# More Muslim Marvelousnous

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-muslim-marvelousnous/570243>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 5, 2011, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-muslim-marvelousnous/570243 "2011-02-05T03:19:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![AshenLady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/94ad74/32.png) [@AshenLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AshenLady)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2011, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-muslim-marvelousnous/570243/461 "2011-02-10T21:01:38Z")

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> [@Tom\_Scud](#):
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> How are religions harvested?

As in they are a “mental product”, as in a metaphor.

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**Author:** ![villa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/bc79bd/32.png) [@villa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/villa)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2011, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-muslim-marvelousnous/570243/462 "2011-02-10T21:04:06Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> The _cause_ was 9/11. And the _cause_ of that was radical Islam. So the question is where a majority of Democrats “fucking retarded enough” to go along, or are you fucking retarded enough to not understand that they, and the Reps, did what they thought prudent? Or, are you just plainly dishonest. Though I guess that last “or” could be an “and”.

No. The USA Patriot Act wouldn’t have been approved absent 9/11, but 9/11 did not cause the USA Patriot Act. The power to suppress individual rights was something desired by the radical right since way before 9/11. That just provided an excuse, and also cowed the Democrats into rolling over for it. Though usually a mild breeze is enough to do that.

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**Author:** ![LonesomePolecat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a88e57/32.png) [@LonesomePolecat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LonesomePolecat)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2011, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-muslim-marvelousnous/570243/463 "2011-02-10T21:06:35Z")

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> [@AshenLady](#):
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> Christians weren’t very Christian to Jews and Muslims throughout history. Christianity has a terrible track record of persecution of other religions.

You might take a look at the various Muslim atrocities against Christians and Hindus, such as the general slaughter following the conquest of Byzantium and burning Hindus alive in their own temples, before making that judgment. The evils you’re talking about are in no way unique or unusual to Christians, and your post shows a great deal of prejudice against Christians.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2011, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-muslim-marvelousnous/570243/464 "2011-02-10T21:11:00Z")

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> [@LonesomePolecat](#):
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> You might take a look at the various Muslim atrocities against Christians and Hindus, such as the general slaughter following the conquest of Byzantium and burning Hindus alive in their own temples, before making that judgment. The evils you’re talking about are in no way unique or unusual to Christians, and your post shows a great deal of prejudice against Christians.

Religions have not generally been nice to other religions throughout history, period. The Jews have probably got the worst end of it as they’ve lacked the numbers and political clout to do much damage to others until recently, but yeah, they all pretty much have been killing each other gruesomely for millennia.

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**Author:** ![AshenLady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/94ad74/32.png) [@AshenLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AshenLady)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2011, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-muslim-marvelousnous/570243/465 "2011-02-10T21:13:33Z")

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> [@LonesomePolecat](#):
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> You might take a look at the various Muslim atrocities against Christians and Hindus, such as the general slaughter following the conquest of Byzantium and burning Hindus alive in their own temples, before making that judgment. The evils you’re talking about are in no way unique or unusual to Christians, and your post shows a great deal of prejudice against Christians.

I know all about the Crusades and the Inquisition, and atrocities done by one religion in the name of another religion. The evils of yesterday do not make it okay for any given religion to have a pass in evilness in this day and age and/or commit atrocities of one kind or another.

The LDS just a couple of hundred years ago committed the Meadow Mountain Massacre. No religion has an unblemished history of committing atrocities, except maybe “Dianetics”, which is a relatively new religion and is free of atrocities, per se, owing to it’s relative newness.😃

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**Author:** ![AshenLady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/94ad74/32.png) [@AshenLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AshenLady)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2011, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-muslim-marvelousnous/570243/466 "2011-02-10T21:15:06Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> Religions have not generally been nice to other religions throughout history, period. The Jews have probably got the worst end of it as they’ve lacked the numbers and political clout to do much damage to others until recently, but yeah, they all pretty much have been killing each other gruesomely for millennia.

Jews have the numbers, weapons and clout, but choose not to use them. They have their own problems and fragilities that all religions seem to have.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2011, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-muslim-marvelousnous/570243/467 "2011-02-10T21:22:18Z")

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> [@AshenLady](#):
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> No religion has an unblemished history of committing atrocities, except maybe “Dianetics”, which is a relatively new religion and is free of atrocities, per se, owing to it’s relative newness.😃

The atrocities to be ascribed to Scientology are a whole other messageboard’s worth of discussion.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2011, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-muslim-marvelousnous/570243/468 "2011-02-10T21:28:29Z")

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Get thee behind me, Thetan!

