# More "clique" nonsense

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-clique-nonsense/4036>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 26, 2000, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-clique-nonsense/4036 "2000-01-26T16:21:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2000, 9:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-clique-nonsense/4036/61 "2000-01-27T09:01:00Z")

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**WallyM7** , if it weren’t for your poor health, I’d come over and kick your ass for that lame German=Dutch joke up there 😉

## And yes, of course wearing clogs is mandatory in the _ **Dutch Clique** _.

**Coldfire**

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_ **"You know how complex women are"** _

- Neil Peart, **Rush** (1993)

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**Author:** ![Flypsyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f0a364/32.png) [@Flypsyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flypsyde)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2000, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-clique-nonsense/4036/62 "2000-01-27T15:19:00Z")

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What?!?!? There’s no clique? Well, what in the hell have I been trying to get into all this time? Jesu Cristi, can’t you people tell a soul he’s wasting his time? Dammit!

(Can’t wait until “Spiffle” makes it onto the board. Clique accusations will be flying.)

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He weathered a firestorm of agony and did not break.  
And while Yori raged against his unbending  
courage, we took Kyuden Hiruma back.  
His loss is great, but so is the gift his suffering brought.  
-_Yakamo’s Funeral_

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**Author:** ![Mullinator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@Mullinator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mullinator)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2000, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-clique-nonsense/4036/63 "2000-01-27T15:28:00Z")

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If we do start up this clique, I volunteer to be the treasurer and official look-out.

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2000, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-clique-nonsense/4036/64 "2000-01-27T16:22:00Z")

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Well, okay, Mullinator, but only if we can use your treehouse.

(note to clique: I mailed the fatted calf off to UncleBeer, but heard he swapped it to Baal for a double order of Buffalo wings and a BLT.)

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Uke

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**Author:** ![Flypsyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f0a364/32.png) [@Flypsyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flypsyde)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2000, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-clique-nonsense/4036/65 "2000-01-27T16:59:00Z")

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> (note to clique: I mailed the fatted calf off to UncleBeer, but heard he swapped it to Baal for a double order of Buffalo wings and a BLT.)

## Bacchus must be gettin’ stingy if he’s been beaten by a BLT.

He weathered a firestorm of agony and did not break.  
And while Yori raged against his unbending  
courage, we took Kyuden Hiruma back.  
His loss is great, but so is the gift his suffering brought.  
-_Yakamo’s Funeral_

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**Author:** ![Diane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2acd7d/32.png) [@Diane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diane)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2000, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-clique-nonsense/4036/66 "2000-01-27T17:04:00Z")

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I stand corrected.

I would like to recant the words “clique” as well as “cliché” and replace it with the words “A couple of posters who feel it is their public duty to police, approve, and authorize the use of the SDMB.”

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> If we do start up this clique, I volunteer to be the treasurer and official look-out.

I volunteer to be the reason for a look-out.

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\>^,^\<  
KITTEN  
Fluff yer hair Beula, I’s feelin frisky - M.S.

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**Author:** ![ReservoirDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8edcca/32.png) [@ReservoirDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ReservoirDog)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2000, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-clique-nonsense/4036/67 "2000-01-27T17:20:00Z")

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> Originally posted by Diane:  
> “A couple of posters who feel it is their public duty to police, approve, and authorize the use of the SDMB.”  
> \*\*

Remember the Hall Monitors back in public school? Hahahahaha! What funny little people they were.

“May I see your hall pass?”  
“No. I don’t think so.”  
“B-b-but I n-need to see a pass.”  
“Hmmmm. That’s quite a job you’ve got there.”  
“W-w-wait a minute. W-where are you going? You need a pass!”  
“Clearly, I do not.”  
“You’re in b-b-big trouble!”  
“Yeah.”

Oh, yes, the Hall Monitors. Ranked right up there with the Recess Lady. Hooo-boy!

And, since this is the Pit, allow me to add:

You’re all a bunch of fucking losers!

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2000, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-clique-nonsense/4036/68 "2000-01-27T17:37:00Z")

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RD:

You forgot to give the Hall Monitor a large wedgie before you strolled off, laughing. It’s the little things that make life worth living.

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**Author:** ![Nutty\_Bunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/d07c76/32.png) [@Nutty\_Bunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nutty_Bunny)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2000, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-clique-nonsense/4036/69 "2000-01-28T06:00:00Z")

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Kellibelli:

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> So, do you want to sit with me at lunch tomorrow?

