# More Mundane Pointless stuff on Cattle **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [May 24, 2010, 8:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-mundane-pointless-stuff-on-cattle/540550 "2010-05-24T08:50:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2010, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-mundane-pointless-stuff-on-cattle/540550/21 "2010-05-26T16:51:30Z")
**Carol:** [http://www.theness.com/neurologicablog/?p=1990](http://www.theness.com/neurologicablog/?p=1990) ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2010, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-mundane-pointless-stuff-on-cattle/540550/22 "2010-05-26T17:49:10Z")
> [@Sailboat](#): > > \ > > Wow, they’re mush more devious than I realized. now your cookin’ ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2010, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-mundane-pointless-stuff-on-cattle/540550/23 "2010-05-26T18:00:54Z")
> [@NineToTheSky](#): > > So it’s beeve mutes now? Don’t be so hard on the beeves, Ward. ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2010, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-mundane-pointless-stuff-on-cattle/540550/24 "2010-05-26T18:45:09Z")
All quotes from the article: > [@](#): > > “It’s almost like the animal was taken away, killed, surgically manipulated and brought back,” In what was is it like that? What does he have to compare it to? > [@](#): > > Some of the wounds on one cow were “like laser cuts,” he said Again, in what way? They were straight? How many “laser cuts” in cow carcasses has this guy seen? > [@](#): > > “(The aliens) do what they have to, and then they bring (the cows) back and they drop them back in the field. And that’s why there are no tracks.” Sigh. I asked this a half dozen or so times in the last thread, which carol consistently ignored, but I’ll try again - WHY??! Let’s assume, for the sake of argument, that aliens took the cows away and “did what they had to”. WHY would then then bring them back and leave them in the field where they found them? If they were in space, why not just dump the bodies in orbit where there would be no evidence? And what makes aliens somehow immune from leaving tracks? It’s the same old fallacy - “I don’t understand it; therefore it’s aliens”. > [@](#): > > “The pattern is that of surgical cuts. There are no bite marks. There are no scratch marks. There’s no carnage on the ground…It’s as if it was under surgery.” Have you considered the possibility of surgery? > [@](#): > > If not predators, Striegel says it is also possible that people could be involved. You don’t say. And, of course, in true journalistic fashion, an actual explanation from someone who actually knows what they’re talking about is buried right at the end: > [@](#): > > “Postmortem changes on an animal happen very fast,” said Nick Striegel, a veterinarian with the department. “Predators are coming in…they can lick up that blood. Insects and other parts of the decomposing process can digest body fluids.” ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2010, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-mundane-pointless-stuff-on-cattle/540550/25 "2010-05-26T19:36:41Z")
The salivary glands of cattle, located beneath the tongue, produce 15-20 gallons of saliva per day. ---
**Author:** ![blondebear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blondebear/32/1022_2.png) [@blondebear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blondebear)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2010, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-mundane-pointless-stuff-on-cattle/540550/26 "2010-05-26T19:45:59Z")
What I’m concerned about is the beeves’ knees. ---
**Author:** ![Ostrya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/35a633/32.png) [@Ostrya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ostrya)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2010, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-mundane-pointless-stuff-on-cattle/540550/27 "2010-05-27T01:22:24Z")
Dam, **Euphonious Polemic** beat me to it !! ---
**Author:** ![42fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/b487fb/32.png) [@42fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/42fish)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2010, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-mundane-pointless-stuff-on-cattle/540550/28 "2010-05-27T02:09:34Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > The salivary glands of cattle, located beneath the tongue, produce 15-20 gallons of saliva per day. And why do aliens need the ability to produce 15-20 gallons of cow saliva a day? I just shudder thinking about the possibilities. ---
**Author:** ![Spud](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spud/32/347_2.png) [@Spud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spud)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2010, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-mundane-pointless-stuff-on-cattle/540550/29 "2010-05-27T02:50:23Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > By the way I don’t see any evidence that the ‘UFO expert’ has any kind of relevant experience, so why are we supposed to trust him? Because he is also a Reserve Deputy… Duh. (ok, even Barney Fife was a real deputy). Guess what folks… you are in luck because I am a “Self Described Cattle Mutilation Expert.” I’ve looked at this thoroughly and I can give my (self described) expert opinion and I say it was due to natural causes. I’m tempted to pay for the custom title of “Cattle Mute Expert” and I think I can officially trump any of the sources Carol has given. p.s. Cow Anus! ---
**Author:** ![NineToTheSky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5a626/32.png) [@NineToTheSky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NineToTheSky)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2010, 7:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-mundane-pointless-stuff-on-cattle/540550/30 "2010-05-27T07:17:33Z")
Why don’t we have these mutes in the UK? What’s wrong with our beeves? Not tasty enough for these mysterious mutilators? I’m starting a campaign for the right to mutilate British cattle. Anyone with me? ---
