# More D&D on the SDMB? **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [December 31, 2013, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-d-d-on-the-sdmb/677527 "2013-12-31T00:41:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2014, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-d-d-on-the-sdmb/677527/141 "2014-01-06T04:46:34Z")
Since we’re using the advanced rulebook, will we be using traits? ---
**Author:** ![appleciders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85f322/32.png) [@appleciders](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/appleciders)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2014, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-d-d-on-the-sdmb/677527/142 "2014-01-06T21:21:23Z")
Yes; everyone gets two traits. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2014, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-d-d-on-the-sdmb/677527/143 "2014-01-06T23:46:52Z")
> [@appleciders](#): > > With this party, I particularly agree. If the fight goes on for four rounds, you folks are in trouble. The sucker punch will be your best friend. Well, with any luck **Calatin** ’s going for a high AC/Compel Hostility/enchantment focus sort of build, synergistic-like. If not, yeah, I expect we’ll have to hit people hard and fast and HARD :). Optimized parties are for chumps, anyway. Speaking of which, that silly band I alluded to earlier, with the weird monk, bad bard, bad alchemist and rogue, all lvl 7 ? They hit upon a bit of a snag on Saturday and managed to aggro an Erynie with its 2 Barbed Devil summons and plenty of room to fly, shoot and scoot ; 6 lvl. 4 rogues AND a lvl 10 sorcerer all at once. They prevailed. Had to crack a Heal scroll they’d scrounged up earlier, but still, I was kind of amazed. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2014, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-d-d-on-the-sdmb/677527/144 "2014-01-07T00:08:55Z")
OK, I’m finally done with my character sheet! Sorry for the delay. Appleciders, is the gmail account in your profile valid? I would like to send you my sheet as an attachment. ---
**Author:** ![appleciders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85f322/32.png) [@appleciders](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/appleciders)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2014, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-d-d-on-the-sdmb/677527/145 "2014-01-07T01:09:54Z")
Yes, it is. I’ll have a look. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2014, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-d-d-on-the-sdmb/677527/146 "2014-01-07T01:15:46Z")
OK, sent. I would be happy to make reasonable revisions. I don’t have a lot of experience with Pathfinder though after mucking about with it I can see why people think it’s an improvement over 3.5 (Basically D&D 3.75) ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2014, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-d-d-on-the-sdmb/677527/147 "2014-01-07T01:23:49Z")
I’ll be finalizing mine within the next 24 hours (mainly equipment and a few other odds and ends)… ---
**Author:** ![G0sp3l](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c68b51/32.png) [@G0sp3l](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/G0sp3l)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2014, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-d-d-on-the-sdmb/677527/148 "2014-01-07T04:59:18Z")
I just sent a pm with my revised character. I add two traits and some equipment I think I would reasonably possess. ---
**Author:** ![appleciders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85f322/32.png) [@appleciders](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/appleciders)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2014, 6:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-d-d-on-the-sdmb/677527/149 "2014-01-07T06:43:07Z")
OK! We’re either there or within spitting distance for everyone except **Calatin**. **Calatin** , are you still in? If now is a bad time, I can let the next alternate start the game, and contact you when another slot opens up. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2014, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-d-d-on-the-sdmb/677527/150 "2014-01-07T18:02:14Z")
I spent a lot of time mulling over the various bard options in the advanced book and looking at different suggested builds to make bards more combat-capable, but there’s no real way for a bard to become a “kind-of-something-else” without losing most or all of the skillful/charismatic stuff that makes them bardy and that would just create a gap of a different sort in the party makeup. Sent the revised character sheet to appleciders and I’m ready to go! ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2014, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-d-d-on-the-sdmb/677527/151 "2014-01-07T18:28:44Z")
Then do that as you go up levels. I too built my guy (are we all guys here? Would love a female PC…) based almost entirely on roleplaying potential, and not from a munchkin point of view… ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2014, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-d-d-on-the-sdmb/677527/152 "2014-01-07T18:34:44Z")