Well, only if you don’t pick on me about my Smurfs lunchbox. 😉

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**Author:** ![NewtonsApple](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a87d85/32.png) [@NewtonsApple](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NewtonsApple)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2000, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-clique-nonsense/4036/70 "2000-01-28T06:07:00Z")

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(thinking back 10 years)Tear gas, riot police, sharpshooters. Ahh the school lunch breaks at a California school yard.

🙂

All cause of me, and my LUNCH TIME MAFIA.

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**Author:** ![SINsApple](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb8c5e/32.png) [@SINsApple](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SINsApple)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2000, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-clique-nonsense/4036/71 "2000-01-27T20:26:00Z")

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Personally the only cliquish behavior that annyos me is when non-flamed posters come into a flame and feel the need to defend the flamee. Grow up, this isn’t high school where you need to posse up to defend the girl or guy you have a crush on or just worship.

And do you want to know who I have noticed has the most followers like this?. . .DIANE!!  
Oh the irony is killing me. Whoo boy.

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“I celebrate myself, and sing myself, and what I assume you shall assume, for every atom belonging to me as good belongs to you.” --Whitman

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**Author:** ![David\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/51bf81/32.png) [@David\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David_B)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2000, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-clique-nonsense/4036/72 "2000-01-27T20:32:00Z")

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Hey! Don’t go flaming Diane!

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**Author:** ![Diane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2acd7d/32.png) [@Diane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diane)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2000, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-clique-nonsense/4036/73 "2000-01-27T20:42:00Z")

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SINS - Bullshit

## With the exception of MRunner, back up your claim with proof.

\>^,^\<  
KITTEN  
Fluff yer hair Beula, I’s feelin frisky - M.S.

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**Author:** ![phouka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c5a1d2/32.png) [@phouka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phouka)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2000, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-clique-nonsense/4036/74 "2000-01-27T20:45:00Z")

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Diane, I adore you, and I just know I’m going to be looking down the barrel of your flamethrower for saying this, but . . .

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> Look around, you’ll see the same 6 or 7 screen names in threads such as these.

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> I do think there is a small clique on this board . . .

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> Alphie - Hold your breath waiting for me to post names.

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> the point I have been making is that junior high school mentality a few “adults” . . .

and now:

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> "A couple of posters who . . . "

Like I said, Diane, I really like you. You took on MarkSerlin and pounded him into freshly ground trollburger. It was beautiful.

But your unnamed accusations and changing numbers reminds me of (and Lady forgive me for saying this) McCarthy’s tactics.

“I have here a list of six or seven - no, wait, just a couple, no, a group - members of the SDMB who are acting like their public duty is to police, approve, and authorize the use of the SDMB.”

If this really is that big of a problem, Diane, then I think it would be appropriate for you to personally and publically confront the people you believe are guilty. Call them on it. Show specific examples where they have been out of line in their behavior. Demand that they account for themselves. Urge them to change their behavior.

Otherwise, the argument you make is compromised, and it’s much more difficult to sway those of us sitting on the fence.

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**Author:** ![Diane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2acd7d/32.png) [@Diane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diane)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2000, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-clique-nonsense/4036/75 "2000-01-27T20:48:00Z")

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Now that I think about it, you must be talking about those love sick guys I keep around as my knights in shining armor.

What can I say, they like my perfume.

(Your checks in the mail, UncleBeer)

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\>^,^\<  
KITTEN  
Fluff yer hair Beula, I’s feelin frisky - M.S.

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**Author:** ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2000, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-clique-nonsense/4036/76 "2000-01-27T21:32:00Z")

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My check? What ever for, Diane my dahling. I offer myself out of undying passion.

That and the ritual sacrifices to my godship.

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“Many count their chickens before they are hatched; and where they expect bacon, meet with broken bones.”  
–Miguel de Cervantes–

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**Author:** ![Diane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2acd7d/32.png) [@Diane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diane)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2000, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-clique-nonsense/4036/77 "2000-01-27T21:34:00Z")

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Phouka -

I love you too!! 😃 No flames coming to you from my direction.

The reason I don’t want to post the names of the people who I am accusing of this behavior, is that I don’t have the time nor the desire to become involved in a flame-fest with those I list. I have absolutely no problem with confronting someone, hell, just look at a few of my past flames, but you know and I know that if I were post a list of names I would have to respond to each one of their responses as well as those who agree or disagree. I just don’t have the time nor the desire and I won’t make a direct accusation that I am not willing to put the time and effort into continuing.