**Author:** ![EvilTOJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee59a6/32.png) [@EvilTOJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EvilTOJ)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2010, 10:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-mundane-pointless-stuff-on-cattle/540550/31 "2010-05-27T10:06:23Z")
Your cows are all mad. That’s why the aliens don’t take UK brahmin. ---
**Author:** ![carol\_nistri](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/edb3f5/32.png) [@carol\_nistri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carol_nistri)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2010, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-mundane-pointless-stuff-on-cattle/540550/32 "2010-05-27T12:18:23Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Carol, can you explain why you don’t think it’s predators or scavengers? Havent any of you brightest of the bright noticed something odd? The word scavenger and predator are thrown out without ever naming either one.Why if you believe its a bear then say bear? Why if you believe its a coyote just say coyote? They dont do that do they,that should be a big sound your trumptet wake up call.They dont name the predator or scavenger on purpose,those predators and scavengers leave telltale signs that are unmistakeable.You really really are missing out on this adventure you know. ---
**Author:** ![Spud](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spud/32/347_2.png) [@Spud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spud)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2010, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-mundane-pointless-stuff-on-cattle/540550/33 "2010-05-27T12:32:23Z")
Hmmm… without spending the energy to actually look it up, I believe one of our own resident experts (not even self described) detailed how buzzards would cause the exact same mutes. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2010, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-mundane-pointless-stuff-on-cattle/540550/34 "2010-05-27T12:43:50Z")
> [@carol\_nistri](#): > > Havent any of you brightest of the bright noticed something odd? The word scavenger and predator are thrown out without ever naming either one. Says the person who is always saying scavengers couldn’t be doing this, but can’t explain what _is_ doing it. Why does the other side have to be specific when you’re not holding yourself to that standard? And if nobody saw the scavenging happen and there are many types of scavengers in the area, I _don’t_ know if it’s that easy to say which one did it. And these animals don’t travel alone. > [@](#): > > You really really are missing out on this adventure you know. I’ll stick to facts and rationality. ---
**Author:** ![EvilTOJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee59a6/32.png) [@EvilTOJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EvilTOJ)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2010, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-mundane-pointless-stuff-on-cattle/540550/35 "2010-05-27T14:13:40Z")
I vote we rename the thread “Cattle prattle battle rattle” 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2010, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-mundane-pointless-stuff-on-cattle/540550/36 "2010-05-27T14:22:06Z")
> [@Smeghead](#): > > Sigh. I asked this a half dozen or so times in the last thread, which carol consistently ignored, but I’ll try again - WHY??! This is fun. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_Torque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Max\_Torque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_Torque)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2010, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-mundane-pointless-stuff-on-cattle/540550/37 "2010-05-27T14:30:56Z")
> [@EvilTOJ](#): > > I vote we rename the thread “Cattle prattle battle rattle” 😃 Have you been reading **Fox In Socks** again? “When beetles fight these battles in a bottle with their paddles and the bottle’s on a poodle and the poodle’s eating noodles…” ---
**Author:** ![carol\_nistri](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/edb3f5/32.png) [@carol\_nistri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carol_nistri)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2010, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-mundane-pointless-stuff-on-cattle/540550/38 "2010-05-27T14:58:12Z")
Well isnt this something,so its buzzards now is it? Buzzards my foot.If theres a way to kick all of you into gear I dont know what it is. The ranchers have been called morons here and not one of you came to their defense. These men may not know Shakeabeer from Mickey Mouse but they know cattle. Their livelyhoods depend on their knowing them.If a rancher goes thru the bother of calling in the law and/or the ranch vet you can bet your last dollar that its because he cant tell why in the world this animal died or what caused the strange mutilations,and no dont ask me again what I think,its apparent Im being used as sport here and Im not interested in being used this way. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2010, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-mundane-pointless-stuff-on-cattle/540550/39 "2010-05-27T15:40:03Z")
> [@carol\_nistri](#): > > Im being used as sport here and Im not interested in being used this way. In what way are you interested in being used? ---
**Author:** ![Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Attack_from_the_3rd_dimension)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2010, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-mundane-pointless-stuff-on-cattle/540550/40 "2010-05-27T15:48:07Z")
**carol nistri** , nice to hear from you again. I should clear up the whole cattle mutilation thing: It is due to natural causes such as predation. Please note my title, and treat my opinion as gospel. Thanks. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-mundane-pointless-stuff-on-cattle/540550.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-mundane-pointless-stuff-on-cattle/540550.md?page=3)