# More Muslim Marvelousnous **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 5, 2011, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-muslim-marvelousnous/570243 "2011-02-05T03:19:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 47
**Author:** ![Champion-of-Truth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecccb3/32.png) [@Champion-of-Truth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Champion-of-Truth)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2011, 7:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-muslim-marvelousnous/570243/921 "2011-02-13T07:17:38Z")
Straight Man wrote: > [@](#): > > It’s like the famous Arafat quote (which I’m paraphrasing): “Give me F-16’s like the Israelis have, and I wouldn’t use suicide bombers either.” Of course not, because then he’d be bombing entire cities! DUH! ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2011, 7:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-muslim-marvelousnous/570243/922 "2011-02-13T07:36:25Z")
> [@Champion-of-Truth](#): > > Geez. Elucitard got real quiet when I handed him his ass for lying about my concerning his claim that I cited Newsbusters. See how liberals are? He was so eager to rip on me about something, he created an illusion in his mind and convinced himself of a falsehood. Typical. And when called out on it, he disappeared. Also typical. Liberals. Unreal. :rolleyes: Didn’t say you “cited” Newbusters, said thats where you probably got that little nugget of shit you spattered on our Board. You have affirmed that such, indeed, was your source. I just wondered where that nugget of crap derived, so I went and found it. Finding that chucklesome, I shared my findings with all and sundry, as to the sources of your “facts”. Just that kind of guy, all generous, and stuff. Lotta folks I like here, happy to provide them with a hearty chuckle. At your expense, but really, who’s fault is that? Now, if you can look at that and say you handed me my ass, well, by golly, you just keep on keepin’ on! Good for you! ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2011, 10:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-muslim-marvelousnous/570243/923 "2011-02-13T10:37:04Z")
> [@Champion-of-Truth](#): > > El Kabong wrote: > > First, do you see where it says Group Type “Unknown”? Many of those are Islamic, but cannot be verified. No, they’re not. They’re unknown. It says so, right there on the page. Stop being silly. > [@](#): > > Basically, that means that a group of about 1 billion people (Muslims) commits far more acts of terror than the other 5 billion people who do not belong to that group. Well, actually that means that at most a few thousand people who happen to be muslim commit far more violence than the other few thousand people who happen not to be muslim. Anyway, I guess you missed where I stated that I don’t apolgize for religious violence of any type. I don’t condone it, I don’t support it, yadda yadda yadda. And that’s all the troll-feeding I’m doing for one day. You can now return to your regularly-scheduled braying. ---
**Author:** ![wmfellows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c2a13f/32.png) [@wmfellows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wmfellows)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2011, 11:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-muslim-marvelousnous/570243/924 "2011-02-13T11:06:56Z")
What are the odds that this Champion is not performance art? Can anyone really believe that screaming and ranting like this is convincing? Even Frothy is better at it. ---
**Author:** ![Champion-of-Truth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecccb3/32.png) [@Champion-of-Truth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Champion-of-Truth)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2011, 11:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-muslim-marvelousnous/570243/925 "2011-02-13T11:11:08Z")
Elucitard is once again caught LYING THROUGH HIS TEETH. The moron wrote: > [@](#): > > Didn’t say you “cited” Newbusters, said thats where you probably got that little nugget of shit you spattered on our Board. No, dipshit, that is NOT what you said. Here are your exact words: > [@](#): > > He’s willing to use a comment on _Newsbusters_ as a cite And earlier at post #389, you wrote: > [@](#): > > ``` > Quote: > ...has committed 16,799 acts of deadly terror since 9/11... > > ``` > > Newsbusters. > > [http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matt-ha…-moderates-que](http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matt-hadro/2011/02/10/condescending-morning-joe-panel-praises-imam-rauf-and-wife-moderates-que) > > And here’s the punch line: it was a _comment_ on Newsbusters. Basicly, some guy on Newsbusters. Clearly, you accuse me of citing newsbusters as my source. Next, another blatant lie from your filthy mouth: > [@](#): > > You have affirmed that such, indeed, was your source Another lie. I have never affirmed any such thing, because I never cited newsbusters. My info came directly from [religionofpeace.com](http://religionofpeace.com). You just can’t admit when you lied because you’re fucking pathetic. Again, SHOW