# More Secret Service Misconduct **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [October 16, 2014, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-secret-service-misconduct/701482 "2014-10-16T12:13:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Waymore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Waymore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waymore)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2014, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-secret-service-misconduct/701482/1 "2014-10-16T12:13:20Z")
Another [story](http://www.jrn.com/newschannel5/news/newschannel-5-investigates/Police-Chief-Accuses-Secret-Service-Of-Misconduct-279207151.html?lc=Tablet) has surfaced regarding misconduct within the Secret Service. Nashville’s police chief claim SS agents tried to have local police aid them in illegally entering a person’s home. The Secret Service scandal has fallen out of the news cycle, but I feel this is one of the most pressing issues in the nation today. Having such a disfunctional agency in charge of such important duties is asking for trouble. ---
**Author:** ![Cubsfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Cubsfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cubsfan)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2014, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-secret-service-misconduct/701482/2 "2014-10-16T13:52:54Z")
You think this is one of the MOST pressing issues in the US right now? This is actually pretty low on the list man. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2014, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-secret-service-misconduct/701482/3 "2014-10-16T16:56:23Z")
More? Like when they (GASP! Outrage!) they visited a hooker- in a area where doing so was completely legal?:dubious: I heard one of them bought a Lotto ticket once, too. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2014, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-secret-service-misconduct/701482/4 "2014-10-16T17:19:57Z")
> [@Waymore](#): > > The Secret Service scandal has fallen out of the news cycle… You mean, “The Ebola Cycle”? ---
**Author:** ![Waymore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Waymore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waymore)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2014, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-secret-service-misconduct/701482/5 "2014-10-16T18:32:38Z")
> [@Cubsfan](#): > > You think this is one of the MOST pressing issues in the US right now? This is actually pretty low on the list man. Yes, I think one of the hallmarks of a stable political process. If the Secret Service can’t protect the president, that’s a very pressing issue. ---
**Author:** ![Waymore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Waymore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waymore)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2014, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-secret-service-misconduct/701482/6 "2014-10-16T18:37:41Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > More? Like when they (GASP! Outrage!) they visited a hooker- in a area where doing so was completely legal?:dubious: > > I heard one of them bought a Lotto ticket once, too. :rolleyes: For reals? Remember the intruder who made it deep in the White House? Or the armed man who got on an elevator with the President? The laundry list of other breeches of security? Plus, the story in the link is egregious. Blatant violation of law and a botched investigation concerning the president’s safety. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2014, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-secret-service-misconduct/701482/7 "2014-10-16T18:39:11Z")
> [@Waymore](#): > > For reals? Remember the intruder who made it deep in the White House? Or the armed man who got on an elevator with the President? The laundry list of other breeches of security? > . How are those “misconduct”?😕 ---
**Author:** ![Waymore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Waymore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waymore)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2014, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-secret-service-misconduct/701482/8 "2014-10-16T18:40:44Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > How are those “misconduct”?😕 The agency in charge of securing the president failing to secure the president seems like misconduct to me. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2014, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-secret-service-misconduct/701482/9 "2014-10-16T19:30:24Z")
> [@Waymore](#): > > The agency in charge of securing the president failing to secure the president seems like misconduct to me. I just saw him on TV today, looks pretty “secure” to me. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2014, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-secret-service-misconduct/701482/10 "2014-10-16T21:38:02Z")
> [@Waymore](#): > > For reals? Remember the intruder who made it deep in the White House? Or the armed man who got on an elevator with the President? The laundry list of other breeches of security? Yes those were pretty bad. It’s a good thing that the potential for something bad happening never turned into something actually happening. Of course nothing compared to what has happened with other presidents when there were actual direct actions taken against them. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2014, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-secret-service-misconduct/701482/11 "2014-10-17T18:20:20Z")
I’d say it’s important for the same reason similar stories about cops are important. This isn’t even a heat of the moment thing, like a lot of these other stories. This is the Secret Service trying to do an end run around the constitution. Plus it’s a testament to the cops that they didn’t go along with it, despite the pressure from the official security of the President. It’s nice to hear stories about good cops. Law enforcement lying to get you to comply with their requests is actually one of the main reasons I distrust them so much. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2014, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-secret-service-misconduct/701482/12 "2014-10-17T20:51:47Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > I’d say it’s important for the same reason similar stories about cops are important. This isn’t even a heat of the moment thing, like a lot of these other stories. This is the Secret Service trying to do an end run around the constitution. > > Plus it’s a testament to the cops that they didn’t go along with it, despite the pressure from the official security of the President. It’s nice to hear stories about good cops. Law enforcement lying to get you to comply with their requests is actually one of the main reasons I distrust them so much. Hey, I give the Secret Service credit on this one. They tried to handle the situation by just faking a warrant. A lot of law enforcement agencies would have just decided the guy had a gun and shot him. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2014, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-secret-service-misconduct/701482/13 "2014-10-17T23:10:24Z")
What about [Secret Service agents kidnapping and eventually killing an FBI agent, as shown in this documentary](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDK8OtjE7O4)? And I want to know what The Secret Service knew about Benghazi, and when they knew it. ---
**Author:** ![Waymore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Waymore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waymore)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2014, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-secret-service-misconduct/701482/14 "2014-10-18T16:48:01Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > Yes those were pretty bad. It’s a good thing that the potential for something bad happening never turned into something actually happening. Of course nothing compared to what has happened with other presidents when there were actual direct actions taken against them. Agreed. I wasn’t alive then, but everything I’ve seen shows the Kennedy assassination was very detrimental to the nation. We don’t need to go through that again. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2014, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-secret-service-misconduct/701482/15 "2014-10-18T17:52:39Z")
The stories I’m generally most worried about, and which most need to be kept in the public’s eye, are ones where the people responsible for fixing it might decide it’s easier or more profitable to ignore the problem rather than address it. I don’t think that’s a problem with the SS breaches. As much as I think it would be a bad thing for the president to be killed, I’m pretty sure the president is even more against it. The nature of this particular scandal pretty much guarantees that the person with the most ability to fix it is going to be the person with the most invested in making sure it gets fixed. So, it’s not something that I’m terribly concerned about.