# More racism directed at Obama

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-racism-directed-at-obama/468416>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 17, 2008, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-racism-directed-at-obama/468416 "2008-10-17T18:11:15Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Koxinga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4af34b/32.png) [@Koxinga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koxinga)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2008, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-racism-directed-at-obama/468416/61 "2008-10-18T15:03:37Z")

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> [@An\_Arky](#):
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> I’m originally from Arkansas, and whenever I come across a story like that, I’m going “Oh, God, it’s going to be somebody from Arkansas” while the link’s loading, then scan the article and go WHEW! when I find out it isn’t. That ever happen to y’all wrt your home state?

Not really, but then for many purposes I tend not to consider East Texas as part of Texas proper. Those weirdos are scary.

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**Author:** ![Jolly\_Roger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/91b2a8/32.png) [@Jolly\_Roger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jolly_Roger)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2008, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-racism-directed-at-obama/468416/62 "2008-10-18T15:35:48Z")

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> [@Lust4Life](#):
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> Personally I would have found her explanation a little bit more believeable if the food had been Haggis,Curry and Sushi but there is something more important that we should be thinking about.
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> Isn’t it our duty to call the emergency services when we’re in the the presence of an on going suicide?
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> In this case of the Republican Party.
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> At least this election they’re showing consistancy in that the grass roots are obviously as dumb as their leadership.
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> What the hell is going on?
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> Has the Republican first team all buggered off on an overseas holiday?
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> I want Obama to win but in all fairness the Republicans do have some very intelligent people in their organisation,not that you’d think so at the moment.
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> Maybe they’ve all been abducted by aliens and are at this very moment being serially probed in a mother ship somewhere.
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> Yes that seems to be the most plausible explanation cos I’m fucked if I can think of another one.

It would raise my opinion of the republicans if McCain, Palin or another high ranking member denounced some of these things. But I get the feeling that _even if_ they don’t agree witgh the racists, they’re willing to sit back and let it roll in hopes that it will garner some votes.

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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2008, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-racism-directed-at-obama/468416/63 "2008-10-18T20:29:43Z")

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> [@flodnak](#):
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> I’ve been told that the stereotype of Blacks liking fried chicken and watermelon used to come with the assumption that the chicken and the 'melon were _stolen._ In other words, the people involved were too lazy to work, so they learned to like food that was easy to steal instead. Charming, if true, but I’d like to see more evidence for it before I believe that was a common belief and not just a few people’s spin on it.

:dubious: How is fried chicken easy to steal? Who fries chicken and then leaves it lying around unsupervised?

And as far as stealing watermelon . . . white people do that too. I was taught in school that it was ok to eat fruits/vegetables out of other peoples’ farms/gardens/orchards, etc, because Jesus did it and said it was ok (I wouldn’t do it but that’s probably just because I don’t believe in Jesus.)

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2008, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-racism-directed-at-obama/468416/64 "2008-10-18T20:58:41Z")

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[Just adding another one to the list](http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_j92PW5iEOfE/SPkvlZSBLEI/AAAAAAAAAR4/r6JSFUy6w6c/s1600-h/racistbf5.png).

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**Author:** ![Jenaroph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e8c25b/32.png) [@Jenaroph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jenaroph)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2008, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-racism-directed-at-obama/468416/65 "2008-10-18T21:00:17Z")

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> [@Cisco](#):
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> :dubious: How is fried chicken easy to steal? Who fries chicken and then leaves it lying around unsupervised?

Fried chicken, no, but chicken coops don’t usually have locks on the doors…

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**Author:** ![Indistinguishable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/90ced4/32.png) [@Indistinguishable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indistinguishable)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2008, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-racism-directed-at-obama/468416/66 "2008-10-18T21:02:10Z")

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> [@MandaJo](#):
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> I honestly think the foods pictured, however, are the least of it: calling them bucks (a very old, southren racist term implying an over-sexed, animalistic black man) and making them _food stamps_, associating African Americans w/ welfare, both seem more offensive to me.

