# More news from my sister's big fat lesbian parenting front! **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [November 14, 2015, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-news-from-my-sisters-big-fat-lesbian-parenting-front/737579 "2015-11-14T17:35:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2015, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-news-from-my-sisters-big-fat-lesbian-parenting-front/737579/1 "2015-11-14T17:35:46Z")
Okay, so if you don’t know, my sister is an out-and-out (though not big or fat) radical feminist lesbian. She had a daughter at age 16, and moved in with a woman who had three daughters. After her partner died, she raised the four children as a single mother. One of the daughters has a daughter raised in a traditional family (mother and father). She is now grown and simply unable to get her life together. She recently gave birth to twin daughters, and social services was threatening to take the babies away. She indicated she did not want to give them up for adoption, but she felt she had no other options. In stepped my sister and her wife, who have absolutely no legal obligation to the mother. However, these lesbians are willing to take in the mother and daughters, provided the mother gives up her nonsense and goes to college next semester, which she has agreed to do. They will support them for a year, but only if she gets herself together. Cheers to the two. And foo to all the people who say “They’re lesbians. They shouldn’t be able to do this.” ---
**Author:** ![GrumpyBunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc8723/32.png) [@GrumpyBunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrumpyBunny)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2015, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-news-from-my-sisters-big-fat-lesbian-parenting-front/737579/2 "2015-11-14T17:52:33Z")
That’s an amazing demonstration of love and caring. Two thumbs up! ---
**Author:** ![UberArchetype](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/2bfe46/32.png) [@UberArchetype](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UberArchetype)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2015, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-news-from-my-sisters-big-fat-lesbian-parenting-front/737579/3 "2015-11-14T17:55:32Z")
So the lesbians are raising the grandchildren while the problem-child daughter goes to school? Is that the jist of it? ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2015, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-news-from-my-sisters-big-fat-lesbian-parenting-front/737579/4 "2015-11-14T18:02:31Z")
Yes, the mother is going to college in exchange for free room and board for her and her children. She understands that if she fucks up in any way, she is out and the lesbians will fight to keep the twins. ETA: And remember, the couple is under no legal obligation to the mother and twins. It’s a purely unselfish act. They took in two daughters and their terminally ill mother a while back, and got to legal adopt the children after the mother died. ---
**Author:** ![UberArchetype](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/2bfe46/32.png) [@UberArchetype](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UberArchetype)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2015, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-news-from-my-sisters-big-fat-lesbian-parenting-front/737579/5 "2015-11-14T18:10:46Z")
Sounds great to me - wish them all the best! 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![Alice\_The\_Goon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Alice\_The\_Goon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alice_The_Goon)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2015, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-news-from-my-sisters-big-fat-lesbian-parenting-front/737579/6 "2015-11-14T19:11:05Z")
I’m proud of your sister and wish them the best. ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2015, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-news-from-my-sisters-big-fat-lesbian-parenting-front/737579/7 "2015-11-14T21:41:27Z")
> [@UberArchetype](#): > > So the lesbians are raising the grandchildren while the problem-child daughter goes to school? Is that the jist of it? Baby great-grandchildren and problem-child grand-daughter if I’ve read things correctly. Anyway, well done to Annie’s sister and her wife. ---
**Author:** ![kopek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kopek/32/337_2.png) [@kopek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kopek)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2015, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-news-from-my-sisters-big-fat-lesbian-parenting-front/737579/8 "2015-11-15T01:53:55Z")
I’ll double your foo for any haters and hugs and good vibes for your sis and wife. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Tildrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@Tom\_Tildrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Tildrum)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2015, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-news-from-my-sisters-big-fat-lesbian-parenting-front/737579/9 "2015-11-15T02:35:27Z")
Good for them! I take it the babies’ father is worthless? ---
**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2015, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-news-from-my-sisters-big-fat-lesbian-parenting-front/737579/10 "2015-11-15T03:09:19Z")
Good luck to them, however, forcing people to go to college who don’t have the maturity, attention span or intellectual skills to succeed can be a set up for failure regardless of good intentions. It’s not a cure all. I speak from experience here. ---
**Author:** ![Tim\_T-Bonham.net](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/46a35a/32.png) [@Tim\_T-Bonham.net](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_T-Bonham.net)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2015, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-news-from-my-sisters-big-fat-lesbian-parenting-front/737579/11 "2015-11-15T06:30:50Z")
> [@Annie-Xmas](#): > > It’s a purely unselfish act. Not really. They are parenting either their grandchildren or great-grandchildren (OP isn’t clear). So from an evolutionary viewpoint, they are helping their bloodline to succeed. Still a pretty awesome thing to do. Much better than being a Judge in Utah! ---
