# MoP-ing up after the Cataclysm: Updated WoW General Discussion 8/22/12 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [August 22, 2012, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mop-ing-up-after-the-cataclysm-updated-wow-general-discussion-8-22-12/632256 "2012-08-22T06:30:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 58
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mop-ing-up-after-the-cataclysm-updated-wow-general-discussion-8-22-12/632256/1141 "2014-04-24T16:10:06Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > I mentioned some time back that my rogue had found a Battered Hilt while running ICC dungeons for Tushui Pandaren rep. I _finally_ got around to doing the quest chain, and am now the proud owner of [Quel’Delar, Cunning of the Shadows](http://us.battle.net/wow/en/item/50046). And it’s utterly useless to me. I knew already that I was going to end up with a “version of Quel’Delar” appropriate to my class, but I was hoping I’d get to choose a Q’D _dagger_, because Theloise is a Sub rogue. Nope, got a 1-hand sword, which I can’t even use to transmog her daggers. Oh well, I guess she can wear it with one of her RP outfits _sigh_ Well, you could reroll combat… 😃 (TBH, I’ve only ever played combat on my rogues. I guess it’s out of vogue now, but my main’s a marksman hunter so obviously that has never mattered to me.) > [@](#): > > The reason that it took me so long to get around to doing the quest chain is because I knew I’d have to take the sword to the Sunwell, and I assumed that meant I’d need to fight my way there through the raid. So I’d been putting it off, only to discover that the Sunwell portion of the chain takes place in an phased version of the raid, as it exists _now_, not as it existed during TBC. Which makes sense, I guess. Yeah, I was nervous about this on my main back in the day (the aforementioned hunter, back when you could use the appropriate two-handed sword as a stat stick… and [Ferocity of the Scorned](http://www.wowwiki.com/Quel%27Delar,_Ferocity_of_the_Scorned) made a damn fine hunter stat stick). I went into the Sunwell raid portal fully expecting to die (after fake-raiding with an alt on a second account) but was pleased to discover I wouldn’t have to chain feign-death my way through the instance. 😛 > [@](#): > > Also, it would appear that Vereesa Windrunner no longer yells an announcement to everybody in Dalaran that somebody has just reclaimed Quel’Delar. Or maybe she only announces it if you complete the chain at level 80. Really? That’s a shame. (Well, TBH, it probably wouldn’t be Vereesa in my case, since the toons I’d be interested in doing this with are all Horde.) The last time I did the quest chain was during Wrath, and I admit I enjoyed the attention. You still get announcements for most raid boss turnins… for Ony, for Blackwing, for Algalon… (the Algalon event is still very cool, although it seems I see it about once a week). ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mop-ing-up-after-the-cataclysm-updated-wow-general-discussion-8-22-12/632256/1142 "2014-04-24T16:16:39Z")
> [@Lemur866](#): > > The wonders of child labor–I just had my kids collect 500 eggs to buy the Springstrider mount for Noblegarden. I mean, I already had one from last year, but figure I can convert this one to cash. > > One thing I can’t understand is how this mount can be listed for several thousand gold on the auction house. It only takes 2 hours max to collect the eggs needed, just dinking around one of the starter villages. It’s a really easy mount to get. So why would someone pay 3000 gold for one? Of course listed items don’t mean actual sales, but items trend down to the actual buying price. Every so often I check mount prices hoping for a deal, and I never see this mount listed for less than 3000. When I compare the 2 hours of bucolic egg hunting for this mount with the two weeks of grinding Klaaxi dailies to get my scorpion mount, I can’t understand the AH price. My observation from last year is that egg-gathering was much more heavily camped. You could spend two hours trying to get a dozen eggs, with every spawn point camped by at least one toon. I gave up after trying a while because it was evident that I’d never have enough patience to see it through on a high-population PvP server (especially with the intermittent gank raids while you’re still flagged). And also because I discovered that one of my sons (whom I had been sharing the account with) had gotten the mount on one of his toons, and after the “all mounts for all characters” changes I didn’t need to get one of my own. :smack: Frankly, there’s nothing I need in Noblegarden any more. I suppose the Tome of Polymorph into bunny rabbit would be cool, but I already use a non-standard polymorph (porcupine) and I’d feel funny Arcane Blasting a harmless little bunny rabbit. Even if it’s really a ravening Mogu or something. ---
