the flavor/lore text. And … the whole text kept referring to Yu’lon with masculine pronouns. During the Jade Serpent section of the Jade Forest storyline, Yu’lon is clearly female Well, Yu’lon changes body every few centuries. Maybe one millennium or another the scuptors at the Temple of the Jade Serpent took a few liberties with the statue is it was being built and voila! Unplanned gender reassignment.😉 ---
**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mop-ing-up-after-the-cataclysm-updated-wow-general-discussion-8-22-12/632256/727 "2013-04-23T19:03:26Z")
> [@gnoitall](#): > > I mean Noblegarden (whatever that means). > > Anyone farming eggs? > > The cross-realm zone thing is completely hosing it up. It seems that every egg spawn point has at least two toons camped on top if it. Egg “hunting” has become egg “farming”, in the same way that civilization went from hunter/gatherer to agriculture: We used to actively seek out and take the goods where they were, but now we just watch the grass grow until it’s ready to pluck. And in the case of Noblegarden, if we can click faster than the other guy. > > I was hoping to farm the mount, but my gather rate last night was less than 1 egg per minute, so there’s no damn way I’m going to farm up to 10 hours to get the 500 eggs for the mount. (Discounting RNG odds of getting the mount in one of the eggs. It could happen, but I don’t bank on it the same way I don’t call buying lotto tickets “my retirement plan”.) > > My main has the Noblegarden meta already, so there’s pretty damn little reason to do the thing other than the not-nearly-worth-it mount. > > Another meh seasonal event. Hmmm. On my server, it was pretty easy to gather eggs. Yes, Goldshire was a clusterfuck, but I hopped over to the Draenei village figuring it was the most pain-in-the-butt place to get to, and it was much less crowded. I put my kids to work gathering eggs, and in about two hours had enough to buy the strider mount. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Lurker\_Above](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dc4da7/32.png) [@The\_Lurker\_Above](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Lurker_Above)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mop-ing-up-after-the-cataclysm-updated-wow-general-discussion-8-22-12/632256/728 "2013-04-23T21:10:17Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > I don’t think I’ve even _found_ five jars. Sure have found a lot of sand castles, though. The silly thing about that jar is that you reconstruct it out of 30-odd fragments _and only when you’ve put it together do you find something in it_. This makes no sense. Unless the recipe was engraved on the surface of the jar, rather than being contained inside it. Engraved on the surface of the jar _in writing only an alchemist can see_. Non alchemists don’t even recogize it as writing! 😃 Next thing you’re going to be asking crazy questions like ‘why is that boar carring a giant 2-hand sword?’. ---
**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mop-ing-up-after-the-cataclysm-updated-wow-general-discussion-8-22-12/632256/729 "2013-04-23T21:19:17Z")
> [@The\_Lurker\_Above](#): > > Next thing you’re going to be asking crazy questions like ‘why is that boar carring a giant 2-hand sword?’. And missing his liver? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2013, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mop-ing-up-after-the-cataclysm-updated-wow-general-discussion-8-22-12/632256/730 "2013-04-23T21:52:35Z")
> [@Infovore](#): > > And missing his liver? 🙂 Striders without beaks, zhevras without hooves, boars without livers…obviously Azeroth is undergoing an ecological disaster, probably caused by the Night Elves. Those pointy-eared idiots are usually behind any major collapses… ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2013, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mop-ing-up-after-the-cataclysm-updated-wow-general-discussion-8-22-12/632256/731 "2013-04-24T01:08:58Z")
> [@The\_Lurker\_Above](#): > > Engraved on the surface of the jar _in writing only an alchemist can see_. Non alchemists don’t even recogize it as writing! 😃 > > Next thing you’re going to be asking crazy questions like ‘why is that boar carring a giant 2-hand sword?’. Or other crazy questions like, "Why were the pieces of this thing scattered all over three continents? ---
**Author:** ![martu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@martu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/martu)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2013, 8:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mop-ing-up-after-the-cataclysm-updated-wow-general-discussion-8-22-12/632256/732 "2013-04-24T08:44:09Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > Striders without beaks, zhevras without hooves, boars without livers…obviously Azeroth is undergoing an ecological disaster, probably caused by the Night Elves. Those pointy-eared idiots are usually behind any major collapses… All the Striders have beaks (and boars livers and so on) it’s just that sometimes while killing them you damage them. Or something. I have just taken up Archaeology on one of my level 80s and it has taken me from level 80 to mid way through 81 while getting to ~200 skill level. A half decent way to level at this point if you can’t face Hyjal or Vash’jir again. Does anyone know the formula for skinning? I want to know when a mob will be skinnable and also when it will go grey so no more skill ups. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2013, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mop-ing-up-after-the-cataclysm-updated-wow-general-discussion-8-22-12/632256/733 "2013-04-24T15:09:10Z")
> [@martu](#): > > All the Striders have beaks (and boars livers and so on) it’s just that sometimes while killing them you damage them. Or something. > > I have just taken up Archaeology on one of my level 80s and it has taken me from level 80 to mid way through 81 while getting to ~200 skill level. A half decent way to level at this point if you can’t face Hyjal or Vash’jir again. > > Does anyone know the formula for skinning? I want to know when a mob will be skinnable and also when it will go grey so no more skill ups. Thanks. The rule is that a skinnable critter of level x will require skinning skill 5x. So, at skill 200, level 40 mobs will be the highest level you can skill. Lowest, I dunno. I always aimed high. And with the massive xp and leveling increases, it was always easy to have a higher level than the mobs, so my ability to win the fight usually exceeded my ability to skin my trophy. So you wind up in zones that have grey difficulty mobs (for fighting) but orange diffulty for skinning. And don’t forget that any skinning knife in your inventory is a +10 skinning skill, even if it’s in your bags. ---
