# More Doper Diet Data - Which Vegetables Do You Dislike (Poll)? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** food-cooking\ **Created:** [October 25, 2023, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-doper-diet-data-which-vegetables-do-you-dislike-poll/992085 "2023-10-25T16:31:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2023, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-doper-diet-data-which-vegetables-do-you-dislike-poll/992085/81 "2023-10-26T03:20:19Z")
Interesting. I picked one of about 8 articles that said Leggett developed butternut squash in 1944. Fwiw, Wikipedia kinda agrees both that it’s a hybrid and also that it’s moschata. > **[Butternut squash](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butternut_squash)** > > Butternut squash (Cucurbita moschata), known in Australia and New Zealand as butternut pumpkin or gramma, is a type of winter squash that grows on a vine. It has a sweet, nutty taste similar to that of a pumpkin. It has tan-yellow skin and orange fleshy pulp with a compartment of seeds in the blossom end. When ripe, it turns increasingly deep orange, and becomes sweeter and richer. It is a good source of fiber, vitamin C, magnesium, and potassium; and it is a source of vitamin A. > Although bota... Also, it seems that all the squashes interbreed. Seed savers is usually reliable, though. ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2023, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-doper-diet-data-which-vegetables-do-you-dislike-poll/992085/82 "2023-10-26T03:45:26Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > Interesting. I picked one of about 8 articles that said Leggett developed butternut squash in 1944. That article said that he specifically developed Waltham. Maybe he developed some other strain. It seems pretty unlikely that he did so by crossing a crookneck pepo with a maxima and somehow winding up with a moschata, though. Or that he developed butternut squash in general; Fedco says that was introduced in 1936 by Joseph Breck and Sons of Boston “out of Canada Crookneck, an 1800’s variety.” – that probably wasn’t the pepo crooknecks I got when I looked up gooseneck squash, though. Hudson Valley Seeds says they carry Canada Crookneck, and they say it is moschata, and it sure has a butternut look to it except for the neck shape: > **[Canada Crookneck Squash](https://hudsonvalleyseed.com/products/canada-crookneck-squash)** > > These long-necked butternut-type squash boast glorious, uninterrupted stretches of pure squash flesh: sweet, tender, golden orange, ambrosial. Just chop into lengths, split in half, and roast. The curving necks also add lots of interest to the... Maybe some people also call those gooseneck, and we can leave the pepos out of it. In which case, my guess is that Leggett invented some other strain of butternut squash, not Waltham; and he either bred it out of other butternuts, or bred it out of Canada Crookneck or something similar; possibly thinking he’d crossed it with a maxima, and not realizing that the cross didn’t take and that what he actually had was a straight-necked mutation of the Canada Crookneck, or a cross with some other moschata. ETA: Some modern strains of butternut are hybrids, in the modern sense of seed from the F1 generation that may not come true to type in the next generation. Waltham is open pollinated, though, as are some other strains. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2023, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-doper-diet-data-which-vegetables-do-you-dislike-poll/992085/83 "2023-10-26T04:19:08Z")
The amount of kale is varied to taste. I’ve had highly kaley versions, and other where it was nearly kaleless. It’s very similar to Tuscan Potato and Spinach soup. Apparently the sausage and potato neutralize the evil essence of kale. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2023, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-doper-diet-data-which-vegetables-do-you-dislike-poll/992085/84 "2023-10-26T04:22:18Z")
I hate kale. But a little bit in a soup would probably be fine. Still, if i WANT greens in a soup, i use chard. Chard tastes good, unlike kale. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2023, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-doper-diet-data-which-vegetables-do-you-dislike-poll/992085/85 "2023-10-26T04:50:25Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > Still, if i WANT greens in a soup, i use chard. Chard tastes good, unlike kale. Well, yeah. But if you’re making Portuguese Kale soup people kind of expect it to have some kale in it. But no law I ever heard of says you can’t make Portuguese Chard soup if feel like it. ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2023, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-doper-diet-data-which-vegetables-do-you-dislike-poll/992085/86 "2023-10-26T04:56:35Z")
Literally only kale from that list and that is less than a burning hatred than it is a mild distaste (mostly for that tough, chewy texture). I’ll tolerate kale side dishes enough to give them a decent shot. There are a few others that weren’t listed that fall into that same general ‘mild distaste’ basket. Things like some of the more bitter greens, like collared or mustard, that I don’t love but will still eat. But really I don’t have any serious vegetable aversions. My food aversions tend to run to things like certain strong fermented/decomposed flavors. I rather dislike many of the really funky washed-rind cheeses for example. And it will be a cold day in hell before I eat balut. But fresh vegetables generally are almost never an issue. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2023, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-doper-diet-data-which-vegetables-do-you-dislike-poll/992085/87 "2023-10-26T05:37:42Z")
> [@Tamerlane](#): > > My food aversions tend to run to things like certain strong fermented/decomposed flavors. I rather dislike many of the really funky washed-rind cheeses for example. And it will be a cold day in hell before I eat balut. Balut aren’t fermented. Maybe you’re thinking of century (100 year) eggs. Those can be kind of smelly. ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2023, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-doper-diet-data-which-vegetables-do-you-dislike-poll/992085/88 "2023-10-26T13:55:40Z")
‘Russian’ kale in borshch - oh, my! That’s lovely! ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2023, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-doper-diet-data-which-vegetables-do-you-dislike-poll/992085/89 "2023-10-26T14:15:01Z")
I voted beetroot. I don’t hate it but I avoid it unless I’m feeling adventurous because much too often it tastes like mud. But sometimes it doesn’t, which is why I give it a try from time to time. ---