I’ve had a look at Traits and I wish to add: [spoiler] ```auto Magical Talent (cast *Message* once per day) Meticulous Concoction (add +2 to the save DC of one bomb per day *or* 2 rounds to the duration of a non-instantaneous extract). ``` [/spoiler] ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2014, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-d-d-on-the-sdmb/677527/153 "2014-01-07T19:06:14Z")
I need to revise my stats, using the point-bye system, but I should be good to go, unless there’s another problem with my Character sheet. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2014, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-d-d-on-the-sdmb/677527/154 "2014-01-07T19:10:13Z")
> [@Malacandra](#): > > I’ve had a look at Traits and I wish to add: [spoiler] > > ```auto > > Magical Talent (cast *Message* once per day) > Meticulous Concoction (add +2 to the save DC of one bomb per day *or* 2 rounds to the duration of a non-instantaneous extract). > > ``` > > [/spoiler] Unless I’m mistaken, those are both Magic traits. You cannot have two traits picked from the same category (Combat, Faith, Magic, Social or Race). ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2014, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-d-d-on-the-sdmb/677527/155 "2014-01-07T19:16:32Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > Unless I’m mistaken, those are both Magic traits. You cannot have two traits picked from the same category (Combat, Faith, Magic, Social or Race). You’re not mistaken, I didn’t notice that part. I’ll take “Surprise Weapon” instead of “Meticulous Concoction” then - improvising weapons could be amusing. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2014, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-d-d-on-the-sdmb/677527/156 "2014-01-07T19:21:22Z")
Haha, oh that’ll bring me back. Back in the days when I played _7th Sea_, there was a not-French swordsmanship school focused on improvised weaponry. The first tier more or less negated the penalties for using them and that’s about it ; but by the upper tiers your character could become deadlier fighting with a ham than with an actual sword 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2014, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-d-d-on-the-sdmb/677527/157 "2014-01-07T19:30:17Z")
In a Pathfinder campaign a friend of mine is running, one of the PCs is a halfling ninja/alchemist who’s disguised as the party’s cook, and who fights entirely with kitchen implements. He’s got a feat or a class feature that allows him to add his sneak attack damage to attacks with improvised weapons, provided he succeeds at a bluff check first. He’s surprisingly deadly, especially since he picked up that adamantine ladle. ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2014, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-d-d-on-the-sdmb/677527/158 "2014-01-07T21:49:12Z")
And I must remember that _Throw Anything_ nets me an extra +1 with splash weapons, of which I may possibly tote a few around with me. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2014, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-d-d-on-the-sdmb/677527/159 "2014-01-07T22:14:31Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > especially since he picked up that adamantine ladle. Now that’s an item that has to have had a fascinating backstory. “Gather round, heroes of the world ! A stone has fallen from the stars, bearing a few ounces of precious metal, the most durable the world has ever seen. What shall we do with it ?” - We dwarves could forge a mighty armour with it, such as a god would wear. The man wearing that armour would become nigh-invincible ! - Nonsense. You’d only make it too small. We elves have the knowledge to make a magical sword with it, that could slay even the mighty Dragons ! Oh, and if the dwarves get it, we’ll sulk and it’s war. - You wot ? If the elves get the metal, it’s war too ! - Meh, elven swords are too lithe anyway, no heft at all. Pansy stuff. We humans would bond the metal to the bones of a regenerating half-troll mutant with a bad attitude, using wildly unethical means to do so. Then unleash him for shady world domination murder business as convenient. - Yeaaaaah let’s pencil that one as a “maybe”, ok ? How about you Bilbo ? - We halflings could make a soup spoon with it. Maybe even a ladle. But, you know, a very _good_ ladle that’d never bend while ladling soup. - Do hobbit ladles typically bend ?! - Not really. Far as I know that has never happened. - … what the hell. All in favour of not letting the humans anywhere near the stuff ? The ayes have it. Make the fucking ladle." ---
**Author:** ![G0sp3l](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c68b51/32.png) [@G0sp3l](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/G0sp3l)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2014, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-d-d-on-the-sdmb/677527/160 "2014-01-07T22:15:12Z")
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