I still think that there are - some - a few - whatever - people on this board who go well beyond the typical troll-bullshit clean-up. I’m not referring to the dipshits who come here spouting their racist garbage or the jackasses who ask questions about parkways and driveways and especially those who come here for no other reason but to disrupt.

I am talking about the gang mentality that occurs the second someone happens to disagree with one of them. The waiting around like a pack of hyenas waiting for a newbie to make one little mistake just so they can shred it apart. How they jump on the newbies ass with nothing to go on but assumptions (take a look at Mrunners thread in the PIT). Of course, as soon as one of them makes a “kill” the other few are there to pat each others backs and laugh about how they made the newbie look like a fool.

Like most others here, I will jump the shit of anyone who comes onto this board with ACTUAL trollish behavior. I will chastise the hell out of anyone who creates sock puppets (MarkSerlin for one). I will spank the shit out of anyone who spouts racist remarks. I think assholes are assholes, and I have no problem in saying so to their message board “face”.

My entire point to both this thread and Mrunners was this:

There are new people joining the SDMB every day, there are many more who lurk. I have personally received e-mails from some of these people regarding something I may have posted. Most messages are well written and appear intelligent. I always suggest that they post their words to the SDMB because I think they have something to offer. Almost without fail, their response to me is that they are not ready to be attacked by the few wolves that lay in wait.

No insult is intended to any of you, but seeing the same posters over and over is becoming stagnant. The irony to this is that some of these same posters are the ones who are keeping the others from making an appearance. They are stunting the growth of the board.

I for one would like to see a wider variety of people, and yes, it pisses me off that there are a few who keep that from happening.

As far as the “few/couple/clique” comment, I will admit that I haven’t sat down and counted each and every person who does this, although there are a few.

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\>^,^\<  
KITTEN  
Fluff yer hair Beula, I’s feelin frisky - M.S.

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**Author:** ![SINsApple](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb8c5e/32.png) [@SINsApple](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SINsApple)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2000, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-clique-nonsense/4036/78 "2000-01-27T21:52:00Z")

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You hit the nail on the head Diane, the people I was referring to are exactly the same people you call your knights in shining armor.

Not too long ago, someone started a thread about how you are a poor debater. I can’t recall who it was, but I thought they made one or two seemingly valid points. Rather than respond to that person’s flame, you had your little lackeys do it for you. And I wouldn’t call what they did debating so much as attacking anyone who disagreed with you.

Gee, sounds like the cliques you have been describing doesn’t it? Regulars who attack anyone who disagrees with the leader of their clique? Hm, again, the irony is mind-boggling.

If I sounds sarcastic, it is because that is what I intend. The only clique I ever observed existing on the SDMB was one revolving around you Diane. So I find it painfully funny that you yourself are the one casting accusations of cliques and reprimands for said cliques. You tell me you want me to back up my accusations, yet you are the one who refuses to do so. I just cannot get over your high and mighty, hypocritical attitude.

You want a cliche? How 'bout “the pot calling the kettle black”?

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“I celebrate myself, and sing myself, and what I assume you shall assume, for every atom belonging to me as good belongs to you.” --Whitman

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**Author:** ![Diane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2acd7d/32.png) [@Diane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diane)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2000, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-clique-nonsense/4036/79 "2000-01-27T22:13:00Z")

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Oh here SinsAsshole, let me dredge it up for you.  
[http://www.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum5/HTML/000383.html](http://www.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum5/HTML/000383.html)

And no, I’m not sharing my guys.

I also challenge you to find any post (except the one I linked) where I needed someone to come to my rescue. I assure you, I can handle my own.

Let me also point something out that you apparently missed or failed to understand:

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> I stand corrected.
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> I would like to recant the words “clique” as well as “cliché” and replace it with the words “A couple of posters who feel it is their public duty to police, approve, and authorize the use of the SDMB.”

Comprehende’?

## See the difference between the things you say and my clarification?

\>^,^\<  
KITTEN  
Fluff yer hair Beula, I’s feelin frisky - M.S.

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**Author:** ![Diane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2acd7d/32.png) [@Diane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diane)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2000, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-clique-nonsense/4036/80 "2000-01-27T22:26:00Z")

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One more thing. . . .

Your comment

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> Rather than respond to that person’s flame, you had your little lackeys do it for you.

Makes you out to be (1) a liar, or (2) comprehensive disabled.

Go back and read the thread.

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\>^,^\<  
KITTEN  
Fluff yer hair Beula, I’s feelin frisky - M.S.

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