# More evidence that not all cops are decent people **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 16, 2010, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-evidence-that-not-all-cops-are-decent-people/550440 "2010-08-16T19:30:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Koxinga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4af34b/32.png) [@Koxinga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koxinga)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2010, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-evidence-that-not-all-cops-are-decent-people/550440/61 "2010-08-20T15:45:56Z")
> [@Darth\_Nader](#): > > About 20 years ago, I got my ass fully kicked by the Boulder Police. I’m totally okay with it-- I was out of control, delusional, and so not very co-operative. I’m told that I punched one officer in the nose, dead on. The other one got it in his nuts. I’m sure they smacked me around quite a bit to get me under control. There’s an index card sized chunk of skin missing from my left hand, and that’s it. So _you’re_ the reason Coloradans have that whole thing about Texans . . . ---
**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2010, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-evidence-that-not-all-cops-are-decent-people/550440/62 "2010-08-20T15:47:25Z")
They are [reopening the case](http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_15834772) and people are calling for Perea’s head, as well as the firing of the two officers involved. ---
**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2010, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-evidence-that-not-all-cops-are-decent-people/550440/63 "2010-08-20T16:24:36Z")
I think all cops should be wired with a small camera. All arrests and interactions with the public should be recorded. ---
**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2010, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-evidence-that-not-all-cops-are-decent-people/550440/64 "2010-08-20T16:37:46Z")
> [@Kolga](#): > > They are [reopening the case](http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_15834772) and people are calling for Perea’s head, as well as the firing of the two officers involved. So, let me see if I have this straight: Perea says that DeHerrara had pushed a P.O. a few minutes earlier. Not only were there no witnesses to this, and there are witnesses to say it _didn’t_ happen, but if it did, the cops just left him to stand there and place a call or just walk away? Not very likely Perea, you are not a very good liar – or human being. Especially if you don’t fire or, at the very least, discinpline all those who have participated in the cover-up. Oh, wait, at this point, that would be you too. ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Nader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Darth\_Nader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Nader)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2010, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-evidence-that-not-all-cops-are-decent-people/550440/65 "2010-08-20T18:22:38Z")
> [@Koxinga](#): > > So _you’re_ the reason Coloradans have that whole thing about Texans . . . Heh, no. Try Summit County for that. I miss the Dick Lamm Colorado, that was a fuckin’ STATE, ya know? ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Nader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Darth\_Nader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Nader)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2010, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-evidence-that-not-all-cops-are-decent-people/550440/66 "2010-08-20T18:28:32Z")
“I am a civilian,” Perea, a career law enforcement officer and former Secret Service agent, told those attending the Thursday meeting after advocates said they feared he did not understand he was supposed to protect the public, not side with the police union. “I am not part of the blue cloth.” Those attending shook their heads in disbelief at several junctures. One woman whispered to another, “He’s such a cop.” Others laughed and groaned when Perea told them: “I do not believe that young man’s civil rights were violated.” ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-evidence-that-not-all-cops-are-decent-people/550440/67 "2010-08-24T01:38:51Z")
[Denver Safety Manager resigns](http://www.2thedeuce.com/news/kdvr-perea-resignation-txt,0,2213438.story) Just an update. Now, the officer that assaulted that fellow on the cell phone should be next. And another - > [@Channel 2 News](#): > > In a second recent case, officers were caught on video violently taking down and arresting a man who offered to testify on behalf of a motorist who -in his view- was wrongfully ticketed for failing to stop at a stop sign. Looks like someting else is up too. > [@Channel 2 News](#): > > On Sunday, several hundred people rallied in front of the new downtown Denver jail, demanding Perea be removed from office after the death of a jail inmate was recently ruled a homicide. Five jail employees have been placed on paid leave in the wake of the incident. ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Nader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Darth\_Nader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Nader)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-evidence-that-not-all-cops-are-decent-people/550440/68 "2010-08-24T06:19:54Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > Looks like someting else is up too. Yep. Remember, Denver has been a really bad place to get arrested for a long time before this: [1961 article in Time magazine](http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,897867,00.html). > [@](#): > > None of the deputies involved in the restraint has been identified. One female deputy was treated at a hospital for an injury she suffered in the confrontation, > A fifth deputy put Booker in a headlock just as the female deputy began shocking him with a Taser with encouragement from one of the deputies, who kept repeating, “Probe his —,” Maten said. He could hear the Taser crackle repeatedly. > > Booker said, “'I can’t breath . . .,” Yedo heard. Then, Booker went limp. > > The deputies walked away high-fiving and laughing, Surprisingly, they won’t release the video. ---
