# More Conservapedia fun: 'Scientific Theory' is a just the secularized version of the word "heresy"

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**Created:** [June 4, 2011, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-conservapedia-fun-scientific-theory-is-a-just-the-secularized-version-of-the-word-heresy/584322 "2011-06-04T18:39:36Z")\
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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2011, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-conservapedia-fun-scientific-theory-is-a-just-the-secularized-version-of-the-word-heresy/584322/41 "2011-06-05T16:59:38Z")

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A coincidence? Uh-huh. Sure. If you say so…

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2011, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-conservapedia-fun-scientific-theory-is-a-just-the-secularized-version-of-the-word-heresy/584322/42 "2011-06-05T17:33:46Z")

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The articles aren’t all written by him though. Some uber-conservative goes “hey guys, lets have random internet users write about how liberals are destroying America.” I’m pretty sure a lot of trolls are going to respond.

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**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2011, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-conservapedia-fun-scientific-theory-is-a-just-the-secularized-version-of-the-word-heresy/584322/43 "2011-06-05T20:26:07Z")

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> [@Capitaine\_Zombie](#):
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> You mean Schafly personally approved this?

Even if not, he hasn’t removed it yet.

> [@Capitaine\_Zombie](#):
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> Has it ever occured to anyone that this Schafly guy might be trolling from day one?

Look up who he is and where he comes from. If he’s trolling, it’s a troll indistinguishable from his real life and perfectly explicable once you take his past into account.

Admittedly, sometimes you can’t tell if someone is a troll over there. You can’t always tell if someone is a troll in real life, either.

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**Author:** ![LouisB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@LouisB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LouisB)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2011, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-conservapedia-fun-scientific-theory-is-a-just-the-secularized-version-of-the-word-heresy/584322/44 "2011-06-05T21:43:04Z")

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I’m old, easily confused, easy to fool and not very smart. Is that linked website for real? I honestly don’t know.

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2011, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-conservapedia-fun-scientific-theory-is-a-just-the-secularized-version-of-the-word-heresy/584322/45 "2011-06-05T21:58:49Z")

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I feel I must practice some good conservative speech – you know, just to expand my horizons and be able to communicate effectively with some of my fellow Americans. Please critique me when I make mistakes.

Ahem.

“I was playing pool with John the other day, and he sure had a Providence when he sunk three balls with his first shot!”

“I was painting my house last weekend, and I made an abomination when I confused the blue and yellow paint cans. Whoops!” (Question: in this statement, is it clear that confusing the paint colors didn’t result in the birth of a homosexual?)

“In the Old West, a fellow could get shot for adultery in a poker game.”

“I was gettin’ all hot and heavy with this chick, then she told me she was a young woman and I felt compelled to stop!”

“Ever hum that tune, Miraculous Grace?”

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**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2011, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-conservapedia-fun-scientific-theory-is-a-just-the-secularized-version-of-the-word-heresy/584322/46 "2011-06-05T22:35:07Z")

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God bless you, Bless you Gesundheit God bless you, Bless you Gesundheit God bless you -\> Gesundheit

Aren’t those exactly the same only one is in German? When did German become Liberalized English? Do the Germans know we did this or is it a spoil of war for winning WW2 under the liberal Truman?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2011, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-conservapedia-fun-scientific-theory-is-a-just-the-secularized-version-of-the-word-heresy/584322/47 "2011-06-05T22:44:45Z")

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Its a subtlety of language. The Engish/American “God bless you!” implies a God entreated to shed a special ration of loving grace upon you. The German form is more along the lines of a subordinate’s request to his commanding officer. More of a requisition than a prayer.

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**Author:** ![fachverwirrt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/94ad74/32.png) [@fachverwirrt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fachverwirrt)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2011, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-conservapedia-fun-scientific-theory-is-a-just-the-secularized-version-of-the-word-heresy/584322/48 "2011-06-05T23:13:56Z")

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> [@Death\_of\_Rats](#):
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> God bless you, Bless you Gesundheit God bless you, Bless you Gesundheit God bless you -\> Gesundheit
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> Aren’t those exactly the same only one is in German? When did German become Liberalized English? Do the Germans know we did this or is it a spoil of war for winning WW2 under the liberal Truman?

