# More on the Right Wing Daily show (commercial, specifically)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-on-the-right-wing-daily-show-commercial-specifically/392091>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 13, 2007, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-on-the-right-wing-daily-show-commercial-specifically/392091 "2007-02-13T23:04:46Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 9:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-on-the-right-wing-daily-show-commercial-specifically/392091/41 "2007-02-14T09:13:32Z")

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[QUOTE=Kimstu]  
The true heartbeat of funny is being able to poke fun at **yourself**.  
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Agreed. But it doesn’t seem like a lot of people have that ability. Witness all the “how dare you!” hand-wringing over gay penguins. Stewart may poke fun at all sides, but his biggest applause and laugh segments are those that poke fun of the right. Maybe as Washington swaps parties for a few years, his audience will morph from lefties to righties.

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**Author:** ![Dead\_Badger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/848f3c/32.png) [@Dead\_Badger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Badger)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-on-the-right-wing-daily-show-commercial-specifically/392091/42 "2007-02-14T12:02:17Z")

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[QUOTE=Liberal]  
Witness all the “how dare you!” hand-wringing over gay penguins.  
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All the one post, you mean? The one line, two sentence post, made by a guest?

Anyway. Offending people can be funny. Repeatedly telling people how you don’t care if you offend people is not funny. It’s not even meta-funny. It’s like people who repeatedly declare themselves to be “wacky” (“I’m a bit mad, me”), and then prove it by wearing a silly tie. Bill Hicks, for example, didn’t go around shouting “hey, look at me offending everyone!” - he got on with actually offending them.

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-on-the-right-wing-daily-show-commercial-specifically/392091/43 "2007-02-14T12:10:33Z")

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[QUOTE=Dead Badger]  
All the one post, you mean? The one line, two sentence post, made by a guest?  
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I can understand being blinded by partisanship, but damn. You do know how to spell “gay”, right?

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**Author:** ![Snooooopy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Snooooopy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snooooopy)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-on-the-right-wing-daily-show-commercial-specifically/392091/44 "2007-02-14T12:14:15Z")

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I thought the show title was riffing on MTV’s old _Half Hour Comedy Hour_.

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**Author:** ![Dead\_Badger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/848f3c/32.png) [@Dead\_Badger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Badger)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-on-the-right-wing-daily-show-commercial-specifically/392091/45 "2007-02-14T12:59:19Z")

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[QUOTE=Liberal]  
I can understand being blinded by partisanship, but damn. You do know how to spell “gay”, right?  
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I count about seven posts in this thread addressing the ad’s mention of gay penguins. Only one of those appears to me to be expressing offence at it; the rest are pointing out - quite rightly - that it’s just massively unfunny. But maybe this is “hand-wringing” to you. Who knows? You certainly seem to be a master of projection.

Speaking of which, I realise you love your little hinterland of dorky “neutrality” whereby you feel that you can just shout “partisan!” at all and sundry like a Polish informer who needs a new winter coat, but this UK-resident, some-time Conservative, some-time Green voter finds it more than slightly pathetic. Oh yeah, I’m just balls-out for those Democrats here in London.

Sheesh.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-on-the-right-wing-daily-show-commercial-specifically/392091/46 "2007-02-14T13:30:44Z")

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[QUOTE=CarnalK]  
But seriously, that is one pathetic promo. It’s clear that this show is just meant to be a right-wing sounding board and not an actual competitor to the Daily Show.  
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So what? Who says it has to be created in the image of _TDS_?

I don’t really care for FoxNews that much… except how it seems to tweak so many people around here for absolutely ridiculous reasons. It’s not a copy of _The Daily Show_– BFD. If it had been a copy, someone would be Pitting it for that reason.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-on-the-right-wing-daily-show-commercial-specifically/392091/47 "2007-02-14T13:42:11Z")

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Well, found a [segment](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjIfaMwIFxU&NR). Wow, a Marion Barry joke! Way to stay on the cutting edge! And the laugh track is clearly stuck on infinite loop.

