# More Muslim Marvelousnous

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-muslim-marvelousnous/570243>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 5, 2011, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-muslim-marvelousnous/570243 "2011-02-05T03:19:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![NCDane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ecccb3/32.png) [@NCDane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NCDane)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2011, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-muslim-marvelousnous/570243/381 "2011-02-10T02:23:02Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Applied to present circumstances, “eccentricity” is a very polite word. Most likely, you will be the only one using it.

I am the worst typist in history.

I draft a lot of longer posts in word documents and then copy/paste.

Too much of a bother to do it for short posts.

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**Author:** ![villa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/bc79bd/32.png) [@villa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/villa)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2011, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-muslim-marvelousnous/570243/382 "2011-02-10T02:54:23Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> I commend you for being afraid of both. Good. A now a question: how does this RRR have a greater impact on your life the radical Islam you also rightly fear? From where I sit, the murderous barbarians that flew the planes into buildings on 9/11 have effected life in the U.S. more than anything in the past 60 years.

It isn’t radical Islam that succeeds often in getting my friends and family treated like second class citizens. I don’t have any scars from meeting radical Islam on the streets.

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**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2011, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-muslim-marvelousnous/570243/383 "2011-02-10T02:57:57Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> From where I sit, the murderous barbarians that flew the planes into buildings on 9/11 have effected life in the U.S. more than anything in the past 60 years.

Seriously? More than the Cold War? More than Vietnam? Korea? The fall of the Soviet Union? The birth control pill? Landing on the moon? The personal computer? The internet?

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**Author:** ![ZPG\_Zealot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e47c2d/32.png) [@ZPG\_Zealot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZPG_Zealot)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2011, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-muslim-marvelousnous/570243/384 "2011-02-10T03:15:05Z")

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> [@AshenLady](#):
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> [Fort Dix five guilty of conspiracy to kill soldiers - nj.com](http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2008/12/shell_fort_dix.html)
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> They were going to use a rouse that they were delivering pizzas, when they were going to shoot up Ft. Dix.

For such a plan to be successfull requires a level of laxed security and outright stupidity that our military hopefully will never reach.

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2011, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-muslim-marvelousnous/570243/385 "2011-02-10T03:21:28Z")

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> [@Dissonance](#):
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> Seriously? More than the Cold War? More than Vietnam? Korea? The fall of the Soviet Union? The birth control pill? Landing on the moon? The personal computer? The internet?

I wasn’t thinking “inventions”, which, I agree, have changed things much more. I broadly drew a timeline to start after the Korean War. But I think you may be right about Vietnam. The Cold War I don’t see as really effecting day-to-day life more than 9/11. Not even close.

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2011, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-muslim-marvelousnous/570243/386 "2011-02-10T03:23:32Z")

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> [@villa](#):
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> It isn’t radical Islam that succeeds often in getting my friends and family treated like second class citizens. I don’t have any scars from meeting radical Islam on the streets.

Who is responsible? Racists? Pit them if you’d like. I won’t stick up for them. I might even join you in the rant.

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**Author:** ![villa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/bc79bd/32.png) [@villa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/villa)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2011, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-muslim-marvelousnous/570243/387 "2011-02-10T03:29:35Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> Who is responsible? Racists? Pit them if you’d like. I won’t stick up for them. I might even join you in the rant.

You asked me how the radical racist right affected my life more than radical Islam. And I told you.

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2011, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-muslim-marvelousnous/570243/388 "2011-02-10T03:35:23Z")

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> [@villa](#):
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> You asked me how the radical racist right affected my life more than radical Islam. And I told you.

Yes, you did. My point is that I believe you and wouldn’t blame you for fearing them or pitting them. But in my life, your “RRR” has had virtually on effect on me. 9/11 has indeed had an effect. Would you go as far as to say that 9/11 has had no effect on your life? A small one? A significant one? A big one?

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**Author:** ![villa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/bc79bd/32.png) [@villa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/villa)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2011, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-muslim-marvelousnous/570243/389 "2011-02-10T03:43:09Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> But in my life, your “RRR” has had virtually on effect on me.

Of course they haven’t affected you.

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2011, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-muslim-marvelousnous/570243/390 "2011-02-10T03:50:56Z")

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> [@villa](#):
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> Of course they haven’t affected you.

And… ?

Would you mind answering what I just asked you.

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**Author:** ![villa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/bc79bd/32.png) [@villa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/villa)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2011, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-muslim-marvelousnous/570243/391 "2011-02-10T04:01:39Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> And… ?
> 
> Would you mind answering what I just asked you.

Answer what? 9/11 and the responses to it had a large effect on my life.

Thanks for your permission to pit the radical, racist right, by the way. I am slightly more important things to do, and believe there are slightly more effective ways of dealing with them and their co-travellers.

