# More evidence certain religious types are fooking nuts. (RO) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 1, 2008, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-evidence-certain-religious-types-are-fooking-nuts-ro/454966 "2008-07-01T21:30:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2008, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-evidence-certain-religious-types-are-fooking-nuts-ro/454966/1 "2008-07-01T21:30:52Z")
[Link.](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1030798/Muslims-outraged-police-advert-featuring-cute-puppy-sitting-policemans-hat.html#) Fucking deport the bastards. Or refuse to answer any of their calls/complaints. Either acculturate or get the fuck out! ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Scrappy\_Hero\_Pup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ea5d25/32.png) [@Happy\_Scrappy\_Hero\_Pup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Scrappy_Hero_Pup)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2008, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-evidence-certain-religious-types-are-fooking-nuts-ro/454966/2 "2008-07-01T21:45:20Z")
Here on the SDMB, we put content in our posts. Either acculturate or get the fuck out! ---
**Author:** ![SkipMagic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skipmagic/32/20706_2.png) [@SkipMagic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SkipMagic)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2008, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-evidence-certain-religious-types-are-fooking-nuts-ro/454966/3 "2008-07-01T21:54:07Z")
Fooking nuts belong in the Pit. (Or a nice ice cream.) ---
**Author:** ![Chessic\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7c8e57/32.png) [@Chessic\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chessic_Sense)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2008, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-evidence-certain-religious-types-are-fooking-nuts-ro/454966/4 "2008-07-01T22:01:02Z")
I think you just don’t sense how a dog is offensive to muslims. It’d be like if I put a postcard out that had a burning flag on it. Now the creator of the card might come from a country where fire symbolizes life, or something, and a burning flag is a neutral/good thing. You can’t see why that would be offensive to an American? What if the ads had someone making an obscene gesture that was, in the designer’s mind, just considered a type of wave? It says they’re offended, not riotting in the streets! Cut 'em some slack. ---
**Author:** ![Savannah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b3f665/32.png) [@Savannah](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Savannah)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2008, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-evidence-certain-religious-types-are-fooking-nuts-ro/454966/5 "2008-07-01T22:04:46Z")
Oh, good god. What some people don’t have to complain about it. I think that’s a jolly cute pup. I really do think that if one chooses to immigrate to a country, you have to take steps to adjust to the country, not the other way around. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2008, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-evidence-certain-religious-types-are-fooking-nuts-ro/454966/6 "2008-07-01T22:06:08Z")
So how do they react to actual police dogs? (The puppy looks a bit like our Piper Grace when she was a wee kittten, hee!) ---
**Author:** ![Tanaqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3bc359/32.png) [@Tanaqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tanaqui)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2008, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-evidence-certain-religious-types-are-fooking-nuts-ro/454966/7 "2008-07-01T22:16:39Z")
So let me get this straight. You read an article in the Daily Mail–the real life equivalent of a big fat troll–and decided to pit an entire group of people because according to your very own cite, they have displayed such enormous outrage and anger over this that “some shopkeepers in Dundee have refused to display the advert.” I repeat, SOME SHOPKEEPERS HAVE REFUSED TO DISPLAY THE ADVERT IN THEIR OWN GODDAMN SHOPS. That is the _only_ sign of outrage the Mail can muster. And you want to deport them over this!? because they have the right to decide what to put in their own goddamn shop? Jesus fuck, who is the nutcase here? ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2008, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-evidence-certain-religious-types-are-fooking-nuts-ro/454966/8 "2008-07-01T22:44:32Z")
So, what you’re saying is that people who don’t like dogs, should be deported from the UK. Sounds reasonable to me. ---
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2008, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-evidence-certain-religious-types-are-fooking-nuts-ro/454966/9 "2008-07-01T22:54:50Z")
I wouldn’t know firsthand because I’ve never lived there, and I haven’t even visited in a few years, but just going off of what you read on the internet these days it sounds like the citizens of “old Europe” really need to start standing up for themselves. This is absurdly outrageous. If a westerner moved to the middle east and was offended by all the women being covered up, would their shopkeepers (or anyone else) take steps to shield that westerner from seeing covered women? Again, I can’t say from firsthand experience, but I have a pretty good guess. What is more objectively offensive? Nature (a dog), or covering up nature (a burka)? ---
**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2008, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-evidence-certain-religious-types-are-fooking-nuts-ro/454966/10 "2008-07-01T22:58:18Z")
[QUOTE=Savannah] Oh, good god. What some people don’t have to complain about it. I think that’s a jolly cute pup. I really do think that if one chooses to immigrate to a country, you have to take steps to adjust to the country, not the other way around. [/QUOTE] This. If you immigrate to a culture that values dogs as pets and companions, even though the culture you came from may not, it’s up to YOU to adapt to the normal cultural standards of your new home, NOT to expect your new home to change its established cultural norms to accommodate your prejudices. ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2008, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-evidence-certain-religious-types-are-fooking-nuts-ro/454966/11 "2008-07-01T23:11:03Z")
Now, normally, I’d call for reason. But, you know, I think I quite agree with Miller, here. That _is_ reasonable! ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2008, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-evidence-certain-religious-types-are-fooking-nuts-ro/454966/12 "2008-07-01T23:33:53Z")