“Gesundheit” just means “health”. Nothing about god or blessing.

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2011, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-conservapedia-fun-scientific-theory-is-a-just-the-secularized-version-of-the-word-heresy/584322/49 "2011-06-05T23:54:39Z")

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> [@LouisB](#):
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> I’m old, easily confused, easy to fool and not very smart. Is that linked website for real? I honestly don’t know.

My take it was created to be serious, but that the vast majority of the content is sarcastic.

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**Author:** ![colonial](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/34f0e0/32.png) [@colonial](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/colonial)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2011, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-conservapedia-fun-scientific-theory-is-a-just-the-secularized-version-of-the-word-heresy/584322/50 "2011-06-06T00:25:25Z")

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I thought I would have some fun by creating a Cpedia account and seeing how long it would take to really piss them off.

I started off by trying to add this to the “General Examples” section of the “Secularized Language” article:

Fornicate:Fuck

“Fuck” did not make it past their filter, so I tried “F\*ck”, and it took.

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**Author:** ![DorkVader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/73ab20/32.png) [@DorkVader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DorkVader)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2011, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-conservapedia-fun-scientific-theory-is-a-just-the-secularized-version-of-the-word-heresy/584322/51 "2011-06-06T05:21:22Z")

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How in the heck do you people find these sites??? My goodness I have never seen such a load of ignorance in my life:eek:! I’m reading this thread and checked out the site linked in the OP and man I gotta tell ya, my conservative face is red with both fury and embarrasment:mad::o (its a liberal conspiracy its gotta be) OY!! yes if this tripe was posted by someone who thinks they are a conservative it does deserve ridicule. Heck I aint the sharpest knife in the set and by today’s standards barely educated but good greif this junk isn’t conservatism its ignorant garbage spewed forth by a mind that is closed, ignorant, bigoted, probably racist etc. :(sigh, it was easier to count the few things, that from my reading and study of the protestant christian bible (KJV and NKJV) only, that seemed correct than it was to count up the errors on that site.  
😕wanders off muttering about world ending and agreeing with a bunch of pinko commie liberals:confused:

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**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2011, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-conservapedia-fun-scientific-theory-is-a-just-the-secularized-version-of-the-word-heresy/584322/52 "2011-06-06T06:05:01Z")

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> [@LouisB](#):
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> I’m old, easily confused, easy to fool and not very smart. Is that linked website for real? I honestly don’t know.

Any honest intelligent person would be somewhat unsure about how best to answer this question. It was started by Andy Schafly, as mentioned, who is probably about as screwed up as the site implies given who his mother is. However, it immediately attracted a lot of trolling, some of it so subtle it’s impossible to tell the trolling from the genuine insanity that is that form of ultra-conservative religious nonsense.

That, incidentally, is what Poe’s Law is: By Poe’s Law, it is impossible to always tell what’s trolling and what is genuine nuttery, because as nuts as a given troll is it’s always possible to find someone who is both absolutely genuine and even crazier.

So it likely has at least a few genuine contributors, a few obvious trolls due to be banned soon, and, at least as per rumors, a few really subtle long-term trolls Andy and crew think are contributing in good faith.

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**Author:** ![waterj2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/858c86/32.png) [@waterj2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/waterj2)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2011, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-conservapedia-fun-scientific-theory-is-a-just-the-secularized-version-of-the-word-heresy/584322/53 "2011-06-06T06:11:40Z")

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> [@guestchaz](#):
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> sigh, it was easier to count the few things, that from my reading and study of the protestant christian bible (KJV and NKJV) only, that seemed correct than it was to count up the errors on that site.

Well, they’ve got the [Conservative Bible Project](http://www.conservapedia.com/Conservative_Bible_Project) to help you out there, although it’s not done yet. That one really makes we want to bang my head on a table while futilely shouting “THAT’S NOT HOW IT WORKS!”

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**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2011, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-conservapedia-fun-scientific-theory-is-a-just-the-secularized-version-of-the-word-heresy/584322/54 "2011-06-06T06:20:06Z")

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> [@waterj2](#):
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> Well, they’ve got the [Conservative Bible Project](http://www.conservapedia.com/Conservative_Bible_Project) to help you out there, although it’s not done yet. That one really makes we want to bang my head on a table while futilely shouting “THAT’S NOT HOW IT WORKS!”