But the bottom line is, you didn’t rant against the perpetrators of 9/11, or their supporters. You didn’t even rant against Radical Islam. You ranted against Muslims. Despite the fact that the Muslim government is investigating it, and the Muslim commentators on the news story ranted about it. To you, all Islam is guilty of the crimes of the perpetrators of this. The same logic would lead me to blame all white males for the skinheads I have fought. Which would make me pretty self loathing in the end.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2011, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-muslim-marvelousnous/570243/392 "2011-02-10T04:18:34Z")

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[quote=“NCDane, post:373, topic:570243”]

I have been in on the political chat room racket for exactly 7 years and about 11,000 posts on several different boards now, and I am hip to the formatting options.

I have always used short lines because of

[ol]  
[li]Eccentircity [/li][li]Short lines are more pleasing to _my_ eye, and more easy for _me_ to read. [/ol][/li][/QUOTE]

Ah, so you are writing posts primarily for yourself. Got it. I’ll leave you to it, then.

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2011, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-muslim-marvelousnous/570243/393 "2011-02-10T04:18:51Z")

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> [@villa](#):
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> Answer what? 9/11 and the responses to it had a large effect on my life.
> 
> Thanks for your permission to pit the radical, racist right, by the way. I am slightly more important things to do, and believe there are slightly more effective ways of dealing with them and their co-travellers.
> 
> But the bottom line is, you didn’t rant against the perpetrators of 9/11, or their supporters. You didn’t even rant against Radical Islam. You ranted against Muslims. Despite the fact that the Muslim government is investigating it, and the Muslim commentators on the news story ranted about it. To you, all Islam is guilty of the crimes of the perpetrators of this. The same logic would lead me to blame all white males for the skinheads I have fought. Which would make me pretty self loathing in the end.

I’d ask you to read my posts in this thread more carefully.

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**Author:** ![NCDane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ecccb3/32.png) [@NCDane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NCDane)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2011, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-muslim-marvelousnous/570243/394 "2011-02-10T04:25:03Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> Ah, so you are writing posts primarily for yourself. Got it. I’ll leave you to it, then.

Ciao, dude.

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**Author:** ![villa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/bc79bd/32.png) [@villa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/villa)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2011, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-muslim-marvelousnous/570243/395 "2011-02-10T04:31:58Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> I’d ask you to read my posts in this thread more carefully.

So your rant wasn’t targeted as Muslims? Odd that you would describe it as More Muslim Marvelousnous then. The fact you mention that there might be hope because the government is investigating hardly alters your clear intent.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2011, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-muslim-marvelousnous/570243/396 "2011-02-10T04:50:40Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> I’d ask you to read my posts in this thread more carefully.

Its not that you are complex, nor deep. It is that you are utterly wrong, and insist on being treated as though you were making excellent and cogent points.

Tell you what, pretend we are stroking our chin whiskers and thinking with furrowed brows for about five minutes before we say “No, no, you’re totally full of beans on that one.”

Maybe you’ll feel better.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2011, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-muslim-marvelousnous/570243/397 "2011-02-10T04:56:41Z")

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> [@ZPG\_Zealot](#):
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> For such a plan to be successfull requires a level of laxed security and outright stupidity that our military hopefully will never reach.

Or really, _really_, REALLY good pizza…

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2011, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-muslim-marvelousnous/570243/398 "2011-02-10T05:27:51Z")

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> [@villa](#):
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> So your rant wasn’t targeted as Muslims? Odd that you would describe it as More Muslim Marvelousnous then. The fact you mention that there might be hope because the government is investigating hardly alters your clear intent.

Oh, so you want to ignore all of my other posts? Okay. :rolleyes:

And my OP calls Islam on the carpet for the instances cited and others. In a world where logic is known, that does not men that ALL Muslims engage in such barbarism. Nor doe it mean that Islam may have very good aspects, as well. It simply call Islam on the carpet for the propensity for it to be expressed in the most backward barbaric ways.

But that’s only in a world where logic is known and understood. Unlike, evidently, yours. Or the failed, pathetic, wanna be comedian who posted after you.

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**Author:** ![villa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/bc79bd/32.png) [@villa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/villa)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2011, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-muslim-marvelousnous/570243/399 "2011-02-10T05:51:59Z")

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So you backpedalled when you were called on your crap. Big deal.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2011, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-muslim-marvelousnous/570243/400 "2011-02-10T05:53:38Z")

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> [@AshenLady](#):
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> Hello and fuck you, too.

Again, **AshenLady** , please refer to the Pit language rules in [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=508858), and refrain from using any words and phrases which appear on it. Failure to do so again will result in an official warning.

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