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**Author:** ![DoctorJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctorj/32/2904_2.png) [@DoctorJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DoctorJ)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-on-the-right-wing-daily-show-commercial-specifically/392091/48 "2007-02-14T13:49:03Z")

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There’s something inherently funny about gay penguins. But wishing offense to gay penguins is really unfunny; it’s like pulling the wings off of flies. What did the gay penguins do to you?

Anyway, this kind of “look at how politically incorrect I am!” schtick is pure comedy gold to the right-wing nutbars. They’ll be saying what they’re all thinking, if it weren’t for the feminists/PC police/gay penguin advocates.

> [@](#):
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> So what? Who says it has to be created in the image of TDS?

IIRC, this was the stated concept–to skewer the left the same way other satirical news shows (which would be TDS and Colbert) skewer the right. I guess they didn’t notice how vicious Stewart has been to the Democratic primary candidates.

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**Author:** ![dnooman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/839c29/32.png) [@dnooman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dnooman)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-on-the-right-wing-daily-show-commercial-specifically/392091/49 "2007-02-14T13:54:30Z")

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[QUOTE=Bryan Ekers]  
Well, found a [segment](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjIfaMwIFxU&NR). Wow, a Marion Barry joke! Way to stay on the cutting edge! And the laugh track is clearly stuck on infinite loop.  
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That was awful. A joke about Obama’s initials being B.O. ? Is the show written by second graders?

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-on-the-right-wing-daily-show-commercial-specifically/392091/50 "2007-02-14T14:01:16Z")

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[QUOTE=Bryan Ekers]  
If the new show limits itself only to mocking left-wing politics, how’s it going to fill 30 minutes a day?  
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Ooh, I know:

“Chappaquiddick!” \<insert laugh track\>

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**Author:** ![DoctorJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctorj/32/2904_2.png) [@DoctorJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DoctorJ)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-on-the-right-wing-daily-show-commercial-specifically/392091/51 "2007-02-14T14:05:47Z")

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> If the new show limits itself only to mocking left-wing politics, how’s it going to fill 30 minutes a day?

Commercials: 8 minutes  
Hillary is an ugly shrill bitch: 4 minutes  
Political incorrectness (aka “being an asshole”) for its own sake: 4 minutes  
Ted Kennedy is a fat drunk: 4 minutes  
Clinton got a blowjob: 4 minutes  
Muslims ride camels and have weird names and wear funny things on their heads: 2 minutes  
That one Dixie Chick sure is a bitch: 2 minutes  
This post from some anonymous commenter on a Daily Kos diary shows that liberals sure are stupid: 1 minute  
Man alive, do we ever hate the French: 45 seconds  
Actual comedy: 15 seconds (if time allows)

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**Author:** ![Dead\_Badger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/848f3c/32.png) [@Dead\_Badger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Badger)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-on-the-right-wing-daily-show-commercial-specifically/392091/52 "2007-02-14T14:24:34Z")

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[QUOTE=DoctorJ]  
There’s something inherently funny about gay penguins.  
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Well this is the thing, innit. It’s very difficult _not_ to be funny about gay penguins; but they managed it. Twice!

I guess I am showing my filthy partisan nature, though. It’s true; I fucking hate bad comedy. The delivery of those two anchors was _awful_. But then on the few occasions I’ve seen Jon Stewart I tend to think he over-eggs it a bit, too. John Oliver’s a laugh, but then we had him first on the far superior “Mock the Week” (which, incidentally, _is_ a genuinely equal-opportunity political/current-events comedy show, but which for some strange reason feels no need to make this its unique selling point. Maybe because it’s actually [funny](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OWGf8NihAc)).

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**Author:** ![saoirse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@saoirse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saoirse)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-on-the-right-wing-daily-show-commercial-specifically/392091/53 "2007-02-14T14:55:24Z")

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[QUOTE=clayton\_e]  
So.. Predictions on how long it will last?

