# more HS stupidity :Repeatedly Groped Teen Almost Gets Expelled for 'Boys Are Not Allowed to Touch Me **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 27, 2018, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-hs-stupidity-repeatedly-groped-teen-almost-gets-expelled-for-boys-are-not-allowed-to-touch-me/822056 "2018-09-27T20:46:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-hs-stupidity-repeatedly-groped-teen-almost-gets-expelled-for-boys-are-not-allowed-to-touch-me/822056/1 "2018-09-27T20:46:12Z")
after yesterdays debacle in tennesee (you can peruse here [https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=862919](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=862919)) we get this gem : [MSN](https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/newsfeature/repeatedly-groped-teen-almost-gets-expelled-for-boys-are-not-allowed-to-touch-me-shirt/ar-AAAD4jK?li=BBnbcA0) wow I always thought hs was just bullshit but stories like this make me think maybe online learning like [k-12.com](http://k-12.com) is the way to go after all ---
**Author:** ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-hs-stupidity-repeatedly-groped-teen-almost-gets-expelled-for-boys-are-not-allowed-to-touch-me/822056/2 "2018-09-27T20:53:00Z")
given what was allegedly said by the principal .I can see where the next probable SCOUTS justice got the "well its not that bad idea "from ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-hs-stupidity-repeatedly-groped-teen-almost-gets-expelled-for-boys-are-not-allowed-to-touch-me/822056/3 "2018-09-27T20:56:55Z")
That is some serious doublethink from the principal in that school: > [@](#): > > The teen reported the assaults to her principal, but was told, “the boys were just joking around and teasing her and she shouldn’t take it so seriously.” When the groping continued, the mom contacted the principal directly and was told her daughter “wasn’t making it clear enough to these boys that she didn’t want to be touched.” > > After getting nowhere with the school administration, the daughter decided to take action into her own hands. She wrote “boys are not allowed to touch me” in capital letters on a plain white T-shirt and wore it to school. Despite being a more-than-reasonable request and in line with what the principal was suggesting, the girl was sent home and told the shirt was inappropriate for school. > > The principal even took the discipline a step further. “I talked to the principal again today and he said that her shirt was sexist because it implied that ‘men are animals.’ He told me that he was considering expulsion over her T-shirt because it was harassment,” the mom wrote. **Principal:** _“Don’t take it so seriously, the boys are just joking around, if you really don’t like it then you need to make it clearer that you don’t want boys to touch you.”_ **Student:** _[wears T-shirt saying “Boys Are Not Allowed To Touch Me”]_ **Principal:** _“We may have to expel you for harassing boys by implying that they’re animals!!”_ Remember, folks, boys doing stuff that girls don’t like is just a normal natural part of life and the way things are, and it’s the responsibility of girls to set limits on it and make sure it doesn’t go too far. Girls doing stuff that boys don’t like, on the other hand—even if it’s just complaining too noticeably about bad stuff that boys do—is an intolerable outrage and deserves punishment by authority. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-hs-stupidity-repeatedly-groped-teen-almost-gets-expelled-for-boys-are-not-allowed-to-touch-me/822056/4 "2018-09-27T21:03:10Z")
Jesus, is it so hard for principals to tell kids “Keep your fucking hands to yourself”? ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-hs-stupidity-repeatedly-groped-teen-almost-gets-expelled-for-boys-are-not-allowed-to-touch-me/822056/5 "2018-09-27T21:08:24Z")
Female principals do. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-hs-stupidity-repeatedly-groped-teen-almost-gets-expelled-for-boys-are-not-allowed-to-touch-me/822056/6 "2018-09-27T21:11:21Z")
Ok. That’s very problematic. I know I come across a bit fanatical when it comes to allowable expression and how people don’t really have the right to not be offended. But, groping and the tolerance for groping while punishing the victim for taking reasonable yet what should be unnecessary steps to prevent assault is a whole different subject. No one should have to deal with an hostile environment like that. ---
**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-hs-stupidity-repeatedly-groped-teen-almost-gets-expelled-for-boys-are-not-allowed-to-touch-me/822056/7 "2018-09-27T21:13:08Z")
Beck’s a sexist. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-hs-stupidity-repeatedly-groped-teen-almost-gets-expelled-for-boys-are-not-allowed-to-touch-me/822056/8 "2018-09-27T21:15:29Z")
What does “hH” mean? ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-hs-stupidity-repeatedly-groped-teen-almost-gets-expelled-for-boys-are-not-allowed-to-touch-me/822056/9 "2018-09-27T21:17:48Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Ok. That’s very problematic. I know I come across a bit fanatical when it comes to allowable expression and how people don’t really have the right to not be offended. > > But, groping and the tolerance for groping while punishing the victim for taking reasonable yet what should be unnecessary steps to prevent assault is a whole different subject. 😕 I don’t see how that’s “a whole different subject”. Presumably, if you are someone who’s “fanatical” about the right to free expression and people “not having the right to not be offended”, then you would be even **more** wholeheartedly in support of this girl’s freedom to wear a T-shirt saying “Boys Are Not Allowed To Touch Me”. Remember, what this girl is dealing with is not other people’s offensive speech but other people’s physical assaults. Her assailants do not have any conceivable defense on free-expression grounds. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-hs-stupidity-repeatedly-groped-teen-almost-gets-expelled-for-boys-are-not-allowed-to-touch-me/822056/10 "2018-09-27T21:18:52Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > What does “hH” mean? I’m guessing a typo for “hs” or “HS”, i.e., high school. ---