**Author:** ![Crafter\_Man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crafter_man/32/458_2.png) [@Crafter\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crafter_Man)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2023, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-doper-diet-data-which-vegetables-do-you-dislike-poll/992085/90 "2023-10-26T14:19:11Z")
I like most vegetables, but have always had a strong dislike of tomatoes, mushrooms, and olives. A coworker brought in a dish with okra in it. She picked it from her garden. I thought it was delicious. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2023, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-doper-diet-data-which-vegetables-do-you-dislike-poll/992085/91 "2023-10-26T14:51:35Z")
I put celery, because I don’t like it in anything where I can taste it. As part of a mirepoix I can stand it, although I prefer a good soffritto nowadays anyway. Any other veg, I’m good with. ---
**Author:** ![jnglmassiv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f07891/32.png) [@jnglmassiv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jnglmassiv)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2023, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-doper-diet-data-which-vegetables-do-you-dislike-poll/992085/92 "2023-10-26T15:10:25Z")
> [@Tamerlane](#): > > And it will be a cold day in hell before I eat balut. I’ve tried it. Balut tastes like you’d expect, eggy & bland steamed blood/meat, not good but not revolting. The texture can go right back to hell: bones, feathers, slime, yolk. I had a difficult time choking down a couple token bites. ---
**Author:** ![Kron](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kron/32/12444_2.png) [@Kron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kron)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2023, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-doper-diet-data-which-vegetables-do-you-dislike-poll/992085/93 "2023-10-26T15:56:27Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > I put celery, because I don’t like it in anything where I can taste it. Good call. I added that as well; it’s fine in a stew where it has softened and lost it’s flavor, but I can’t stand the taste of celery. Bitter and inedible. ---
**Author:** ![Treppenwitz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treppenwitz/32/3445_2.png) [@Treppenwitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Treppenwitz)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2023, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-doper-diet-data-which-vegetables-do-you-dislike-poll/992085/94 "2023-10-26T18:02:24Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > Also, it seems that all the squashes interbreed. At risk of hijacking, I grow courgettes, cucumbers, butternut squash and pumpkins (all cucurbits) together on my allotment and several times the squash or pumpkin plants have produced unidentifiable fruits. I have never tried to eat one - perhaps I should. j ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2023, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-doper-diet-data-which-vegetables-do-you-dislike-poll/992085/95 "2023-10-26T18:48:11Z")
> [@Treppenwitz](#): > > several times the squash or pumpkin plants have produced unidentifiable fruits. I have never tried to eat one - perhaps I should. Go ahead and try them. If they taste good, they ought to be OK. If they taste bad in any way, don’t eat more than the bite it took you to figure that out. In particular, cucurbits in general can produce a compound called cucurbitacin, which is very bitter, and eating very much of which can cause significant digestive problems; but a bite or two is unlikely to hurt you, and if the particular cross you’re trying to eat has a high level of it one bite is all you’re likely to want to take. ---
**Author:** ![BetsQ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/fbc32d/32.png) [@BetsQ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BetsQ)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2023, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-doper-diet-data-which-vegetables-do-you-dislike-poll/992085/96 "2023-10-26T19:36:35Z")
I selected eggplant (so gross) and horseradish. I had no idea horseradish is a vegetable, but I know that I don’t even want to be in the same room as horseradish sauce. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2023, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-doper-diet-data-which-vegetables-do-you-dislike-poll/992085/97 "2023-10-26T19:43:18Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > Does anyone eat carrot greens? My Mother used to, all sorts of “greens” especially turnip greens. Boiled to death, of course. (As a child of the Depression and a farm, you eat everything and waste nothing, but also boil it to death). > [@TriPolar](#): > > Okra can’t be deslimed. It’s disgusting. I won’t eat it all by itself- ecchh- but in a gumbo- yum! > [@TriPolar](#): > > Apparently the sausage and potato neutralize the evil essence of kale. Yep. Again not a fan of it all by itself, but in a mixed green salad, it is okay, and in a good soup it’s fine. ---
**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2023, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-doper-diet-data-which-vegetables-do-you-dislike-poll/992085/98 "2023-10-26T19:50:52Z")
The cucurbit/squash discussion is interesting. (I had no idea there could possibly be any risk associated with eating random cross-breeds). I’m growing kabocha and have about three squash that will soon be ready to pick (that is A LOT of squash - not sure what I’ll do with them all, especially as more will be ripening). Kabocha is somewhat different from other winter squashes; the taste and texture are often likened to sweet potato. Very delicious in any case. Any squash haters reading this who have never had kabocha might want to give it a nibble if you ever get a chance. ---
**Author:** ![jnglmassiv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f07891/32.png) [@jnglmassiv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jnglmassiv)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2023, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-doper-diet-data-which-vegetables-do-you-dislike-poll/992085/99 "2023-10-26T19:55:21Z")
> [@BetsQ](#): > > I had no idea horseradish is a vegetable Yop, it’s the root of one of our Brassica friends. You grate it like ginger. [Horseradish - Wikipedia](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horseradish#/media/File%3AKren_Verkauf.jpg) ---
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and flee the area, onions have nothing on the face melting ability of the horseradish. it’s like raiders of the lost ark. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-doper-diet-data-which-vegetables-do-you-dislike-poll/992085.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-doper-diet-data-which-vegetables-do-you-dislike-poll/992085.md?page=6)