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**Author:** ![AshenLady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/94ad74/32.png) [@AshenLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AshenLady)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2011, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-muslim-marvelousnous/570243/469 "2011-02-10T21:30:54Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> The atrocities to be ascribed to Scientology are a whole other messageboard’s worth of discussion.

Indeed, I’d love to know the “straight dope” on Scientology.😉 If there is such a thing, eh?

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2011, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-muslim-marvelousnous/570243/470 "2011-02-10T21:32:52Z")

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> [@AshenLady](#):
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> The LDS just a couple of hundred years ago committed the Meadow Mountain Massacre.

You truly are a moron. Some LDS, and certainly not a majority of the church membership at the time, committed that atrocity. And, get this, there was a trial and punishment, too.

Now, we return you to your previously scheduled ignorant, bigoted, stupid rant-o’-the-week, brought to you by AshenLady.

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2011, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-muslim-marvelousnous/570243/471 "2011-02-10T21:33:07Z")

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If only there were a search function whereby you could find things that have been said here about it.

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**Author:** ![AshenLady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/94ad74/32.png) [@AshenLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AshenLady)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2011, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-muslim-marvelousnous/570243/472 "2011-02-10T21:39:28Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> You truly are a moron. Some LDS, and certainly not a majority of the church membership at the time, committed that atrocity. And, get this, there was a trial and punishment, too.
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> Now, we return you to your previously scheduled ignorant, bigoted, stupid rant-o’-the-week, brought to you by AshenLady.

LDS were guilty as sin for this astrocity and the LDS won’t own up to it, not even now.

[http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=94509868](http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=94509868)

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2011, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-muslim-marvelousnous/570243/473 "2011-02-10T21:41:22Z")

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Again, you truly are a moron. You constantly equate the actions of a few with those of the entire group. That is wrong. And it’s pure prejudice.

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2011, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-muslim-marvelousnous/570243/474 "2011-02-10T21:44:33Z")

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**Monty** , seriously, you’re wasting your time. Either she’s a troll or she’s literally retarded. Regardless, there’s no point in trying to debate with her: either she won’t comprehend it or she’ll ignore it.

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**Author:** ![AshenLady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/94ad74/32.png) [@AshenLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AshenLady)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2011, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-muslim-marvelousnous/570243/475 "2011-02-10T21:44:35Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> Again, you truly are a moron. You constantly equate the actions of a few with those of the entire group. That is wrong. And it’s pure prejudice.

Every religion has it’s problem and LDS has it’s own. No religion is perfect, no even yours.😃

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**Author:** ![AshenLady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/94ad74/32.png) [@AshenLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AshenLady)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2011, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-muslim-marvelousnous/570243/476 "2011-02-10T21:46:09Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> **Monty** , seriously, you’re wasting your time. Either she’s a troll or she’s literally retarded. Regardless, there’s no point in trying to debate with her: either she won’t comprehend it or she’ll ignore it.

Everyone cries when their religion gets pointed out as having its own dirty laundry. Every religion has it’s dirty laundry and some more than others and some worse than others.

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2011, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-muslim-marvelousnous/570243/477 "2011-02-10T21:48:03Z")

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Good luck airing my religion’s dirty laundry, you fucking trolltard. Seeing as, uh, I don’t have one.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2011, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-muslim-marvelousnous/570243/478 "2011-02-10T21:56:06Z")

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> [@AshenLady](#):
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> Every religion has it’s problem and LDS has it’s own. No religion is perfect, no even yours.😃

Where did I say my religion is perfect, you bigot?

By the way, here’s your second baby step: The possessive form of [it](http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/it) is [its](http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/its).

**Shot From Guns** : I’m sure you’re correct; however, I feel the need to point out her errors to prevent others from buying into her stupidity. Yes, I do like windmills. Why do you ask? 🙂

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**Author:** ![AshenLady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/94ad74/32.png) [@AshenLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AshenLady)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2011, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-muslim-marvelousnous/570243/479 "2011-02-10T22:04:03Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> Good luck airing my religion’s dirty laundry, you fucking trolltard. Seeing as, uh, I don’t have one.

Ijit doucheface.

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**Author:** ![AshenLady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/94ad74/32.png) [@AshenLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AshenLady)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2011, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-muslim-marvelousnous/570243/480 "2011-02-10T22:05:16Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> Where did I say my religion is perfect, you bigot?
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> By the way, here’s your second baby step: The possessive form of [it](http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/it) is [its](http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/its).
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> **Shot From Guns** : I’m sure you’re correct; however, I feel the need to point out her errors to prevent others from buying into her stupidity. Yes, I do like windmills. Why do you ask? 🙂

Oh, another English Professor 101…it is not likely.😃

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