# More Muslim Marvelousnous **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 5, 2011, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-muslim-marvelousnous/570243 "2011-02-05T03:19:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 40
**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2011, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-muslim-marvelousnous/570243/781 "2011-02-12T05:08:04Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > There aren’t too many people on this board who can make me look like an idiot. Or if there are they don’t post much. But one thing’s for sure - if there are, you danged sure ain’t one of 'em. > > Still, there comes a time when, after arguing all afternoon and half the night with a literally inexhaustible supply of imbesiles and maroons, I have to actually go out and do shit. > > Which of course gives losers like you an opportunity to do what you couldn’t do while I was still here - which is, in your inimitable little way, to declare victory. > > So, knock yourself out. I’m about to leave again. Gotta pick up some leeks, garlic, ginger root, eggs, soy sauce and seseme oil for a fried rice dish that’s among the things on the menu for tomorrow. > > Now be honest, would you rather be doing stuff like that tonight…or talking to someone like you? > > Yeah, me too. > > Ta. I had homemdae clam chowder tonight with fresh from the oven bread made from scratch. I’ve already eaten it and sealed the leftovers for tomorrow. I somehow didn’t feel the need to announce my meal plans on an anonymous website before I started cooking. You did, and do, and it always seems to coincide with getting embarrased in a debate. Have a nice meal, and try not to worry about that other dude taking over your well-earned spot in SDMB lore. You’ve earned it and it will take a hell of a performance to topple you. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2011, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-muslim-marvelousnous/570243/782 "2011-02-12T05:08:53Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > One question I get a lot as a Pit mod is, “What exactly does it take to violate the ‘no hate speech’ rule in the Pit?” For those that have wondered that, here’s your answer: > > **Champion of Truth** , calling for the genocide of an entire demographic is a violation of our boards prohibition against hate speech. Feel free to continue to vent your spleen over the iniquities of Islam as you perceive it, but do not continue to advocate for their eradication while you are a poster on this board. > > Since you’re new here, I’m not going to issue a warning over this at this time. Miller, you are aware that that was a Coulter quote, right? ---
**Author:** ![sqweels](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f19dbf/32.png) [@sqweels](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sqweels)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2011, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-muslim-marvelousnous/570243/783 "2011-02-12T05:14:46Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > But you have the U.S. Cole, the embassy in Beirut, the nightclub in Bali, the would-be Times Square bomber, Richard Reid, the underwear bomber, the bombings in Spain and England, the shooter at Fort Hood, the traitor GI who used hand grenades on his own men, and others. This is what’s being referred to as “creeping sharia”. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2011, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-muslim-marvelousnous/570243/784 "2011-02-12T05:18:21Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > So you think that the fact that horrible people doing horrible things attribute thos horrible things to their religion is what makes the difference and you think there might be somethign about teh Koran that leads to more atrocities from muslims than others. Right? Right. > [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > Well as far as I can tell, neither the Q’uran, the Bible or the Torah has changed much in the last thousand years of so. So you would expect that the religion based on the bloodthirsty Q’uran would have had an edge on doing fucked up shit over the last thousand years and yet that does not appear to be the case. > > You keep saying “yeah but what are they doing today” Well if your prpopsing that there is somethign wrong with the Q’uran then you can’t just take a snapshot of today and say “members of religion A are engaging in a lot more of activity Z than members of religion B, C, D, E and F so there is something wrong with religion A” when the weight of a thousand years of history indicates that members of religion A does not really stand out as doing mroe fucked up shit than the members of other religions. A few things. First, I really don’t care about what happened in times past. why should we? Does it matter that Protestants burnt witches in a more ignorant time? Why? What certainly matters is that they don’t do that today. So, I’m fine judging a religion based on how it is expressed in our time. But, to answer your question, Islam has been visiting barbarism on the world for over a thousand years. You want proof. The proof can be seen in the way they treat women. They treat them the same way now as they did a thousand years ago. They’re chattel. And Allah forbid the few percent of the population that is born gay are ever found out?. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2011, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-muslim-marvelousnous/570243/785 "2011-02-12T05:20:20Z")
> [@Champion-of-Truth](#): > > And Ibn quoted ANDERSON COOPER! ROTFLMAO! And they criticize MY sources? :rolleyes: Aw, look, it’s our little Freeper monkey, back to throw his feces through the bars of Ignorance in fits of impotent rage. Dance, little monkey, and we’ll toss you another peanut to store in your rectum with all the rest of your “sources”. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2011, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-muslim-marvelousnous/570243/786 "2011-02-12T05:23:27Z")
