# More evil: Glinda the Good Witch, or Lex Luthor? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [December 21, 2010, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-evil-glinda-the-good-witch-or-lex-luthor/565005 "2010-12-21T21:29:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2010, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-evil-glinda-the-good-witch-or-lex-luthor/565005/1 "2010-12-21T21:29:42Z")
Poll in a moment. As always, smartassery expected. I am not _promising_ to have a childish temper tantrum in response to serious responses, but I can’t rule anything out. ---
**Author:** ![gang\_green](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f07891/32.png) [@gang\_green](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gang_green)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2010, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-evil-glinda-the-good-witch-or-lex-luthor/565005/2 "2010-12-21T21:51:37Z")
The scholarly online journal Cracked has a very pointed essay on this very subject. [Read it here.](http://www.cracked.com/article_18881_5-reasons-greatest-movie-villain-ever-good-witch.html) ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2010, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-evil-glinda-the-good-witch-or-lex-luthor/565005/3 "2010-12-21T21:55:12Z")
What? Lex tried to destroy LA? The Bayou State? I’ll kick his ass seven ways to Sunday. What’s that? Oh, he just wanted to destroy that city in California? Bah. They ain’t even in the SEC. Who cares? ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2010, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-evil-glinda-the-good-witch-or-lex-luthor/565005/4 "2010-12-21T22:00:47Z")
**Oak** , Doesn’t Alyson Hannigan lives in Los Angeles? **gang green** , your cite only demonstrates that Glinda was the most evil person _in Oz_. It proves nothing about iniquity relative to the bald dude. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2010, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-evil-glinda-the-good-witch-or-lex-luthor/565005/5 "2010-12-21T22:50:53Z")
Glinda all the way. Lex was a failure. Glinda got things done - if you were in her way, you ended up gone. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2010, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-evil-glinda-the-good-witch-or-lex-luthor/565005/6 "2010-12-21T22:59:19Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Glinda all the way. Lex was a failure. Glinda got things done - if you were in her way, you ended up gone. And if you were her abused pawn, you ended up _thanking her for manipulating you and nearly getting you killed for yuks_. Question: Has Glinda ever been seen in the same room with Dick Cheney? Of course. Doesn’t that seem odd? ---
**Author:** ![Satchmo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/satchmo/32/4223_2.png) [@Satchmo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Satchmo)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-evil-glinda-the-good-witch-or-lex-luthor/565005/7 "2010-12-22T00:41:55Z")
Glinda was definitely sneaky evil and had no compunction about killing anyone without a second thought. At least you know where you stand with Luthor. I don’t want her waterboarded, i just want her far away from me. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-evil-glinda-the-good-witch-or-lex-luthor/565005/8 "2010-12-22T00:49:51Z")
> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > **Oak** , Doesn’t Alyson Hannigan lives in Los Angeles? [Dark Oak] She is…no longer necessary. I have The Druidess now. [/Dark Oak] ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-evil-glinda-the-good-witch-or-lex-luthor/565005/9 "2010-12-22T01:06:09Z")
> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > Question: Has Glinda ever been seen in the same room with Dick Cheney? Of course. Doesn’t that seem odd? _pfft_ Everyone knows Dick Cheney moonlights in an alternate universe as The Penguin. I guess the question is: Appearance of being Good while being extremely efficient vs. Appearance of being evil while being ineffective. But then, Lex has Superman as his archnemesis. That’ll put a crimp in a lot of things. OTOH, Glinda would probably arrange for him to permanently leave Earth and be happy to do so. ---
**Author:** ![Barking\_Dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ccd318/32.png) [@Barking\_Dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barking_Dog)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-evil-glinda-the-good-witch-or-lex-luthor/565005/10 "2010-12-22T01:15:27Z")
I don’t know know if she’s more evil, but Glinda is definitely the most dangerous. She can manipulate you into being her patsy and personal hitman, and does it all with a condescending smile on her face, and you are _grateful for it_. That’s scary man. Also, Tinkerbell was a total bitch. ---
**Author:** ![Nametag](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nametag/32/406_2.png) [@Nametag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nametag)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-evil-glinda-the-good-witch-or-lex-luthor/565005/11 "2010-12-22T04:55:35Z")
Lex. Glinda was Dorothy’s excuse for hanging out in Oz exactly as long as she wanted to; I mean, really, we’re supposed to believe that helium-throated dimbulb was working the wires on everybody? Lex was a failure, yes, but at least he meant to do harm. Glinda thought she was helping (as much as a reverse Mary-Sue can be said to think). I also voted for including Papa Smurf, although the details are off. Brainy was never touched – he was just nervous all the time because he knew what Papa was doing to Smurfette (and the poor kid never remembered any of it, thanks to the smurfberry extract). ---