**Author:** ![kushiel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbce88/32.png) [@kushiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kushiel)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2013, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mop-ing-up-after-the-cataclysm-updated-wow-general-discussion-8-22-12/632256/734 "2013-04-24T16:51:48Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > Those pointy-eared idiots are usually behind any major collapses… I like to say that 50% of all bad things that happen on Azeroth are because of a night elf’s decision. Then 50% of those were caused by a Stormrage. Seriously, who the fuck thought it would be a good idea to make Malfurion co-racial leader? We’re probably going to find out he led an druid expedition to Pandaria and in trying to save a sapling released the Sha of Anger that corrupted Garrosh. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2013, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mop-ing-up-after-the-cataclysm-updated-wow-general-discussion-8-22-12/632256/735 "2013-04-24T17:52:37Z")
Still better than Staghelm, though, even without knowing the stuff from Cata… ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2013, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mop-ing-up-after-the-cataclysm-updated-wow-general-discussion-8-22-12/632256/736 "2013-04-24T19:31:17Z")
Oh I don’t know… the stuff from Cata gave me the chance to finally kill that asshole flat. And spit on the corpse. And ask “can we kill him again, please? I want to make sure he’s dead!” ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2013, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mop-ing-up-after-the-cataclysm-updated-wow-general-discussion-8-22-12/632256/737 "2013-04-24T19:52:44Z")
> [@Nava](#): > > Oh I don’t know… the stuff from Cata gave me the chance to finally kill that asshole flat. And spit on the corpse. And ask “can we kill him again, please? I want to make sure he’s dead!” You have a point… ---
**Author:** ![kushiel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbce88/32.png) [@kushiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kushiel)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2013, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mop-ing-up-after-the-cataclysm-updated-wow-general-discussion-8-22-12/632256/738 "2013-04-24T21:09:13Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > Still better than Staghelm, though, even without knowing the stuff from Cata… The book Stormrage kinda made me feel bad for him. In that ‘look at that sad, sad little man…’ way. I haven’t had the chance to kill him yet, but I wanna! ---
**Author:** ![martu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@martu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/martu)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2013, 8:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mop-ing-up-after-the-cataclysm-updated-wow-general-discussion-8-22-12/632256/739 "2013-04-25T08:16:06Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > Striders without beaks, zhevras without hooves, boars without livers…obviously Azeroth is undergoing an ecological disaster, probably caused by the Night Elves. Those pointy-eared idiots are usually behind any major collapses… > [@gnoitall](#): > > The rule is that a skinnable critter of level x will require skinning skill 5x. > > So, at skill 200, level 40 mobs will be the highest level you can skill. > > Lowest, I dunno. I always aimed high. And with the massive xp and leveling increases, it was always easy to have a higher level than the mobs, so my ability to win the fight usually exceeded my ability to skin my trophy. So you wind up in zones that have grey difficulty mobs (for fighting) but orange diffulty for skinning. > > And don’t forget that any skinning knife in your inventory is a +10 skinning skill, even if it’s in your bags. Thanks I still would like to know the formula though just for my sanity. My place of work has a new web policy so I have no access to wowhead anymore, so annoying. ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2013, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mop-ing-up-after-the-cataclysm-updated-wow-general-discussion-8-22-12/632256/740 "2013-04-25T19:11:02Z")
> [@martu](#): > > Thanks I still would like to know the formula though just for my sanity. My place of work has a new web policy so I have no access to wowhead anymore, so annoying. As to the question of “lowest level mob that can still give skill”, I saw a comment on Wowhead (sorry you’re blocked out) that said: > [@Wowhead](#): > > If it works the same way as the other gathering professions, and I think it does, then\*\* skillups go yellow when you’re 25 above the required level, green when you’re 50 above, and grey at 75 above\*\*. So at 300 skill grey mobs would be (300 - 75) / 5 = L45 **Added emphasis mine** So, for your example of 200 skill level, grey skill mobs are skill 125 to skin, so level 25; therefore, level 26-30 mobs will be green, and level 31-35 mobs will be yellow, and level 36-40 mobs will be orange, and level 41+ mobs will be red. Leaving aside the skinning skill bonus of a skinning tool; add two levels to all number in that case. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mop-ing-up-after-the-cataclysm-updated-wow-general-discussion-8-22-12/632256.md?page=36) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mop-ing-up-after-the-cataclysm-updated-wow-general-discussion-8-22-12/632256.md?page=38)