> [@Lamar\_Mundane](#): > > I had homemdae clam chowder tonight with fresh from the oven bread made from scratch. I’ve already eaten it and sealed the leftovers for tomorrow. I somehow didn’t feel the need to announce my meal plans on an anonymous website before I started cooking. > > You did, and do, and it always seems to coincide with getting embarrased in a debate. > > Have a nice meal, and try not to worry about that other dude taking over your well-earned spot in SDMB lore. You’ve earned it and it will take a hell of a performance to topple you. Oh, hell! I had “homemdae” bread fresh from the oven tonight too. Please don’t tell me yours was of the no-knead variety. I really like that stuff and I’d hate to have to give it up. But apart from that… a) What debate have I allegedly been embarrassed in tonight that caused me to have to post my shopping plans? b) Care to cite any other posts where I announced meal plans in order to bow out of a debate? c) Care to define “always”? > [@Champion-of-Truth](#): > > Amen! > > But oh hell, now these dipshits are gonna start claiming I’m your sock puppet since I posted after you went offline. And they call ME a conspiracy nut! > > And Ibn quoted ANDERSON COOPER! ROTFLMAO! And they criticize MY sources? Give 'em hell, **Champ**! 😃 Oh, yeah. I’m out now. Really. I am! ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2011, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-muslim-marvelousnous/570243/787 "2011-02-12T05:32:49Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Give 'em hell, **Champ**! 😃 > > Oh, yeah. I’m out now. Really. I am! So you’re okay with borderline retarded racists? Interesting. I’ll note that for your file. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2011, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-muslim-marvelousnous/570243/788 "2011-02-12T05:36:44Z")
I( live near Dearborn ,Michigan, the largest Arab community outside the middle east. Years ago there would be stories in the papers about “honor killings” These would generally be when a girl dated or wanted to marry outside her religion. It has been a long time since I read about one. That would suggest that even Muslims can adapt to the principles of the greater community they live in. The idea that Muslims are all some kind of fanatics welded to a dangerous and unchanging religion is not correct in my experience. We have friends that wear burkhas. We have Arab friends that don’t. We are on the same political groups. They are just people. Trying to paint them all because a nut did something crazy, is just bigotry. It is fearing people who are different. It is terrible. After the Oklahoma City bombing, I did not hate all white guys from Michigan. ---
**Author:** ![Champion-of-Truth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecccb3/32.png) [@Champion-of-Truth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Champion-of-Truth)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2011, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-muslim-marvelousnous/570243/789 "2011-02-12T05:38:40Z")
The only good Muslim is…well, let me go check the rules to see if I can say it. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![villa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/bc79bd/32.png) [@villa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/villa)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2011, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-muslim-marvelousnous/570243/790 "2011-02-12T05:41:34Z")
Too scared to bet, sparky? ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2011, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-muslim-marvelousnous/570243/791 "2011-02-12T05:43:04Z")
> [@Champion-of-Truth](#): > > The only good Muslim is…well, let me go check the rules to see if I can say it. 😉 I will note that the vast majority of Muslims are better people than you. Which isn’t saying much. ---
**Author:** ![Champion-of-Truth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecccb3/32.png) [@Champion-of-Truth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Champion-of-Truth)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2011, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-muslim-marvelousnous/570243/792 "2011-02-12T05:44:48Z")
Lobotomy babbled: > [@](#): > > I will note that the vast majority of Muslims are better people than you. Which isn’t saying much. Yeah, because you’ve met all 1 billion of them and me as well. CITE THAT! :rolleyes: You’re such a moron, and sadly, only marginally entertaining lately. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2011, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-muslim-marvelousnous/570243/793 "2011-02-12T05:50:14Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > OK, let’s say it IS different. When the guy with the turban does it, he’s being inspired by his religion. Quick clarification: “when the guy int the turban does it [and tells you he’s doing it because of his religion], he’s being inspired by his religion”. > [@VinylTurnip](#): > > And then? Let’s hear the **magellan01** solution to the problem. Ban Islam from the planet? Better get crackin’, you’ve got your work cut out for you. The solution, actually, lies with those on the left. They need to stop _inadvertently_ giving the barbarians room to operate in. Take this very thread, I know it’s not the goal, but those arguing against pointing to Islam and saying that there is something about that religion that can be—and is—used as justification for acts we all despise. Look at how the left on this board go after racists, or homophobes (or even those who merely object to SSM), or birthers, or Young Earth Creationists. There is an attempt to eradicate the beliefs by ridiculing them and arguing from a position that seeks to STOP what is viewed to be the bad behavior/belief. But not when it comes to threads like this. Nope. Let’s take what was basically a rant against barbarism and hold the OP to the scrutiny of a paper handed in for debate class. Why not participate in this thread and the larger discussion with the same passion and goal—eradication of the barbarism—in a way that marginalizes the radical beliefs, and not those calling Islam onto the carpet. Do you realize how much energy has been spent trying to go after me for supposedly painting all Islam with a broad brush? Imagine if that energy is spent giving the extremists no quarter. It seems those on the left do not understand that the arguments they use gives the barbarians ideological protection. “Oh, Islam is so misunderstood…unjustly blamed for the ills of the world…not everyone is like that, just look at sweet little Achmed…it’s the right in America that hates, not us…” Like it or not, that’s what’s happening. Instead, make _any_ acceptance of radicalism and barbarism completely unacceptable. Seek to change the number in the poll offered earlier in the thread. Treat anyone who gives them quarter with contempt. Look at the treatment in this very thread of someone who they view as a birther. Look at the energy they go after him with for pointing out that Andersen Cooper is not a serious cite. Does THAT opinion really merit a tenth of the vitriol it’s got him, even if he’s wrong? Who gives a shit? It’s Anderson fucking Cooper! That poster, and I, get not one benefit of one doubt. But the religion that is responsible for more more barbarism in today’s world than any other…well some posters will tie themselves in knots and bend themselves backwards till their heads go up their asses looking for the most ridiculous reasons why the charges against islam are wrong or Islam is being treated unfairly. Does that help? Are you on board? Can I, can the civilized among us, can 14-year-old girls who get raped in some Islamic backwater, count on you? ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2011, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-muslim-marvelousnous/570243/794 "2011-02-12T05:50:33Z")
