# More dating tips for the sartorially clueless **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [August 23, 2006, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-dating-tips-for-the-sartorially-clueless/369896 "2006-08-23T16:16:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Cardinal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardinal/32/4000_2.png) [@Cardinal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardinal)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2006, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-dating-tips-for-the-sartorially-clueless/369896/101 "2006-08-25T01:27:45Z")
Come on, we all know MSN is so hip it has difficulty seeing over my pelvis, right? I mean, anything controlled by Bill Gates has to be coooool… ---
**Author:** ![Gozu\_Tashoya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/7993a0/32.png) [@Gozu\_Tashoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gozu_Tashoya)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2006, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-dating-tips-for-the-sartorially-clueless/369896/102 "2006-08-25T01:35:03Z")
[QUOTE=Spectre of Pithecanthropus] I don’t get it either, unless they mean, “do you like the kind of music that will likely be blasting in the shop where you go to buy the jeans?” On the other hand, I do know what brand and what style I’m wearing right now. These things are important to me; when I find jeans that I like, I want to get the same ones next time. [/QUOTE] I’m being slightly facetious, but if anything less than 90% of indie-rock musicians wear pants other than a very slim-fitting, rather light wash of jeans that generally makes them look like they weigh \<110 pounds, I’ll eat an eggplant (and I really hate eggplant). ---
**Author:** ![Cowgirl\_Jules](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4af34b/32.png) [@Cowgirl\_Jules](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cowgirl_Jules)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2006, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-dating-tips-for-the-sartorially-clueless/369896/103 "2006-08-25T02:11:59Z")
[QUOTE=mrklutz] Hmmm. Color me curious. Why the dislike of cowboy boots? I ask because I’ve worn boots every day for the past 20+ years unless I’m wearing shorts or going hiking. They’re basic black, nothing flashy – in fact, they look much like motorcycle boots but with a more traditional western shape. I decided ages ago that I like them, even though I don’t go in for any other country-type apparel or even country music. [/QUOTE] No worries; for every woman who doesn’t like boots (or any other particular item of clothing), there’s another one of us who likes them just fine. Even with shorts and while in a bass boat. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![BMalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@BMalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMalion)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2006, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-dating-tips-for-the-sartorially-clueless/369896/104 "2006-08-25T13:40:05Z")
[QUOTE=Pixisis] got any photographic evidence ?? 😉 [/QUOTE] Nothing photographic that’s of an electronic scottish nature, but I will try to find a friend who can scan and post some photos. But here’s a [shot](http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/alby4299/detail?.dir=7241&.dnm=a3ca.jpg&.src=ph) of me and **Samclem** at a Dopefest last year. ---
**Author:** ![Sal\_Ammoniac](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8dc957/32.png) [@Sal\_Ammoniac](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sal_Ammoniac)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2006, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-dating-tips-for-the-sartorially-clueless/369896/105 "2006-08-25T14:20:53Z")
Can I hijack a little here to say how much I like **Robot Arm** ’s skull-covered Hawaiian shirt? I want one. It would seem to neutralize any amount of khaki. Oh, and **Mr. Arm** – pay up. Seems you’re in danger of slipping into the khaki-clad purgatory of “guest” status. ---
**Author:** ![Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spectre_of_pithecanthropus/32/12343_2.png) [@Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spectre_of_Pithecanthropus)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2006, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-dating-tips-for-the-sartorially-clueless/369896/106 "2006-08-25T17:18:38Z")
[QUOTE=Grossbottom] Sounds like advice on how to dress for a church retreat. Ooo, sexy: tucked in dark jeans and white sneakers. The babies just can’t keep their hands off ya. [/QUOTE] Tucking in shows the world you don’t have a flabby belly to hide, if that applies to you. I’ve been married for 10 years so I’m way out of the game too, but if I were single and dating I’m not sure wearing a tentlike shirt over everything would be the best move. And casual shirts can be tentlike. I bought a hemp-fiber T on the Venice Boardwalk a few years ago, and it came down to mid-thigh. I had to take it to a tailer and have three inches taken off. ---
**Author:** ![Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spectre_of_pithecanthropus/32/12343_2.png) [@Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spectre_of_Pithecanthropus)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2006, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-dating-tips-for-the-sartorially-clueless/369896/107 "2006-08-25T17:28:44Z")
[QUOTE=DianaG] Oh god, Birkenstocks. I’d actually like to amend my previous post to include sandals. All sandals. Or mandals, if you will. I don’t care if they’re Birkenstocks, Tevas, flip flops, or those horrible leather "fashion"mandals, men should not wear open-toed shoes away from the beach. Ever. [/QUOTE] I’d like to inform you that I’m wearing Birkenstocks right now. I wouldn’t usually wear them to the office, even on Casual Friday, but I have an injured toe and they’re more comfortable that way. Birkenstocks are simply practical in the summer. No one’s given me a good explanation regarding why women get away with sockless open shoes and sandals all. the. time. and. everywhere. and men are expected to always. wear. full-coverage. shoes. and. socks. Even in summer. Why does having a Y chromosome (is that right?) mean you can’t be comfortable? ---
**Author:** ![Surly\_Chick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@Surly\_Chick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Surly_Chick)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2006, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-dating-tips-for-the-sartorially-clueless/369896/108 "2006-08-25T17:36:10Z")
Because men have really, really, ugly feet which should be kept covered at all times. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2006, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-dating-tips-for-the-sartorially-clueless/369896/109 "2006-08-25T17:52:01Z")