I have to say I support this.

They aren’t going to change what they believe. They think the Bible already supports them, but they only get that support by a process of very dishonest selective reading.

If the Conservative Bible Project comes to fruition, it will be the book they actually believe in. They won’t be abusing a work that means something entirely different in order to justify themselves. It might also give other Christians the impetus they need to stop supporting that branch of the lunatic fringe and deny them access to power.

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**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2011, 8:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-conservapedia-fun-scientific-theory-is-a-just-the-secularized-version-of-the-word-heresy/584322/55 "2011-06-06T08:39:55Z")

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Fun Conservapedia tip: The best crazy is often in the talk pages.

For instance, take the [talk page](http://www.conservapedia.com/Talk:Essay:Best_New_Conservative_Words) for Best New Conservative Words entry. “BenjyB” objects to the inclusion of the word “[decrypt](http://www.conservapedia.com/Talk:Essay:Best_New_Conservative_Words#Decrypt)” on the grounds that … well, best to read it for yourself. This exchange actually took place:

> [@BenjyB](#):
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> Can I challenge ‘decrypt’ as a conservative word? Take the greatest decryption exercise in history, the breaking of the German Enigma code in World War 2 by British and Polish cryptographers. Alan Turing, who made the crucial breakthrough, was homosexual. Several others involved may have been communist sympathisers. The great majority were recruited from either the civil service (= Big Government) or universities (= Professor Values) and returned to those professions when WW2 was over. Bottom line: not a very conservative bunch.

> [@Andy Schlafly](#):
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> Beware of liberal revisionism, where historians try to give credit to liberals for achievements no matter how unjustified. It was Polish mathematicians who decrypted the enigma, not an Englishman. The British are notoriously weak in mathematics.

And it fucking goes from there.

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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2011, 11:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-conservapedia-fun-scientific-theory-is-a-just-the-secularized-version-of-the-word-heresy/584322/56 "2011-06-06T11:52:43Z")

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I honestly hope the whole thing is one gigantic trolling action. I mean, I don’t _want_ to believe that people are that stupid. ☹

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**Author:** ![sqweels](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f19dbf/32.png) [@sqweels](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sqweels)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2011, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-conservapedia-fun-scientific-theory-is-a-just-the-secularized-version-of-the-word-heresy/584322/57 "2011-06-07T00:21:07Z")

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The real question is, to what extent do conservatives embrace Conservapedia and to what extent are they embarrassed by it insomuch as it’s representing their movement?

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2011, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-conservapedia-fun-scientific-theory-is-a-just-the-secularized-version-of-the-word-heresy/584322/58 "2011-06-07T01:01:33Z")

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> [@sqweels](#):
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> The real question is, to what extent do conservatives embrace Conservapedia and to what extent are they embarrassed by it insomuch as it’s representing their movement?

I’m no fan of conservative thought, but I see no indication that a significant amount of conservative embrace it, nor any need for the conservatives to fear that anybody with half a brain thinks those imbeciles represent their movement.

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**Author:** ![DorkVader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/73ab20/32.png) [@DorkVader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DorkVader)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2011, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-conservapedia-fun-scientific-theory-is-a-just-the-secularized-version-of-the-word-heresy/584322/59 "2011-06-07T03:23:05Z")

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I second Revtim, I’m considered the reactionary in a mostly conservative family and not even I can swallow this load of bovine excrement and don’t know anyone in my circle of freinds who would either (I think, there is that one guy though…) but just because I’m conservative and have no formal higher education, I am intelligent and I can read. (well I think im intelligent, man I just made myself look stupid) anyway, conservapedia, thats not conservatism, thats an emotional illogical knee jerk based on superstition, ignorance and fear. mostly ignorance.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2011, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-conservapedia-fun-scientific-theory-is-a-just-the-secularized-version-of-the-word-heresy/584322/60 "2011-06-07T03:27:17Z")

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> [@guestchaz](#):
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> thats an emotional illogical knee jerk based on superstition, ignorance and fear. mostly ignorance.

Conservatism, then?

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