US WHERE I EVER AFFFIRMED THAT! > [@](#): > > I just wondered where that nugget of crap derived, so I went and found it. Finding that chucklesome, I shared my findings with all and sundry, as to the sources of your “facts”. Yes, dipshit, YOU cited newsbusters. NOT ME. I’ve never been to that site until you posted the link there, you blithering idiot! So let’s see…first Eludicator lied about me by saying I cited Newsbusters when I did not. Or more specifically, lied by saying I cited a comment on that website. Then he lied about me by claiming I affirmed citing that site, when in reality I did no such thing. Then he lied when he claimed he did not accuse me of citing newsbusters. It’s just one exposed lie after another, and now a lame and obvious attempt to worm his was out when he gets caught red handed. As usual, a pathetic, fucked-up liberal twisting his words and using lies to cover his earlier exposed lies. Just admit you’re a lying piece of shit and be done with it! :rolleyes: You’ve been schooled, exposed, and had your ass handed to you in debate. Now shut the fuck up until you have something truthful to say. ---
**Author:** ![TravisFromOR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cc9497/32.png) [@TravisFromOR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TravisFromOR)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2011, 11:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-muslim-marvelousnous/570243/926 "2011-02-13T11:15:31Z")
> [@Champion-of-Truth](#): > > Elucitard is once again caught LYING THROUGH HIS TEETH. The moron wrote: > > No, dipshit, that is NOT what you said. Here are your exact words: > > And earlier at post #389, you wrote: > > Clearly, you accuse me of citing newsbusters as my source. > > Next, another blatant lie from your filthy mouth: > > Another lie. I have never affirmed any such thing, because I never cited newsbusters. My info came directly from [religionofpeace.com](http://religionofpeace.com). You just can’t admit when you lied because you’re fucking pathetic. Again, SHOW US WHERE I EVER AFFFIRMED THAT! > > Yes, dipshit, YOU cited newsbusters. NOT ME. I’ve never been to that site until you posted the link there, you blithering idiot! > > So let’s see…first Eludicator lied about me by saying I cited Newsbusters when I did not. Or more specifically, lied by saying I cited a comment on that website. Then he lied about me by claiming I affirmed citing that site, when in reality I did no such thing. Then he lied when he claimed he did not accuse me of citing newsbusters. It’s just one exposed lie after another, and now a lame and obvious attempt to worm his was out when he gets caught red handed. > > As usual, a pathetic, fucked-up liberal twisting his words and using lies to cover his earlier exposed lies. Just admit you’re a lying piece of shit and be done with it! :rolleyes: > > You’ve been schooled, exposed, and had your ass handed to you in debate. Now shut the fuck up until you have something truthful to say. I thought you were going to bed… You must be using some sort of super-sleep that us god-less liberal wouldn’t understand. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2011, 11:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-muslim-marvelousnous/570243/927 "2011-02-13T11:15:32Z")
Well, I _was done_, but I can’t pass up a quick $500, so: From the closed thread [New rules apply and I’ll tell you what they are](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=596950): [Quote=Champion-of-Truth] And the reward still stands. $500 to anyone who can quote me saying any of the above accusations (that I “hate America”, “hate Hawaii”, etc). [/Quote] I win! Pay up. In twenties, please. Not that I think your check might bounce, but you know how it goes. “In God we trust, all others pay cash”, etc. Actually, tell you what. I don’t need the money. Please donate it to the International Federation of Red Cross and Red Crescent societies. Here’s a link: [http://donate.ifrc.org/?navid=02\_02](http://donate.ifrc.org/?navid=02_02) Confirm or GTFO. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2011, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-muslim-marvelousnous/570243/928 "2011-02-13T18:19:39Z")
> [@Champion-of-Truth](#): > > Elucitard wrote: > > Look moron. We know you’re stupid beyond words. Now we know you’re illiterate and suffer from attention deficit disorder. Why? Because I have posted the citation for that number more than 3 times already, and they all pointed to the same source: > > [http://thereligionofpeace.com/](http://thereligionofpeace.com/) > > This is the ONLY website or citation I have ever cited for that number. I have NEVER cited Newsbusters. As are all of your kind, you are fucking stupid. I mean stupid on a level that words cannot describe. Attention deficit disorder does not explain it. Mere stupidity does not explain it. Illiteracy does not explain it. No, it is the nature of liberals to have a mental illness that forces them to make up reality in their heads as they go along. And the freak show inside their heads never mirrors true reality as sane people experience it. > > Now either go find where I EVER cited Newsbusters, a