What \*\*Surly Chick \*\* said. No pedicure, no sandals, period. Now, to be fair, some men may get regular pedicures, in which case I suppose they should be allowed to wear sandals. Many women don’t, and shouldn’t. ---
**Author:** ![BMalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@BMalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMalion)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2006, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-dating-tips-for-the-sartorially-clueless/369896/110 "2006-08-25T17:56:59Z")
[QUOTE=Surly Chick] Because men have really, really, ugly feet which should be kept covered at all times. 😃 [/QUOTE] True, I myself have particularly large, hair-covered hobbit feet. ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2006, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-dating-tips-for-the-sartorially-clueless/369896/111 "2006-08-25T17:57:38Z")
[QUOTE=Surly Chick] Because men have really, really, ugly feet which should be kept covered at all times. 😃 [/QUOTE] I dunno – my feet are pretty freakin’ ugly, and I wear sandals all summer. ---
**Author:** ![Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spectre_of_pithecanthropus/32/12343_2.png) [@Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spectre_of_Pithecanthropus)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2006, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-dating-tips-for-the-sartorially-clueless/369896/112 "2006-08-25T17:59:31Z")
[QUOTE=Surly Chick] Because men have really, really, ugly feet which should be kept covered at all times. 😃 [/QUOTE] It’s anti-objectification I tell you. Women complain about being objectified as something to look at; we guys are being increasingly _anti-objectified_ by being told we have to cover up because our bodies are too hideous to look at. Obviously a lot of guys do look better when covered up as much as possible, and some guys do have gross toenail disorders and should stick to shoes, but to have that aesthetic dictated to all of us really sucks. You’d have freaked if you’d lived through the 70s. Guys’ toes and bare thighs were in plain view all over the place. I’ve only been hearing about this sandal thing for the past couple of years; are the Birkenstock shops going to switch soon to cater only to women? If so I’d better buy a couple more pairs. ---
**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2006, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-dating-tips-for-the-sartorially-clueless/369896/113 "2006-08-25T18:03:57Z")
I like a man in just socks, myself. ---
**Author:** ![Surly\_Chick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@Surly\_Chick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Surly_Chick)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2006, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-dating-tips-for-the-sartorially-clueless/369896/114 "2006-08-25T18:05:15Z")
[QUOTE=Spectre of Pithecanthropus] It’s anti-objectification I tell you. Women complain about being objectified as something to look at; we guys are being increasingly _anti-objectified_ by being told we have to cover up because our bodies are too hideous to look at. Obviously a lot of guys do look better when covered up as much as possible, and some guys do have gross toenail disorders and should stick to shoes, but to have that aesthetic dictated to all of us really sucks. You’d have freaked if you’d lived through the 70s. Guys’ toes and bare thighs were in plain view all over the place. [/QUOTE] Sweetcheeks, I lived thru the 70’s - had Farrah hair and the whole nine yards. And I believe toe socks were invented during that decade. Specifically with men in mind… 😃 ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2006, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-dating-tips-for-the-sartorially-clueless/369896/115 "2006-08-25T18:10:49Z")
[QUOTE=Surly Chick] Sweetcheeks… [/QUOTE] Sorry, I believe the current preferred term is “sugartits.” ---
**Author:** ![Surly\_Chick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@Surly\_Chick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Surly_Chick)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2006, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-dating-tips-for-the-sartorially-clueless/369896/116 "2006-08-25T18:12:02Z")
[QUOTE=twickster] Sorry, I believe the current preferred term is “sugartits.” [/QUOTE] Can one call a man “sugartits?” ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2006, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-dating-tips-for-the-sartorially-clueless/369896/117 "2006-08-25T18:19:09Z")
[QUOTE=Surly Chick] Can one call a man “sugartits?” [/QUOTE] It’s the '00s – why not? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2006, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-dating-tips-for-the-sartorially-clueless/369896/118 "2006-08-25T18:20:47Z")
[QUOTE=Sal Ammoniac] Can I hijack a little here to say how much I like **Robot Arm** ’s skull-covered Hawaiian shirt? I want one. It would seem to neutralize any amount of khaki. [/quote] Thanks. [Here](http://www.hotshirts.com/get_item_ph425.htm) you go. Although I notice it has not generated quite as much swoonage among the doperettes as I would have hoped for. > [@](#): > > Oh, and **Mr. Arm** – pay up. Seems you’re in danger of slipping into the khaki-clad purgatory of “guest” status. Yeah, I just got the renewal e-mail a day or two ago and was blocked from the site today. I re-upped. How did you know I was on borrowed time anyway? ---
**Author:** ![BMalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@BMalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMalion)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2006, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-dating-tips-for-the-sartorially-clueless/369896/119 "2006-08-25T18:36:13Z")
[QUOTE=Surly Chick] Can one call a man “sugartits?” [/QUOTE] Some men, yes. On formal occaisions I prefer “Angelbumps”. ---
**Author:** ![Sal\_Ammoniac](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8dc957/32.png) [@Sal\_Ammoniac](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sal_Ammoniac)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2006, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-dating-tips-for-the-sartorially-clueless/369896/120 "2006-08-25T19:39:20Z")
[QUOTE=Robot Arm] I re-upped. How did you know I was on borrowed time anyway? [/QUOTE] The telltale “guest” was appearing there under your name for a bit. Glad to see it’s gone. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-dating-tips-for-the-sartorially-clueless/369896.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-dating-tips-for-the-sartorially-clueless/369896.md?page=7)