# more HS stupidity :Repeatedly Groped Teen Almost Gets Expelled for 'Boys Are Not Allowed to Touch Me **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 27, 2018, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-hs-stupidity-repeatedly-groped-teen-almost-gets-expelled-for-boys-are-not-allowed-to-touch-me/822056 "2018-09-27T20:46:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Jeff\_Lichtman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jeff_lichtman/32/1531_2.png) [@Jeff\_Lichtman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jeff_Lichtman)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2018, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-hs-stupidity-repeatedly-groped-teen-almost-gets-expelled-for-boys-are-not-allowed-to-touch-me/822056/41 "2018-09-30T02:29:19Z")
I’d love to see every girl in that school wear a “Boys Are Not Allowed to Touch Me” shirt on the same day. It would show solidarity, it would make a point, and that idiot principal wouldn’t have the nerve to expel them all. ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2018, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-hs-stupidity-repeatedly-groped-teen-almost-gets-expelled-for-boys-are-not-allowed-to-touch-me/822056/42 "2018-09-30T15:08:24Z")
> [@Derleth](#): > > Here, I’ll translate: No. People should be integrated into adult society, beginning around age 12 or 13, so they do not carry childish habits into adulthood. Middle and high schools treat teenage persons as children when they are much closer to adulthood. A recipe for angst, drug use, suicide, and unpreparedness. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2018, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-hs-stupidity-repeatedly-groped-teen-almost-gets-expelled-for-boys-are-not-allowed-to-touch-me/822056/43 "2018-09-30T20:46:09Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > People should be integrated into adult society, beginning around age 12 or 13 😕 Most children begin to be “integrated into adult society” at a much younger age than that. Very, very few of us these days were kept completely out of sight in the nursery under Nanny’s loving care right up to the day of our coming-out ball in late adolescence. _I_ was, of course, and _you_ were, but the vast majority of our coevals not so much, and certainly not the younger generations. If, on the other hand, you are using “integrated into adult society” to mean “given the same responsibilities and expectations as adults”, nah, that would be a stupid way to handle young teens. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2018, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-hs-stupidity-repeatedly-groped-teen-almost-gets-expelled-for-boys-are-not-allowed-to-touch-me/822056/44 "2018-09-30T22:41:08Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > No. People should be integrated into adult society, beginning around age 12 or 13, so they do not carry childish habits into adulthood. Middle and high schools treat teenage persons as children when they are much closer to adulthood. A recipe for angst, drug use, suicide, and unpreparedness. Okay, we know you finished with a sixth grade education, but some of us could make it past that. ---
**Author:** ![Chessic\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7c8e57/32.png) [@Chessic\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chessic_Sense)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2018, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-hs-stupidity-repeatedly-groped-teen-almost-gets-expelled-for-boys-are-not-allowed-to-touch-me/822056/45 "2018-10-02T02:00:02Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > Well, I suppose it depends. Are boys rational beings who respect the expressed wishes of other people about their bodily autonomy, or are boys inconsiderate “animals” for whom their own desire to get away with doing something forbidden overrides other people’s right to bodily autonomy? Boys are inconsiderate “animals” for whom their own desire to get away with doing something forbidden overrides other people’s right to bodily autonomy. Most definitely. Men, not so much. > [@Kimstu](#): > > If the former, then no problem: they see a shirt that says “don’t touch me”, and they won’t touch her because she has the right to decide who may or may not touch her. Simple. This entirely depends on whether the girl is in their social group or not. If so, they’ll protect her. If not, they’ll violate her. That’s how high school works. > [@Kimstu](#): > > If the latter, then it sounds like we need either to discipline those boys so that they learn how to respect other people’s autonomy, or remove them from school so their inability to behave with respect isn’t causing problems for other people. Well yeah. That’s the idea. > [@Kimstu](#): > > Either way, I don’t think the correct response is to treat the boys’ misconduct as some kind of behavioral natural phenomenon that girls need to accept as a fact of life and figure out the correct workaround for. Well, yeah. > [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > Anyone else bothered by the lack of specifics in a supposed news story? > > The kid, the mother, the goddamned Principal. They don’t even name the High School. Not even a ‘the Principal declined to comment’. The links are to ‘Working Mother’. > > I’m gonna go ahead and call bullshit. Been thinking that myself. And even if the principal did say expulsion was on the table, it doesn’t mean it really is. This isn’t the pinnacle of journalism. ---
**Author:** ![MarvinKitFox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ba0ec/32.png) [@MarvinKitFox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MarvinKitFox)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2018, 6:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-hs-stupidity-repeatedly-groped-teen-almost-gets-expelled-for-boys-are-not-allowed-to-touch-me/822056/46 "2018-10-02T06:32:51Z")
> [@nightshadea](#): > > [MSN](https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/newsfeature/repeatedly-groped-teen-almost-gets-expelled-for-boys-are-not-allowed-to-touch-me-shirt/ar-AAAD4jK?li=BBnbcA0) This event, _as reported here_, is a despicable act that should be condemned in the strongest terms. However, the story is remarkably devoid of detail, and seems rather implausible as it stands. This is basically a “she-said” story heard thirdhand, as told by the mother, who only has the story as told by her daughter. I would be quite interested in what actually happened. ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2018, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-hs-stupidity-repeatedly-groped-teen-almost-gets-expelled-for-boys-are-not-allowed-to-touch-me/822056/47 "2018-10-02T12:02:43Z")
> [@MarvinKitFox](#): > > This event, _as reported here_, is a despicable act that should be condemned in the strongest terms. > > However, the story is remarkably devoid of detail, and seems rather implausible as it stands. This is basically a “she-said” story heard thirdhand, as told by the mother, who only has the story as told by her daughter. > > I would be quite interested in what actually happened. I don’t blame you for wanting more details before turning on the outrage. But I can believe that this actually happened. I think many, if not most, boys know better than to grope girls; and that most principals aren’t as boneheaded and sexist as to react the way this one allegedly did. But that someone, somewhere, is this repulsive? Yeah, I can believe that. ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2018, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-hs-stupidity-repeatedly-groped-teen-almost-gets-expelled-for-boys-are-not-allowed-to-touch-me/822056/48 "2018-10-02T15:53:11Z")
> [@Voyager](#): > > Okay, we know you finished with a sixth grade education, but some of us could make it past that. A simple corollary would be we put all the less-than-able Boomers out to pasture so they can’t damage society any longer. Don’t worry, old fellow, there will be plenty of opioids for you. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2018, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-hs-stupidity-repeatedly-groped-teen-almost-gets-expelled-for-boys-are-not-allowed-to-touch-me/822056/49 "2018-10-02T16:12:02Z")
For those frustrated by the lack of reporting on this, the mother who originally posted on Reddit removed the post and replaced it with the below. She gave no interviews to the media, so there’s nothing to report on. Sure, she could be exaggerating the story, but I see no reason to disbelieve what she says. > [@](#): > > Due to the huge amount of PMs and chats that I’ve received and the fact that people in our district are identifying us by this post, I have removed the story to avoid being doxxed. We have no desire to go public and we do not want this story of sexual harassment to be attached to our daughter forever. Please leave us alone. > > And to the person who messaged me and told me I should have never had children and that I’m taking feminism back a step, please reconsider your feeling of entitlement over my daughter’s body, time, and life. Going public would have lasting ramifications for her social life and self esteem, particularly if subjected to internet trolls and the like. She is not obligated to dedicate the entirety of her emotional energy to an internet phenomenon. We are handling this without the media. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-hs-stupidity-repeatedly-groped-teen-almost-gets-expelled-for-boys-are-not-allowed-to-touch-me/822056.md?page=2)