**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mop-ing-up-after-the-cataclysm-updated-wow-general-discussion-8-22-12/632256/1143 "2014-04-24T21:45:36Z")
For anyone frustrated by egg camping you could always roll a new character on a low pop server, the egg gathering areas are very near the start areas. The Draeni village is probably the least populated. ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2014, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mop-ing-up-after-the-cataclysm-updated-wow-general-discussion-8-22-12/632256/1144 "2014-04-25T02:09:48Z")
> [@gnoitall](#): > > Well, you could reroll combat… 😃 I’ve tried Combat a few times, never liked it. Rolling Subtlety was when I finally started to get somewhere with a rogue. I haven’t really tried Assassination, though. > [@gnoitall](#): > > My observation from last year is that egg-gathering was much more heavily camped. You could spend two hours trying to get a dozen eggs, with every spawn point camped by at least one toon. > [@Lemur866](#): > > For anyone frustrated by egg camping you could always roll a new character on a low pop server, the egg gathering areas are very near the start areas. The Draeni village is probably the least populated. I saw somebody in Goldshire trying to sell a “3-egg camp spot”. I can’t camp. Boooooooorrrrrrriiiiinnng! I prefer to run around snatching every uncamped egg I see. I also discovered that nobody seems to be aware that an egg spawns in that tent in Kharanos, near the flight point. When I first hit Kharanos on my human warlock (on the first day of the holiday), there were quite a few campers, but I was still able to quickly gather enough eggs to turn in the daily quest. I left to do other things and then came back later. It was still fairly early, only about 8PM Pacific, and the place was _deserted_. All the eggs for me! I really don’t need to do this holiday, as I already have the title and the mount, but I wanted the new Black Bunny Ears for my warlock. Given that I’m only [School of Hard Knocks] short of [What a Long Strange Trip], the only holidays I really bother with any more are the ones that have things to hit all over the world, like the Fire Festival. Those holidays are great for racking up a lot of XP for my leveling toons. ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2014, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mop-ing-up-after-the-cataclysm-updated-wow-general-discussion-8-22-12/632256/1145 "2014-04-25T02:12:51Z")
Oh yeah, I finally got my paladin into full Grievous Gladiator gear: [http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/lightbringer/Eilyssana/advanced](http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/lightbringer/Eilyssana/advanced) ---
**Author:** ![Mogle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mogle/32/12021_2.png) [@Mogle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mogle)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2014, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mop-ing-up-after-the-cataclysm-updated-wow-general-discussion-8-22-12/632256/1146 "2014-05-01T21:21:51Z")
And finally, after 520 or so wipes, I got myself the ‘Hellscream’s Downfall’ title, and my guild got another Realm First! achievement(not that there was much competition). 😃 But not a single heirloom. ---
**Author:** ![Geek\_Mecha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecae2f/32.png) [@Geek\_Mecha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Geek_Mecha)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2014, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mop-ing-up-after-the-cataclysm-updated-wow-general-discussion-8-22-12/632256/1147 "2014-05-02T00:48:22Z")
Congratulations to you both! I’m pushing myself through TBC content to collect all Alchemy recipes. Although it’s painful getting exalted reputations for the 2nd or 3rd time, I have to say I really like the variety of ways you learned recipes in this expansion - a nice mix of drops, reputation grinds, and discovery. It gave me a lot to do over the last few weeks. I’m still working toward some TBC recipes even though I have all the MoP and most of the Cata and WoTLK ones. ---
**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2014, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mop-ing-up-after-the-cataclysm-updated-wow-general-discussion-8-22-12/632256/1148 "2014-05-02T15:02:35Z")
Sold one of the springstriders for 2000 gold today. Wow. Hard to believe. I guess I was undercutting the price since everyone else was offering them for 3000, but I figured nobody was buying at that price. I actually got three springstriders this year, two characters dug up 500 chocolates each, and I got a free one in an egg. ---