I would think it highly likely that they’ve been called “bucks” simply because that’s what dollars are casually called, with the author not at any point aware of the similar old-fashioned slur. I imagine that is purely accidental, and of no great concern.

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**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2008, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-racism-directed-at-obama/468416/67 "2008-10-18T21:08:08Z")

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**Author:** ![MandaJo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac91a4/32.png) [@MandaJo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MandaJo)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2008, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-racism-directed-at-obama/468416/68 "2008-10-18T21:35:17Z")

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> [@Indistinguishable](#):
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> I would think it highly likely that they’ve been called “bucks” simply because that’s what dollars are casually called, with the author not at any point aware of the similar old-fashioned slur. I imagine that is purely accidental, and of no great concern.

But they aren’t dollars, they are food stamps.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2008, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-racism-directed-at-obama/468416/69 "2008-10-18T21:36:40Z")

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I believe the inclusion of the Kool-Aid wasn’t racist so much as a slam at Obama followers for being mindless fanatical imbibers of his socialistic Kool-Aid.

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**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2008, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-racism-directed-at-obama/468416/70 "2008-10-18T21:40:31Z")

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> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#):
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> I believe the inclusion of the Kool-Aid wasn’t racist so much as a slam at Obama followers for being mindless fanatical imbibers of his socialistic Kool-Aid.

Perhaps, but it seems more likely to be playing to a meme that is out there for a while about blacks lovin’ dey koolaid.\*

- I’ve heard it all my life but I can’t stand the stuff – I rather eat a cup of dry sugar, followed by a water chaser.

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**Author:** ![Indistinguishable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/90ced4/32.png) [@Indistinguishable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indistinguishable)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2008, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-racism-directed-at-obama/468416/71 "2008-10-18T21:50:43Z")

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> [@MandaJo](#):
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> But they aren’t dollars, they are food stamps.

Well, ordinary language isn’t particularly pedantic. Toys Я Us “Geoffrey bucks” weren’t dollars either, but the conceptual connection motivating the name is clear.

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**Author:** ![TWDuke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e495f1/32.png) [@TWDuke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TWDuke)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2008, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-racism-directed-at-obama/468416/72 "2008-10-18T22:45:07Z")

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> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#):
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> I believe the inclusion of the Kool-Aid wasn’t racist so much as a slam at Obama followers for being mindless fanatical imbibers of his socialistic Kool-Aid.

… and chicken symbolizes cowardice, and ribs means that he can’t take a joke, and watermelon, uh, watermelons are green on the outside like Obama is green behind the ears and red on the inside, red being the international color of communism. Yeah, that’s it.

No, the simplest and most likely explanation would be that these food items all have something in common, and that’s that they are all stereotypical favorites of stereotypical black people.

> **[Please God No](http://www.pleasegodno.com/)**

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> “Not only will this move expand the much needed food stamp program that ensures sustenance for millions of (black) children and needy adults, but it will also remind (the black) constituents of what they are at the store to buy. We see it as a win-win situation for the (black) community. It is like cash with a shopping list printed on it.”  
> “Red Kool-Aid, fried chicken, watermelon, and even pork ribs are displayed on the document as a reminder”, Plouffe continued, “The food stamp amount correlates to the cost of the item. For example, the $10 food stamp has things like ribs and chicken, while the $5 food stamp relevantly displays Collard Greens, and grape soda.”

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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-racism-directed-at-obama/468416/73 "2008-10-19T01:33:36Z")

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> [@MandaJo](#):
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> I honestly think the foods pictured, however, are the least of it: calling them bucks (a very old, southren racist term implying an over-sexed, animalistic black man) and making them _food stamps_, associating African Americans w/ welfare, both seem more offensive to me.

> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#):
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> I believe the inclusion of the Kool-Aid wasn’t racist so much as a slam at Obama followers for being mindless fanatical imbibers of his socialistic Kool-Aid.