I actually give it a while.. at least a couple seasons…

Though its nearly likely, IMHO, that it would only go for six or seven episodes.  
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I think it will be on for several seasons. I think Fox News is more interested in keeping the show on than turning a profit on it. Rightwing dialectical materialism comes to comedy. Sounds hilarious.

If they wanted to make an appropriate response to the TDS, they should put it on Fox, instead of Fox news. Put it on Sunday night and let it sink or swim, or at least take the chance of taking a bath on it. Or is that idea a little too free market?

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**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-on-the-right-wing-daily-show-commercial-specifically/392091/54 "2007-02-14T15:10:06Z")

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**Dead Badger:**

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> I realise you love your little hinterland of dorky “neutrality” whereby you feel that you can just shout “partisan!” at all and sundry like a Polish informer who needs a new winter coat

Best metaphor ever. Well played, sir.

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-on-the-right-wing-daily-show-commercial-specifically/392091/55 "2007-02-14T15:17:33Z")

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[QUOTE=Dead Badger]  
Speaking of which, I realise you love your little hinterland of dorky “neutrality” whereby you feel that you can just shout “partisan!” at all and sundry like a Polish informer who needs a new winter coat, but this UK-resident, some-time Conservative, some-time Green voter finds it more than slightly pathetic. Oh yeah, I’m just balls-out for those Democrats here in London.  
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Despite your monumental delusion of self-importance — thinking yourself as critical to this discussion as a Chihuahua at a tea party wanting its belly rubbed — the fact of the matter is that you had not even posted when I made my original comment. Just so you know, I had not been thinking, “Badger must be out there somewhere, and so I hope he will realize that I’m talking about him.”

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**Author:** ![Snooooopy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Snooooopy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snooooopy)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-on-the-right-wing-daily-show-commercial-specifically/392091/56 "2007-02-14T15:28:41Z")

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[QUOTE=dnooman]  
That was awful. A joke about Obama’s initials being B.O. ? Is the show written by second graders?  
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I can’t help but grin at anything that pokes fun at Oprah and her “I get to be on the cover EVERY SINGLE MONTH! YAY!!!” magazine.

On the other hand, those two hosts were wretched even after I had lowered my expectations dramatically in preparation for viewing the clip.

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**Author:** ![NurseCarmen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-on-the-right-wing-daily-show-commercial-specifically/392091/57 "2007-02-14T15:42:02Z")

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The over-use of the laugh track (And the fact that they need one in the first place) is painful.

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**Author:** ![stolichnaya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bcef8e/32.png) [@stolichnaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stolichnaya)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-on-the-right-wing-daily-show-commercial-specifically/392091/58 "2007-02-14T15:43:50Z")

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Man, that was pretty bad. There are funny conservatives out there, I know several personally who are extremely funny. That’s right, some of my best friends are funny conservatives.

This is just wack.

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**Author:** ![Wolfian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/7ea924/32.png) [@Wolfian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolfian)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-on-the-right-wing-daily-show-commercial-specifically/392091/59 "2007-02-14T15:49:13Z")

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The only thing that make me even smile during that 2 minutes was the “Obama vs. Tiger Woods-Whose More Diverse” headline and wimps didn’t even sell that joke.

If the show is funny, good for them, but I don’t think its going to get much better than that because of many of the reason already mentioned in this and the other threads. Offense for the sake of offense is rarely funny.

> [@NurseCarmen](#):
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> The over-use of the laugh track (And the fact that they need one in the first place) is painful.

Stewie: Where did you get that thing [points at a laugh track]?  
Brian: I got it from the set of the Dharma and Greg show.  
Stewie: I’m surprised it had anything left in it.

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**Author:** ![clayton\_e](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c57346/32.png) [@clayton\_e](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clayton_e)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2007, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-on-the-right-wing-daily-show-commercial-specifically/392091/60 "2007-02-14T15:56:21Z")

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To be fair there are two mentions of bigotry on the part of the gay penguins… The guest and myself.

I just think its poor taste because even though its only “meh” on the offensive scale its the only “joke” of sorts they tried to put in their promo.

Expect self loathing gay hating frat boy mentality. In suits and red ties.

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