# More fun from the homophobes (RO)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-fun-from-the-homophobes-ro/480196>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 7, 2009, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-fun-from-the-homophobes-ro/480196 "2009-01-07T06:04:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-fun-from-the-homophobes-ro/480196/21 "2009-01-08T02:13:17Z")

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> [@Cisco](#):
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> -He’s a regular gay dude with no ricin and a REALLY twisted sense of humor

You can make ricin at home from castor oil (not that I’m advocating such a practice) so as poisons you can threaten people with go, it’s a pretty realistic one.

[QUOTE=QED]  
You don’t want Homeland Security to handle this. You want an organization which can actually do something effective, like actually capture the offender.  
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Well know the Bush Administration has decided to take this threat seriously when they invade a totally unrelated country in the opening salvo in The War On Possibly-Self-Hating-Gay Terror.

We should start a pool on who the lucky country will be. Dibs on Venezuela!

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**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-fun-from-the-homophobes-ro/480196/22 "2009-01-08T02:15:58Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> You can make ricin at home from castor oil

No, you can’t.

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**Author:** ![phouka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c5a1d2/32.png) [@phouka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phouka)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-fun-from-the-homophobes-ro/480196/23 "2009-01-08T02:27:40Z")

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**Q.E.D.** , SHHHHHHH! We want the crackpots to think that they can! That way when one of them does try to take out the patrons of a gay bar, all that happens is a really thorough bowel movement.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-fun-from-the-homophobes-ro/480196/24 "2009-01-08T02:27:52Z")

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> [@Q.E.D](#):
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> No, you can’t.

Sorry… castor beans, not oil.

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**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-fun-from-the-homophobes-ro/480196/25 "2009-01-08T02:30:35Z")

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Beans, yes. But even then, the purification process is beyond what the average kitchen chemist is capable of, websites claiming otherwise notwithstanding. Plus, you’d need a metric shitload (yes, that’s the exact quantity) of beans to extract 67 grams of the stuff.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-fun-from-the-homophobes-ro/480196/26 "2009-01-08T02:35:50Z")

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> [@Q.E.D](#):
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> Beans, yes. But even then, the purification process is beyond what the average kitchen chemist is capable of, websites claiming otherwise notwithstanding. Plus, you’d need a metric shitload (yes, that’s the exact quantity) of beans to extract 67 grams of the stuff.

The CDC seems to think a mouthful of castor beans contain a harmful quantity of the stuff. Anyway, it’s not a stretch to think he’s got 67 grams of mashed and partially processed castor beans in a jar, which would be enough to kill a couple of people, I imagine.

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**Author:** ![Alistair\_McCello](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/58956e/32.png) [@Alistair\_McCello](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alistair_McCello)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-fun-from-the-homophobes-ro/480196/27 "2009-01-08T05:01:08Z")

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> [@Really Not All That Bright](#):
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> The CDC seems to think a mouthful of castor beans contain a harmful quantity of the stuff. Anyway, it’s not a stretch to think he’s got 67 grams of mashed and partially processed castor beans in a jar, which would be enough to kill a couple of people, I imagine.

He may have 67 grams of castor beans, but my understanding is that to extract 67 grams of **ricin** would require approximately a metric shitload of beans.

A quick google check suggests that 3%-5% (various sources) of the mass of a dried castor bean is ricin which means that this fellow would need to process 1.34-2.21 kilos of castor beans to get the 67 grams. This is providing that the internet can be trusted on this subject, which as **Q.E.D.** has pointed out is unlikely.

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**Author:** ![Alistair\_McCello](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/58956e/32.png) [@Alistair\_McCello](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alistair_McCello)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-fun-from-the-homophobes-ro/480196/28 "2009-01-08T05:31:43Z")

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More googleing (with an assist from **Captain\_C** ) suggests that a single castor bean seed has about .000125 grams of ricin which means that it would require 536,000 seeds to acquire the 67 grams of the poison (if all my math and sources are correct).

So 1 metric shitload = 536,000

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**Author:** ![Annie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/858c86/32.png) [@Annie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 6:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-fun-from-the-homophobes-ro/480196/29 "2009-01-08T06:43:22Z")

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So, where do we sign up for the solidarity pub crawl?

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**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-fun-from-the-homophobes-ro/480196/30 "2009-01-08T16:17:08Z")

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> [@seodoa](#):
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> Am I a bad person for being less offended by the letter/threat than I am annoyed by the atrocious spelling on the [sign](http://post.thestranger.com/images/blogimages/2009/01/06/1231291536_eagle1-6-09.jpg) posted with the article?

“If you have abandon your beverage” is the new All Your Base

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-fun-from-the-homophobes-ro/480196/31 "2009-01-08T16:20:57Z")

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I accidentally your drink. Sorry.

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**Author:** ![Hunter\_Hawk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/50afbb/32.png) [@Hunter\_Hawk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hunter_Hawk)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-fun-from-the-homophobes-ro/480196/32 "2009-01-08T18:20:40Z")

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> [@Annie](#):
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> So, where do we sign up for the solidarity pub crawl?

Just show up at C. C. Attle’s on Friday at 7 pm 🙂

[Latest mainstream news article](http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2008602195_ricin08m0.html). There’s really no further details available yet.

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**Author:** ![The\_Weird\_One](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7bcc69/32.png) [@The\_Weird\_One](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Weird_One)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-fun-from-the-homophobes-ro/480196/33 "2009-01-08T19:51:24Z")

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> [@Ludovic](#):
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> I accidentally your drink. Sorry.

'Salright. I accidentally your car. Oops.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-fun-from-the-homophobes-ro/480196/34 "2009-01-08T20:57:24Z")

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> [@Alistair\_McCello](#):
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> He may have 67 grams of castor beans, but my understanding is that to extract 67 grams of **ricin** would require approximately a metric shitload of beans.

What is that imperial?

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**Author:** ![Hunter\_Hawk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/50afbb/32.png) [@Hunter\_Hawk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hunter_Hawk)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-fun-from-the-homophobes-ro/480196/35 "2009-01-08T21:03:05Z")

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> [@Cervaise](#):
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> What is that imperial?

A buttload.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-fun-from-the-homophobes-ro/480196/36 "2009-01-08T21:43:18Z")

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Ever since Tom Cruise had that lab accident these things have been surfacing everywhere.

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**Author:** ![AllWalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/db5fbb/32.png) [@AllWalker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AllWalker)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-fun-from-the-homophobes-ro/480196/37 "2009-01-08T23:07:38Z")

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> [@The\_Weird\_One](#):
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> 'Salright. I accidentally your car. Oops.

Thanks for bringing that to my atttention.

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-fun-from-the-homophobes-ro/480196/38 "2009-01-08T23:18:10Z")

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> [@Q.E.D](#):
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> You don’t want Homeland Security to handle this. You want an organization which can actually do something effective, like actually capture the offender.

Can you suggest one?

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-fun-from-the-homophobes-ro/480196/39 "2009-01-08T23:20:06Z")

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> [@Cervaise](#):
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> What is that imperial?

2.2 assloads.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-fun-from-the-homophobes-ro/480196/40 "2009-01-08T23:25:46Z")

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> [@levdrakon](#):
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> Can you suggest one?

I would suggest U.N.C.L.E. Or possibly CONTROL.

If neither of them are available, the X-Men.

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