**Author:** ![Urbanredneck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ea5d25/32.png) [@Urbanredneck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Urbanredneck)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2015, 6:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-news-from-my-sisters-big-fat-lesbian-parenting-front/737579/12 "2015-11-15T06:48:17Z")
Wait, she raised a daughter whom she now admits is a nut and yet she claims to be this awesome parent that should raise the grandchildren? What, did she suddenly change? No, I dont think this is a good idea. And yes, I know your going to hate me for saying this but I feel a child should have a mother and a father and there are tons of couples out there who would love to adopt. ---
**Author:** ![Cazzle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cazzle/32/75_2.png) [@Cazzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cazzle)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2015, 7:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-news-from-my-sisters-big-fat-lesbian-parenting-front/737579/13 "2015-11-15T07:55:50Z")
> [@t-bonham@scc.net](#): > > Not really. > They are parenting either their grandchildren or great-grandchildren (OP isn’t clear). So from an evolutionary viewpoint, they are helping their bloodline to succeed. > > Still a pretty awesome thing to do. > Much better than being a Judge in Utah! Ok, I think I understand: Annie’s sister “Amy” raised her own daughter and three step-daughters on her own after her partner died. One of those step-daughters was “Bianca”. Bianca is in a standard straight relationship and raised her daughter, Celeste, with her husband. Celeste is the troubled new single parent of “Daphne” and “Daisy”. Amy and her partner are adopting D&D and supporting C financially for a year while she gets her life together. Amy is taking in the granddaughter and great granddaughter of her long dead former partner, not any bio-descendant of her own. That’s really going above and beyond. The girls who lost their mother at such a young age were very blessed to have Annie’s sister there to look out for them, and she’s still doing it two generations later. Incredible. ---
**Author:** ![Maastricht](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@Maastricht](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maastricht)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2015, 8:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-news-from-my-sisters-big-fat-lesbian-parenting-front/737579/14 "2015-11-15T08:09:36Z")
Yes, where are the dads in all this ? ---
**Author:** ![Cazzle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cazzle/32/75_2.png) [@Cazzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cazzle)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2015, 8:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-news-from-my-sisters-big-fat-lesbian-parenting-front/737579/15 "2015-11-15T08:31:04Z")
> [@Maastricht](#): > > Yes, where are the dads in all this ? Round at urbanredneck’s place, discussing how two mums will never be as good as a mum and a dad. ---
**Author:** ![Octarine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/22d042/32.png) [@Octarine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Octarine)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2015, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-news-from-my-sisters-big-fat-lesbian-parenting-front/737579/16 "2015-11-15T16:59:11Z")
> [@Urbanredneck](#): > > And yes, I know your going to hate me for saying this but I feel a child should have a mother and a father and there are tons of couples out there who would love to adopt. This is gonna go well. ---
**Author:** ![Wolf333](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf333/32/3460_2.png) [@Wolf333](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolf333)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2015, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-news-from-my-sisters-big-fat-lesbian-parenting-front/737579/17 "2015-11-15T17:30:24Z")
> [@Urbanredneck](#): > > Wait, she raised a daughter whom she now admits is a nut and yet she claims to be this awesome parent that should raise the grandchildren? > > What, did she suddenly change? > > No, I dont think this is a good idea. > > And yes, I know your going to hate me for saying this but I feel a child should have a mother and a father and there are tons of couples out there who would love to adopt. reported for threadshitting ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2015, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-news-from-my-sisters-big-fat-lesbian-parenting-front/737579/18 "2015-11-15T18:16:39Z")
> [@Urbanredneck](#): > > Wait, she raised a daughter whom she now admits is a nut and yet she claims to be this awesome parent that should raise the grandchildren? Well, no. If I’m reading the OP correctly (and she may wish to clarify this matter since there seems to be some confusion), the Troubled College Student is the _granddaughter_ of her sister’s deceased partner, who was raised by deceased-partner’s daughter and her own biological father. The children being raised by the OP’s sister and her current wife are thus the great-grandchildren of the deceased partner. So no, Sister didn’t raise Troubled College Student; she raised TCS’s mother after the death of TCS’ grandmother. ---
**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2015, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-news-from-my-sisters-big-fat-lesbian-parenting-front/737579/19 "2015-11-15T18:45:06Z")
> [@Wolf333](#): > > reported for threadshitting Not really thread shitting in this case. OP in part positioned scenario as response to this who do not agree with lesbian families. Urbanredneck’s opinion may not be welcome or particularly enlightened but it’s a valid statement of a difference of opinion in the context of the OP which, in part, addressed people who hold that that opinion. ---
**Author:** ![Spud](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spud/32/347_2.png) [@Spud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spud)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2015, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-news-from-my-sisters-big-fat-lesbian-parenting-front/737579/20 "2015-11-15T19:06:13Z")
I just don’t understand why sexual orientation has anything to do in this thread. The dysfunctional part I see is kids having kids having kids… that have to be raised by great grandparents. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-news-from-my-sisters-big-fat-lesbian-parenting-front/737579.md?page=2)