**Author:** ![Shawn1767](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Shawn1767](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shawn1767)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-evil-glinda-the-good-witch-or-lex-luthor/565005/12 "2010-12-22T05:11:40Z")
Glinda is a manifestation of Dorothy’s subconscious. She exists only in Dorothy’s dream. Therefore all the inconsistencies are merely because dreams don’t always make sense. If anything, we should be discussing Dorothy’s subconscious and what this means. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-evil-glinda-the-good-witch-or-lex-luthor/565005/13 "2010-12-22T06:11:38Z")
Lex because in Superman Returns Lex planned a new kyptonian continent to take up all the North Atlantic ocean drowning billions of people all around the world in a real estate scheme. ---
**Author:** ![kjckjc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e36b37/32.png) [@kjckjc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kjckjc)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-evil-glinda-the-good-witch-or-lex-luthor/565005/14 "2010-12-22T15:43:51Z")
> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#): > > Lex because in Superman Returns Lex planned a new kyptonian continent to take up all the North Atlantic ocean drowning billions of people all around the world in a real estate scheme. So he was creating a huge metropolis, a city, if you will. And this was to be made up of crystals. Green ones. Emerald even. And so now you are trying to convince us that Lex planned this new Emerald City all on his own? No sir, there was certainly somebody pulling the strings, somebody eeeeeeevil. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-evil-glinda-the-good-witch-or-lex-luthor/565005/15 "2010-12-22T15:50:05Z")
> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#): > > Lex because in Superman Returns Lex planned a new kyptonian continent to take up all the North Atlantic ocean drowning billions of people all around the world in a real estate scheme. Stop telling lies. That never happened. _Lois Lane is not twelve years old, goddammit!_ ---
**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-evil-glinda-the-good-witch-or-lex-luthor/565005/16 "2010-12-22T16:04:13Z")
[Fairy hijack] > [@Barking\_Dog](#): > > Also, Tinkerbell was a total bitch. Y’know, it really bothers the piss out of me that they’ve turned Tink nice. And I say that as a mother of a 5 year old girl, so we’ve been drowning in damn Disney Fairies crap for years now. Her bed is Disney Fairies, her bench is Disney Fairies. We’ve got Disney Fairies coloring books and tea set and art kits and a water bottle and playing cards…she LOVES Disney Fairies. I’m a good mommy, so I indulge her. (Besides they’re almost always on purple backgrounds, which I prefer to the Disney Princess Pink- her next favorite.) But on every single bit of Disney Fairies paraphernalia, I have to look at the beatified face of that evil little bitch, Tinkerbell. The one who killed Wendy and manipulated Peter and made murderers of The Lost Boys! That bitch! That utter bitch! _ahem_ Sorry, bout that. I have oddly strong feelings on this issue. 😃 [/fairy hijack] ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-evil-glinda-the-good-witch-or-lex-luthor/565005/17 "2010-12-22T16:18:17Z")
Lex should have been given a medal and a second\* nuclear bomb when the first failed. And when successful, two more nukes to excise Texas and Florida. \*OK, technically third, but a second for dumping CA into the ocean. ---
**Author:** ![BMalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@BMalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMalion)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-evil-glinda-the-good-witch-or-lex-luthor/565005/18 "2010-12-22T16:39:17Z")
Otisburg? ---
**Author:** ![HubZilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ccd318/32.png) [@HubZilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HubZilla)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-evil-glinda-the-good-witch-or-lex-luthor/565005/19 "2010-12-22T17:58:45Z")
> [@Shawn1767](#): > > Glinda is a manifestation of Dorothy’s subconscious. She exists only in Dorothy’s dream. Only a dream? Oh crap, does that mean the lady and sheriff and coming for Toto today? ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-evil-glinda-the-good-witch-or-lex-luthor/565005/20 "2010-12-22T18:20:58Z")
> [@HubZilla](#): > > Only a dream? Oh crap, does that mean the lady and sheriff and coming for Toto today? I had the impression that more than one day had passed while Dorothy was unconscious. Almira may well have been killed in the tornado. On the other hand – I don’t think we see _Toto_ in the coda, and I don’t think he’d have left Dorothy’s side unless … ☹ [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-evil-glinda-the-good-witch-or-lex-luthor/565005.md?page=2)