Seriously . . . I swear to god I think reactionaries spend more time dreaming up ways to be offended than racists/jerks spend dreaming up ways to offend people.

(Granted ETF might be joking but Manda JO appears to have posted in earnest.)

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**Author:** ![bdgr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a87d85/32.png) [@bdgr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bdgr)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-racism-directed-at-obama/468416/74 "2008-10-19T01:51:18Z")

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> [@An\_Arky](#):
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> I’m originally from Arkansas, and whenever I come across a story like that, I’m going “Oh, God, it’s going to be somebody from Arkansas” while the link’s loading, then scan the article and go WHEW! when I find out it isn’t. That ever happen to y’all wrt your home state?

I was born in Nashville, Arkansas…Because Mineral Springs Arkansas didn’t have a hospital. Spent my summers there as a kid..

I grew and lived most of my life in Texas…

It’s best that I not watch the news.

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**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-racism-directed-at-obama/468416/75 "2008-10-19T01:58:19Z")

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> [@Cisco](#):
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> Seriously . . . I swear to god I think reactionaries spend more time dreaming up ways to be offended than racists/jerks spend dreaming up ways to offend people.
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> (Granted ETF might be joking but Manda JO appears to have posted in earnest.)

_Blink_

I don’t think you meant [_reactionary_](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reactionary). Usually that word refers to turn-back-the-clock ultraconservatism. You meant something more like _offenderati_, perhaps?

By the way I disagree that **Manda Jo** or **ETF** , joking or not, have to reach all that far to come up with those interpretations. I kinda doubt the “buck” thing myself - it’s just not common enough in CA, even as a slur, for me to think those Sacramento folks were actually making that allusion. Not that they’re not low enough, I just doubt they would have thought of it. But given the fried chicken and watermelon imagery, it’s not completely insane either. And the Kool-Aid crack has been explicitly used by anti-Obama folks to refer to his followers.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-racism-directed-at-obama/468416/76 "2008-10-19T05:14:07Z")

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And of course the real irony is that he can’t even eat ribs: he’s Muslim!

[QUOTE=Cervaise]  
[Just adding another one to the list](http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_j92PW5iEOfE/SPkvlZSBLEI/AAAAAAAAAR4/r6JSFUy6w6c/s1600-h/racistbf5.png).  
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He may be a fetus hating, fag loving, gun controlling abortion performing towel headed taxocrat, but at least Obama knows how and when to use fucking “quotation marks”.

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**Author:** ![Indistinguishable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/90ced4/32.png) [@Indistinguishable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indistinguishable)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-racism-directed-at-obama/468416/77 "2008-10-19T05:29:21Z")

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Well, so does the sign maker; they’ve clearly taken pains to employ the appropriate “scare quotes”. 🙂

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**Author:** ![paffinity](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ec9cab/32.png) [@paffinity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paffinity)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-racism-directed-at-obama/468416/78 "2008-10-19T06:34:16Z")

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Just wanted to point out one of the oddest displays of satirical racism I’ve ever seen: [seen underneath the Acropolis in Athens, Greece.](http://www.flickr.com/photos/herschell/2875225482/)

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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 7:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-racism-directed-at-obama/468416/79 "2008-10-19T07:44:01Z")

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> [@Tamerlane](#):
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> _Blink_
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> I don’t think you meant [_reactionary_](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reactionary). Usually that word refers to turn-back-the-clock ultraconservatism. You meant something more like _offenderati_, perhaps?

I meant what I said. Try not to go around “correcting” proper word use with made up words.

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**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 8:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-racism-directed-at-obama/468416/80 "2008-10-19T08:47:09Z")

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> [@Cisco](#):
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> I meant what I said. Try not to go around “correcting” proper word use with made up words.

Tsk. Touchy.

It may be technically correct, but it’s a bit dissonant looking in a political thread if you’re not using it to refer to extreme right-wing views.

But fair enough. Sorry I offended.

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