[QUOTE=Miller] So, what you’re saying is that people who don’t like dogs, should be deported from the UK. [/QUOTE] Or shot, whichever is cheapest. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2008, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-evidence-certain-religious-types-are-fooking-nuts-ro/454966/13 "2008-07-01T23:56:52Z")
[QUOTE=silenus] Or shot, whichever is cheapest. 😃 [/QUOTE] Well, bullets are cheaper than boats. On the other hand, loud noises tend to scare my dog. It’s a tough call. ---
**Author:** ![Indistinguishable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/90ced4/32.png) [@Indistinguishable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indistinguishable)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2008, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-evidence-certain-religious-types-are-fooking-nuts-ro/454966/14 "2008-07-02T00:12:36Z")
[QUOTE=Weirddave] If you immigrate to a culture that values dogs as pets and companions, even though the culture you came from may not, it’s up to YOU to adapt to the normal cultural standards of your new home, NOT to expect your new home to change its established cultural norms to accommodate your prejudices. [/QUOTE] Where did anyone ask the new home to change its established cultural norms? As I understand it, some shopkeepers have chosen, concerning their own shops, not to put up a certain poster, which is, you know, entirely within their rights. ---
**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2008, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-evidence-certain-religious-types-are-fooking-nuts-ro/454966/15 "2008-07-02T00:20:14Z")
[QUOTE=Indistinguishable] Where did anyone ask the new home to change its established cultural norms? As I understand it, some shopkeepers have chosen, concerning their own shops, not to put up a certain poster, which is, you know, entirely within their rights. [/QUOTE] It says that some people are “outraged” at the advert. They have absolutely no basis for their outrage. If I moved to a ME country where my wife was expected to wear a burka, I wouldn’t be outraged. I’d either accept it as the cultural norm for the area and adapt, or _I wouldn’t move there in the first place_. Same thing applies here. ---
**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2008, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-evidence-certain-religious-types-are-fooking-nuts-ro/454966/16 "2008-07-02T00:30:57Z")
[QUOTE=Weirddave] It says that some people are “outraged” at the advert. They have absolutely no basis for their outrage. If I moved to a ME country where my wife was expected to wear a burka, I wouldn’t be outraged. I’d either accept it as the cultural norm for the area and adapt, or _I wouldn’t move there in the first place_. Same thing applies here. [/QUOTE] That’s silly. Hell, I’m outraged at some of the cultural norms of my home country. I certainly don’t expect every person who moves here to agree with every single thing that’s done. So long as they obey the laws, they can be outraged all they want. ---
**Author:** ![Indistinguishable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/90ced4/32.png) [@Indistinguishable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indistinguishable)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2008, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-evidence-certain-religious-types-are-fooking-nuts-ro/454966/17 "2008-07-02T00:34:04Z")
Meh. I enjoy a lot about my home country, I wouldn’t want to live anywhere else, but all the same, there are some aspects of its culture which, even though I’ve been fully aware of their existence for a long time and accept as sparse negatives among many positives, I find to be upsetting. I mean, I think getting upset that someone put a dog on a poster is stupid, but I think it’s stupid because it is, intrinsically, stupid. I do not, as a general principle, endorse the idea that one cannot be justified in protest against any element of the cultural norm for their area. ETA: Dammit, **Simplicio** , you’ve stolen my thunder! ---
**Author:** ![Tanaqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3bc359/32.png) [@Tanaqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tanaqui)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2008, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-evidence-certain-religious-types-are-fooking-nuts-ro/454966/18 "2008-07-02T00:37:05Z")
[QUOTE=Weirddave] It says that some people are “outraged” at the advert. They have absolutely no basis for their outrage. If I moved to a ME country where my wife was expected to wear a burka, I wouldn’t be outraged. I’d either accept it as the cultural norm for the area and adapt, or _I wouldn’t move there in the first place_. Same thing applies here. [/QUOTE] Well, it certainly doesn`t stop some people from being `outraged` that Koreans eat dogs, or that the Japanese kill cute little whales and eat cute little horses and they are doing that in their own countries. Furthermore, do you realize that this is the Daily Mail? It is a tabloid. It has all the journalistic integrity of the kind of newspaper that trumpets Elvis`s return in a spaceship. It is also well-known as a xenophobic race-baiting tabloid–Fox News times 10 and with even less concern for journalist standards. And that is saying a whole lot. I find it ironic that a bunch of Americans–living in a country where shopkeepers can refuse to employ people not of their own religion, and can refuse to sell birth control if it doesn`t meet their own moral standards–would complain about shopkeepers asserting their right to NOT PUT UP A POSTER IN THEIR OWN STORES. Jesus Christ. ---
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2008, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-evidence-certain-religious-types-are-fooking-nuts-ro/454966/19 "2008-07-02T00:41:12Z")
[QUOTE=Simplicio] That’s silly. [/QUOTE] Sigh. No it’s not. ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2008, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-evidence-certain-religious-types-are-fooking-nuts-ro/454966/20 "2008-07-02T01:05:06Z")
[QUOTE=Weirddave] It says that some people are “outraged” at the advert. [/QUOTE] The word “outrage” when used by the Mail means that they were able to scrabble up some guy who said that he wasn’t sure that he was overly enthusiastic about something. Barely an article goes by without an allegation being made that some group is outraged about something. In the Mail’s Britain, the whole country should be dead of burst veins in the neck from sheer apoplexy by the age of 40. The article talks of outrage, but you will note if you actually fucking read that the actual uotes from muslims are much, much milder. Learn to read the spin, fer Og’s sake. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-evidence-certain-religious-types-are-fooking-nuts-ro/454966.md?page=2)