**Author:** ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2014, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mop-ing-up-after-the-cataclysm-updated-wow-general-discussion-8-22-12/632256/1149 "2014-05-06T05:00:03Z")
I’ve been playing again recently, I’m having fun doing dailies, though I’m still way too chicken to do LFR/LFD. I rolled a brewmaster and the few times I’ve tanked it’s been fun, but I just don’t know any of the dungeons and I’m just afraid of the abuse if I screw up. That said, I’ve had fun doing old raids as well as dailies. I beat Ahn’Qiraj to try and get the pet (didn’t drop, sadly), and while I was returning the Eye of C’thun I decided to go ahead and do Twilight of the Gods (or whatever it’s called in WoW, Defense of Hyjal Summit maybe? It’s the cavern of times version of the Warcraft III mission Twilight of the Gods). I’m currently wondering if it’s possible for me to do WoTLK raids, since I never got to see the end of ICC, though I do remember our guild getting through ToC. Sadly, I know I can’t solo Cata and I really want to see Dragon Soul, but oh well, maybe after WoD comes out. If anyone wants to play on Cairne again it could be fun to have some chat going. ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2014, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mop-ing-up-after-the-cataclysm-updated-wow-general-discussion-8-22-12/632256/1150 "2014-05-06T11:54:05Z")
> [@Jragon](#): > > If anyone wants to play on Cairne again it could be fun to have some chat going. Well, I’m still on Cairne, and more often now that I boosted my orc rogue, Dugramm, to 90. Yesterday I finally got his Mining and Skinning up to where he can now mine productively in Pandaria and actually skin the mobs he kills. Then I bought a big pile of cloth and leveled his First Aid from 150 to 600 so that he can finally use that stack of bandages Donoma sent to him. ---
**Author:** ![MindWanderer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d78d45/32.png) [@MindWanderer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MindWanderer)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2014, 12:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mop-ing-up-after-the-cataclysm-updated-wow-general-discussion-8-22-12/632256/1151 "2014-05-06T12:01:08Z")
I got tired of playing my Shadow priest and always just seeing a shadow, never my character or gear. Disc healing just seems different from what I’m used to, and Holy, which I enjoyed in the past, I guess is mostly for raid healing now, so I think I’m going to bench my priest and start fresh. I picked up a hunter and it took me quite a while to figure out what I needed to do to get a different pet at level 10. Also, I got lost in Orgrimmar often because I’ve mostly played Alliance. Eventually I figured out that the Tame Beast skill was telling me I already had a full roster of pets, even though I only had a boar. So I figured it out and was able to stable the boar and Tame a spider after quite a lot of confusion. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2014, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mop-ing-up-after-the-cataclysm-updated-wow-general-discussion-8-22-12/632256/1152 "2014-05-06T12:29:17Z")
You will get more active pet slots as you level, so the stable shuffle won’t really last long, unless you really like using different pets all the time. Remember that there are really only three “families” of pet: Tenacity, Ferocity and Cunning. Tenacity is your tank class, Ferocity is your DPS class, and Cunning is mostly for PVP. Individual types of pets have unique powers (Turtles have a force field, for example) but the big divide is Tenacity and Ferocity (Cunning isn’t really useful in PVE play). ---
**Author:** ![Mogle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mogle/32/12021_2.png) [@Mogle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mogle)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2014, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mop-ing-up-after-the-cataclysm-updated-wow-general-discussion-8-22-12/632256/1153 "2014-05-06T12:52:57Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > Remember that there are really only three “families” of pet: Tenacity, Ferocity and Cunning. Tenacity is your tank class, Ferocity is your DPS class, and Cunning is mostly for PVP. Those are specializations these days, while each actual pet family will come with a default spec(eg, cats will be Ferocity when tamed) it can be changed at any time when you’re not in combat. ETA:[Petopia](http://www.wow-petopia.com/) is the place to go for everything you ever wanted to know about hunter pets. ---
**Author:** ![MindWanderer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d78d45/32.png) [@MindWanderer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MindWanderer)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2014, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mop-ing-up-after-the-cataclysm-updated-wow-general-discussion-8-22-12/632256/1154 "2014-05-06T14:06:57Z")
What type of pet should I have for leveling? Tenacity? ---
**Author:** ![Rachellelogram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rachellelogram/32/8689_2.png) [@Rachellelogram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rachellelogram)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2014, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mop-ing-up-after-the-cataclysm-updated-wow-general-discussion-8-22-12/632256/1155 "2014-05-06T14:17:14Z")
Leveling a hunter is ridiculously easy. You might want/need a tenacity pet if you’re leveling as marks or survival. But if you’re beast mastery, any spec of pet will be able to hold aggro. I prefer to level as BM spec because it’s the easiest/funnest. ---