> [@Champion-of-Truth](#): > > Lobotomy babbled: > > Yeah, because you’ve met all 1 billion of them and me as well. CITE THAT! :rolleyes: I’m just using a reasonable statistical projection. You’re clearly subnormal and rounding the low end of the bell curve. Most Muslims will fall well above you by sheer probability. > [@](#): > > You’re such a moron, and sadly, only marginally entertaining lately. I’m not here to entertain you. I’m here to try to get you to answer questions. But you’re not honest enough to do it. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2011, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-muslim-marvelousnous/570243/795 "2011-02-12T05:53:08Z")
Guys. You know how stupid you think **Champion-of-Truth** is? You’re coming off as way, way dumber. read the last page or two, you look like a bunch of adolescent salivating assholes. Sheeze. ---
**Author:** ![villa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/bc79bd/32.png) [@villa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/villa)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2011, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-muslim-marvelousnous/570243/796 "2011-02-12T05:56:04Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > Does that help? Are you on board? Can I, can the civilized among us, can 14-year-old girls who get raped in some Islamic backwater, count on you? Out of interest, what have you done to help 14 year old girls raped in an Islamic backwater, or indeed any other victims of oppression? ---
**Author:** ![Champion-of-Truth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecccb3/32.png) [@Champion-of-Truth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Champion-of-Truth)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2011, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-muslim-marvelousnous/570243/797 "2011-02-12T06:00:09Z")
Lobotomy, did you just say something? :rolleyes: Magellan01 wrote: > [@](#): > > Look at the treatment in this very thread of someone who they view as a birther. Look at the energy they go after him with for pointing out that Andersen Cooper is not a serious cite. Does THAT opinion really merit a tenth of the vitriol it’s got him, even if he’s wrong? Who gives a shit? It’s Anderson fucking Cooper! That poster, and I, get not one benefit of one doubt. But the religion that is responsible for more more barbarism in today’s world than any other…well some posters will tie themselves in knots and bend themselves backwards till their heads go up their asses looking for the most ridiculous reasons why the charges against islam are wrong or Islam is being treated unfairly. They never will. See, I signed up here thinking this was a site that searched for truth. I didn’t realize it was a hive of insane liberals. And yes, liberalism is indeed a serious, crippling mental disorder. They simply cannot face reality no matter how urgent the issue. They live in strange worlds that exist only inside their heads. Worlds where Islam is a religion of peace, and Obama is eligible simply because he claims he is. Funny how they do not demand “citations” from Obama to prove his eligibility, yet they insist on me providing one for saying “boo”. Dear God, one of them is gonna twist that into a “racism” rant. :rolleyes: > [@](#): > > Guys. You know how stupid you think **Champion-of-Truth** is? You’re coming off as way, way dumber. read the last page or two, you look like a bunch of adolescent salivating assholes. They can’t help but reveal their true selves. Liberals are like that. Full of hate and loathing and just unwilling to open their minds to reality. So they are forced to disparage anything that threatens to invalidate the arbitrarily chosen belief systems that float around in their heads. I now have a tattoo on my ass that says “In case of transfusion, please do not use the blood of a liberal. I’d rather die.” ---
**Author:** ![Champion-of-Truth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecccb3/32.png) [@Champion-of-Truth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Champion-of-Truth)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2011, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-muslim-marvelousnous/570243/798 "2011-02-12T06:01:34Z")
Villa babbled: > [@](#): > > Out of interest, what have you done to help 14 year old girls raped in an Islamic backwater, or indeed any other victims of oppression? I sent her a get well card with the admonition not to judge Islam too harshly, as it is clearly a “religion of peace”. Rape is just part of their culture, no need to feel bad about it. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![villa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/bc79bd/32.png) [@villa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/villa)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2011, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-muslim-marvelousnous/570243/799 "2011-02-12T06:04:52Z")
That wasn’t addressed to you sparky. This is, though. Ready to put your money where your racist, birther mouth is? ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2011, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-muslim-marvelousnous/570243/800 "2011-02-12T06:05:11Z")
> [@villa](#): > > Out of interest, what have you done to help 14 year old girls raped in an Islamic backwater, or indeed any other victims of oppression? Well, for one I started this thread, bringing attention to that poor girls plight. And hopefully preventing it from happening to another little girl. It’s a small thing, I readily admit. You, on the other hand, have worked against that. Even if inadvertently. Hope you feel good about that. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-muslim-marvelousnous/570243.md?page=39) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-muslim-marvelousnous/570243.md?page=41)