**Author:** ![Declan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecae2f/32.png) [@Declan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Declan)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 7:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-evidence-that-not-all-cops-are-decent-people/550440/69 "2010-08-24T07:48:51Z")
> [@sachertorte](#): > > I think all cops should be wired with a small camera. All arrests and\*\* interactions with the public should be recorded.\*\* Not the best idea. I posted on another thread that I don’t like the Metro Toronto cops for a variety of reasons, but for them to more inline with community policing, then they should be able to officially ignore what should be an infraction. I think that they well on their way to becoming an army of occupation, but the folks that I blame for that are the politicians and not the actual officers themselves. The fact that we intake a couple of hundred alpha males a year to join the vaunted force, it surprises me little that this sort of thing happens, among other things, we pay these folks to walk into a brawl and break heads. What is surprising is that these officers would normally be posted to that jurisdictions fort apache, yet they are being released into the general population. Declan ---
**Author:** ![dmatsch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3be4f8/32.png) [@dmatsch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dmatsch)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-evidence-that-not-all-cops-are-decent-people/550440/70 "2010-08-24T15:29:20Z")
> [@Darth\_Nader](#): > > [1961 article in Time magazine](http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,897867,00.html). 1961? Tasers weren’t developed until 1969 and didn’t get practical application until the mid 70’s. > **[Taser](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taser)** > > Taser (stylized in all caps) is a line of handheld conducted energy devices (CED) sold by Axon Enterprise (formerly Taser International). The device fires two small barbed darts intended to puncture the skin and remain attached to the target until removed by the user of the device. The darts are connected to the main unit by thin wires that achieve a high dielectric strength and durability given the extremely high-voltage electric current they conduct (typically 50,000 volts, or 2,000 volts un 1961 and a \*female \*deputy? ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Nader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Darth\_Nader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Nader)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-evidence-that-not-all-cops-are-decent-people/550440/71 "2010-08-24T15:55:59Z")
No, two different stories, bozo. My bad for not making it clear that the quote referred to **enipla** ’s post about the recent jail death. Really, you googled taser, but couldn’t bother to read the old Time article? ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-evidence-that-not-all-cops-are-decent-people/550440/72 "2010-08-24T16:08:38Z")
> [@Darth\_Nader](#): > > No, two different stories, bozo. > > My bad for not making it clear that the quote referred to **enipla** ’s post about the recent jail death. > > Really, you googled taser, but couldn’t bother to read the old Time article? I was confused too. And I tried to read the Times article, but it just keeps locking up my browser. ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Nader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Darth\_Nader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Nader)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-evidence-that-not-all-cops-are-decent-people/550440/73 "2010-08-24T16:16:23Z")
Again, sorry about that. ---
**Author:** ![Nars\_Glinley](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nars_glinley/32/8177_2.png) [@Nars\_Glinley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nars_Glinley)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-evidence-that-not-all-cops-are-decent-people/550440/74 "2010-08-24T17:16:18Z")
> [@Chicagojeff](#): > > Yawn.. What excessive force?? Don’t act like a fool at the club.. > > In the words of that great philosopher.. “Don’t start none won’t be none”.. This would have been excellent advice for the police to have followed. ---
**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2010, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-evidence-that-not-all-cops-are-decent-people/550440/75 "2010-08-24T17:22:28Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > And I tried to read the Times article, but it just keeps locking up my browser. It’s _Time_, not the _Times_. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-evidence-that-not-all-cops-are-decent-people/550440.md?page=3)