site I never knew existed before you or one of your fucktard clones here posted it, or SHUT THE FUCK UP. > > This is a public outing between me and Elucitard. One of us is a liar. One of us can’t get his facts straight. One of us is a fucktard. The challenge is this…Elucitard repeatedly claimed that I cited Newsbusters, I said this is false. It’s all public record. So, now is the “shit or get the fuck off the pot” time. Elucitard needs to do one of two things. Either show where I cited Newsbusters when writing about the (now) 16,809 acts of Islamic terror (there were 10 new attacks since I last cited that website) or admit that you are a fucking idiot. One or the other. Now go do it. > > End note: Elucitard babbled on for 317 words, carrying on and on and ranting and raving like the fucking lunatic he is, condemning me for citing a source that in reality I never cited. Typical stupid liberal fucktard! You gotta point. You didn’t actually cite it, since you seem averse to letting us find out where you get your “information”. Turns out, it wasn’t the disreputable, lying sack known as Newsbusters, but the esteemed and much respected Religion of Peace Islamphobia clearing site. And I can relate, if anyone ever said that I cited Newsbusters, I would be sore. Nobody here would believe it, of course, but still, the principle stands. Integrity demands we extend truth even to the unworthy. I apologize. For that. The observations that you are a rabid, hate-filled pustule, those of course remain in effect. But you did not “cite” Newsbusters. You are unworthy to lick the brown grease from Satan’s asshole but you didn’t do that. ---
**Author:** ![straight\_man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/straight_man/32/3027_2.png) [@straight\_man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/straight_man)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2011, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-muslim-marvelousnous/570243/929 "2011-02-13T19:01:41Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Integrity demands we extend truth even to the unworthy. I apologize. For that. The observations that you are a rabid, hate-filled pustule, those of course remain in effect. But you did not “cite” Newsbusters. You are unworthy to lick the brown grease from Satan’s asshole but you didn’t do that. Hey, Satan hates Muslims, too. After all, they keep throwing rocks at him. ---
**Author:** ![Champion-of-Truth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecccb3/32.png) [@Champion-of-Truth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Champion-of-Truth)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2011, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-muslim-marvelousnous/570243/930 "2011-02-13T19:21:32Z")
Lunch time! Someone please explain to Kabong how stupid he is, and why he can’t claim the prize money? :rolleyes: What a moron. Elucidator is a hard-core typical liberal. Can’t ever come out and just say “I was wrong/you were right”. Always has to add in some nasty derogatory wording to the other side, to take the edge off of BEING CAUGHT LYING. Good God, just typing those words “I apologize” must have damn near given him an aneurysm! LMAO! Silly libtards. It’s so much fucking fun to back retarded liberals into a corner where there is no escape, then force them to own up to their sins in public and watch them writhe in pain and anger for having to do so. Their antics are quite amusing. Poor Elucitard! LMAO! I’m not even sure I want to finish lunch now. I’m satiated by Elucidator’s public humiliation. Oh, and apology NOT accepted. What? Y’all didn’t think I was gonna be gracious about a pseudo-apology like that did you? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![MikB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b2d939/32.png) [@MikB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikB)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2011, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-muslim-marvelousnous/570243/931 "2011-02-13T19:22:03Z")
If you have time. A worthwhile opinion at this link: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/IEkelAsmcf4/hqdefault.jpg "The Criminal Truth") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEkelAsmcf4) and if you are still naive enough to think that Islamic cultures are extremely similar to demoratic christian western cultures: > **[World Press Photo 2010 contest winners](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/culturepicturegalleries/8318419/World-Press-Photo-2010-contest-winners.html)** > > A South African photographer's portrait of an Afghan woman whose husband sliced off her nose and ears in a case of Taliban-administered justice has won the World Press Photo award for 2010. ---
**Author:** ![Champion-of-Truth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecccb3/32.png) [@Champion-of-Truth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Champion-of-Truth)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2011, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-muslim-marvelousnous/570243/932 "2011-02-13T19:22:41Z")
Straight Man wrote: > [@](#): > > Hey, Satan hates Muslims, too. After all, they keep throwing rocks at him. Satan loves Muslims. They’re his spawn. Every last one of them. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2011, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-muslim-marvelousnous/570243/933 "2011-02-13T19:34:27Z")