**Author:** ![DavidwithanR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3bc359/32.png) [@DavidwithanR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidwithanR)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-hs-stupidity-repeatedly-groped-teen-almost-gets-expelled-for-boys-are-not-allowed-to-touch-me/822056/11 "2018-09-27T21:19:02Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > … and how people don’t really have the right to not be offended. To not be? Or to be? You’re saying that in some cases being offended is absolutely mandatory? Or you mis-typed, and meant to say that in some cases people have no right to be offended? ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-hs-stupidity-repeatedly-groped-teen-almost-gets-expelled-for-boys-are-not-allowed-to-touch-me/822056/12 "2018-09-27T21:23:45Z")
IAN **octopus** and cannot speak for him, but I’ve always seen the expression “people don’t have the right not to be offended” and its ilk used to mean that A’s preference for not encountering forms of expression that A finds offensive doesn’t override B’s right to free expression. That is, not having to put up with anything you find offensive is nice and all, but it is not in any way your guaranteed right. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-hs-stupidity-repeatedly-groped-teen-almost-gets-expelled-for-boys-are-not-allowed-to-touch-me/822056/13 "2018-09-27T21:37:24Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > 😕 I don’t see how that’s “a whole different subject”. Presumably, if you are someone who’s “fanatical” about the right to free expression and people “not having the right to not be offended”, then you would be even **more** wholeheartedly in support of this girl’s freedom to wear a T-shirt saying “Boys Are Not Allowed To Touch Me”. > > Remember, what this girl is dealing with is not other people’s offensive speech but other people’s physical assaults. Her assailants do not have any conceivable defense on free-expression grounds. You read my post? My first statement alludes to the impression people have of me based on what I support with regards to speech or press. It was to contrast that support with my feelings of disgust, which is why that phrase “a whole different subject” is used, over facilitating an environment where a girl is groped and then punished for a t-shirt. For clarity, I should have omitted the first paragraph and been a lot more direct with my condemnation of the principle and the boys at that school. My apologies. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-hs-stupidity-repeatedly-groped-teen-almost-gets-expelled-for-boys-are-not-allowed-to-touch-me/822056/14 "2018-09-27T21:45:16Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > You read my post? 😕 Yes, I thought my quoting your post made that obvious. Are you asking because you mistakenly thought I had you on ignore, or something? Ast it happens, I’m old-fashioned in that regard and still ignore posts and posters manually where I consider it appropriate, rather than letting software handle it. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-hs-stupidity-repeatedly-groped-teen-almost-gets-expelled-for-boys-are-not-allowed-to-touch-me/822056/15 "2018-09-27T21:46:18Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > For clarity, I should have omitted the first paragraph and been a lot more direct with my condemnation of the principle and the boys at that school. My apologies. Normally I’d not bother quibbling over your use of homophones, but I have to admit this one still works. It’s not just the principal, but also the underlying principle that deserves condemnation. Also, glad I was right that, despite what you said in that paragraph, you would still condemn this completely. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-hs-stupidity-repeatedly-groped-teen-almost-gets-expelled-for-boys-are-not-allowed-to-touch-me/822056/16 "2018-09-27T21:52:58Z")
The mom needs to do what I did and call the police herself, although I hope it’s moot at this point and they are already involved. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-hs-stupidity-repeatedly-groped-teen-almost-gets-expelled-for-boys-are-not-allowed-to-touch-me/822056/17 "2018-09-27T21:58:25Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > 😕 Yes, I thought my quoting your post made that obvious. Are you asking because you mistakenly thought I had you on ignore, or something? Ast it happens, I’m old-fashioned in that regard and still ignore posts and posters manually where I consider it appropriate, rather than letting software handle it. Nah. I just thought I was more clear than I was. Being the pit I had to ask in a not so nice way. > [@BigT](#): > > Normally I’d not bother quibbling over your use of homophones, but I have to admit this one still works. It’s not just the principal, but also the underlying principle that deserves condemnation. > > Also, glad I was right that, despite what you said in that paragraph, you would still condemn this completely. Thank you for your graciousness. What this board is really demonstrating is that I need either an editor or more time with a style/grammar book. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-hs-stupidity-repeatedly-groped-teen-almost-gets-expelled-for-boys-are-not-allowed-to-touch-me/822056/18 "2018-09-27T22:00:01Z")
But boys are going to react to such a message by treating it as a challenge–and touching her, aren’t they? ---
**Author:** ![Bill\_Door](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@Bill\_Door](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bill_Door)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-hs-stupidity-repeatedly-groped-teen-almost-gets-expelled-for-boys-are-not-allowed-to-touch-me/822056/19 "2018-09-27T22:08:05Z")
> [@PastTense](#): > > But boys are going to react to such a message by treating it as a challenge–and touching her, aren’t they? Oh, I get it. So by saying she isn’t to be touched she’s asking for it. Of course, by asking to be touched she’d be asking for it as well. How would you recommend she deal with this? ---
**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2018, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-hs-stupidity-repeatedly-groped-teen-almost-gets-expelled-for-boys-are-not-allowed-to-touch-me/822056/20 "2018-09-27T22:09:55Z")
> [@PastTense](#): > > But boys are going to react to such a message by treating it as a challenge–and touching her, aren’t they? I didn’t get the impression from the article that they got the chance - she was expelled for merely wearing it. Not that I would expect the shirt to have stopped them - criminal shitheads be criminal shitheads. The person who it was meant to stop was the _principal_ - who had been blowing off the problem by blaming the victim and claiming she was asking for it. This would put lie to his lie. And being as it was a slap in the face of the principal, it’s unsurprising that the shithead slapped back. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-hs-stupidity-repeatedly-groped-teen-almost-gets-expelled-for-boys-are-not-allowed-to-touch-me/822056.md?page=2)