**Author:** ![MindWanderer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d78d45/32.png) [@MindWanderer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MindWanderer)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2014, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mop-ing-up-after-the-cataclysm-updated-wow-general-discussion-8-22-12/632256/1156 "2014-05-06T14:25:10Z")
> [@Rachellelogram](#): > > Leveling a hunter is ridiculously easy. You might want/need a tenacity pet if you’re leveling as marks or survival. But if you’re beast mastery, any spec of pet will be able to hold aggro. I prefer to level as BM spec because it’s the easiest/funnest. Thanks. I picked survival. I will try out Tenacity first, I suppose. ---
**Author:** ![Rachellelogram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rachellelogram/32/8689_2.png) [@Rachellelogram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rachellelogram)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2014, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mop-ing-up-after-the-cataclysm-updated-wow-general-discussion-8-22-12/632256/1157 "2014-05-06T14:41:25Z")
> [@Jragon](#): > > I’ve been playing again recently, I’m having fun doing dailies, though I’m still way too chicken to do LFR/LFD. I rolled a brewmaster and the few times I’ve tanked it’s been fun, but I just don’t know any of the dungeons and I’m just afraid of the abuse if I screw up. It’s definitely not a great idea to step foot into LFR as a tank (monk or otherwise) without knowing the fights. But you could respec windwalker and DPS to learn them. Just turn off raid chat and find a geared melee dps to assist. Once you’ve done them a few times as DPS, go to youtube and watch the fights from a tank perspective. Also, read the dungeon journal, gem/enchant fully, and you’ll be golden. You can even change your loot spec to brewmaster while DPSing, so you get tank loot from raids. That’ll help you when you go back as a tank later. If you want, you can group up with me on my OP disc priest and we can do some LFRs together (I’m pretty sure you can queue cross-realm for those). You’ll get a quick queue because I heal. If you’re interested, send me a PM with your battletag! My fiance is a dps who can come with us, and he knows almost all the raids on heroic mode (and all of them on normal). He leads his guild’s raids, so he can probably give you tank tips. ---
**Author:** ![Eonwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eonwe/32/240_2.png) [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2014, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mop-ing-up-after-the-cataclysm-updated-wow-general-discussion-8-22-12/632256/1158 "2014-05-06T14:43:43Z")
I’ve been off for a year and change (just after Pandaria went live), and for whatever reason decided to re-subscribe yesterday. I’ll be kicking around Cairne at various and irregular hours. I’ve got to wrap my brain around some of the big changes (ie, skill tree turning into a tiered, limited option thing); I’m feeling quite n00b-ish. ---
**Author:** ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2014, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mop-ing-up-after-the-cataclysm-updated-wow-general-discussion-8-22-12/632256/1159 "2014-05-06T15:25:07Z")
> [@Rachellelogram](#): > > You can even change your loot spec to brewmaster while DPSing, so you get tank loot from raids. That’ll help you when you go back as a tank later. I’m not sure it even matters. I’ve found that regardless of which spec I’m on, I get the same drops on Timeless Isles, and the same list of gear from quatermasters/point vendors. Hell, Mr. Robot (assuming the tool is still accurate) recommends basically the same gear. Though obviously the tier set bonuses are different between specs so there’s that. It seems like the two have basically the same stat priority, except Brewmasters value expertise a little more highly. ---
**Author:** ![Rachellelogram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rachellelogram/32/8689_2.png) [@Rachellelogram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rachellelogram)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2014, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mop-ing-up-after-the-cataclysm-updated-wow-general-discussion-8-22-12/632256/1160 "2014-05-06T18:22:04Z")
> [@Jragon](#): > > I’m not sure it even matters. I’ve found that regardless of which spec I’m on, I get the same drops on Timeless Isles, and the same list of gear from quatermasters/point vendors. Hell, Mr. Robot (assuming the tool is still accurate) recommends basically the same gear. Though obviously the tier set bonuses are different between specs so there’s that. It seems like the two have basically the same stat priority, except Brewmasters value expertise a little more highly. Hmm, I mistweave on my monk so I don’t really know the difference. Would it make a difference where trinkets are concerned? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mop-ing-up-after-the-cataclysm-updated-wow-general-discussion-8-22-12/632256.md?page=57) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mop-ing-up-after-the-cataclysm-updated-wow-general-discussion-8-22-12/632256.md?page=59)