> [@Champion-of-Truth](#): > > Satan loves Muslims. They’re his spawn. Every last one of them. Jack Chick, is that you? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2011, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-muslim-marvelousnous/570243/934 "2011-02-13T19:41:35Z")
> [@Champion-of-Truth](#): > > I see. So Robert Spencer, Joseph Farah, Brigitte Gabriel, Daniel Pipes, and the Religionofpeace website are all liars who are “making up shit” about Islam? I’ve met Daniel Pipes, and I can assure you he has no problem with “making up shit”. You may have heard of Campus Watch, for example, an organization whose sole purpose is to smear academics Pipes dislikes. It’s a McCarthyist witch hunt. ---
**Author:** ![straight\_man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/straight_man/32/3027_2.png) [@straight\_man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/straight_man)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2011, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-muslim-marvelousnous/570243/935 "2011-02-13T19:43:09Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > Jack Chick, is that you? Careful how you use the quote function! I most certainly did not say what your quote says I said! (It’s not your fault, it’s that **CoT** can’t use the fucking quote function properly. Apparently the quote function was born in Kenya or something.) ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2011, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-muslim-marvelousnous/570243/936 "2011-02-13T19:50:00Z")
Huh, you are correct **straight man** , one wonders if he is doing that on purpose so a proper quote would generate that. So, to clarify: > [@Champion-of-Truth](#): > > Satan loves Muslims. They’re his spawn. Every last one of them. Jack Chick, is that you? ---
**Author:** ![straight\_man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/straight_man/32/3027_2.png) [@straight\_man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/straight_man)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2011, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-muslim-marvelousnous/570243/937 "2011-02-13T20:02:28Z")
Thanks, very decent of you. I asked the mods to fix your original post, we’ll see if they get so far. (It would be even better to have **CoT** ’s post fixed, but that wouldn’t be entirely kosher.) ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2011, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-muslim-marvelousnous/570243/938 "2011-02-13T20:37:03Z")
> [@Champion-of-Truth](#): > > Someone please explain to Kabong how stupid he is, and why he can’t claim the prize money? Someone please explain to **Big Shiny Chromium Truth Machine** that when one enters into a contract, one should make sure the language of the contract says what they want it to say. The contract is stated as follows: [Quote=Champion-of-Truth] $500 to anyone who can quote me saying any of the above accusations (that I “hate America”, “hate Hawaii”, etc)." [/Quote] “Me” being **Big Shiny Chromium Truth Machine**. In the very same post, we find the following text, written by **Big Shiny Chromium Truth Machine** : [Quote=Champion-of-Truth] Kyla - Quote me saying I hate Hawaii (as you claim I did) or admit you were wrong. Johnny LA - Quote me saying I hate America (as you claim I did) or admit you were wrong. [/Quote] Wait, you missed it? Here, let me make it perfectly clear: [Quote=Champion-of-Truth] …I hate Hawaii… …I hate America… [/Quote] You threw the bet open to all comers. You didn’t specify that the referenced post was not included. You have stated the phrases in question. So, let’s have it. $500. Pay up, or forever be known as a lying liar and a welsher. ---
**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2011, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-muslim-marvelousnous/570243/939 "2011-02-13T21:19:34Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > Someone please explain to **Big Shiny Chromium Truth Machine** that when one enters into a contract, one should make sure the language of the contract says what they want it to say. C’mon now, everyone with more than a token handful of brain cells saw the move you were pulling. Nicely done, but since that excludes **Champion-Of-Trolling** from recognizing it, you _know_ you’re never going to get him to own up to a damn thing. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2011, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-muslim-marvelousnous/570243/940 "2011-02-13T21:19:42Z")
You really think we’ll remember him that long after he leaves? Well, maybe. Hey, **C-o-T** , there’s a hypothesis we’d like to test, and it requires your assistance. Help a brother out? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-muslim-marvelousnous/570243.md?page=46) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-muslim-marvelousnous/570243.md?page=48)