# More smililes? **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [May 28, 2010, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-smililes/541097 "2010-05-28T18:31:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Arnold\_Winkelried](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Arnold\_Winkelried](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arnold_Winkelried)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2010, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-smililes/541097/21 "2010-05-29T14:15:59Z")
> [@Saltire](#): > > We could do what we did before–Have Dopers design their own and everyone vote on the one (or two) we like best. Here are the candidates we had in our previous votations > **[nouilles.info](http://www.nouilles.info/smpoll.html)** > > easy noodle recipes,homemade noodle making,gluten free noodle dishes ---
**Author:** ![ToeJam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@ToeJam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ToeJam)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2010, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-smililes/541097/22 "2010-05-29T17:00:03Z")
I like the idea of that poll/survey to add maybe one new smiley every few years- The :dubious: and the :smack: smilies are two of my favorite ones next to the shocked and sad guys… That shoulda been an option on the new poll- just a vote to add a single smiley maybe every 2-4 years… ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2010, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-smililes/541097/23 "2010-05-29T17:08:38Z")
The only purpose I see to smilies is to get across a point that your writing may not make clear, like whether or not you are being sarcastic. The smilies that are here seem to work fine for that. I can’t stand when people use smilies willy-nilly. I’ll bet they’re the same people who line their rear car window with stuffed animals. ---
**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2010, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-smililes/541097/24 "2010-05-29T22:34:05Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > Because they start being used as a crutch. This is the SDMB - use your words. I do use my words and don’t use them as a crutch but as noted in cases some smileys are useful. I’m not suggesting a full range but more that might seem useful. Given all the political threads, moonbat and wingnut come to mind. I’d be happy to design them. ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2010, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-smililes/541097/25 "2010-05-29T22:37:37Z")
I want the Happy Jewish Guy back. He’s out in the Diaspora… let’s bring him back… 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Poster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Happy\_Poster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Poster)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2010, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-smililes/541097/26 "2010-05-29T23:00:29Z")
iirc the jew smiley was removed because of some spanish cretin who said something like {{smiley}} piss off big nose. I was purely lurking then though so probably wasn’t paying enough attention! ---
**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2010, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-smililes/541097/27 "2010-05-29T23:01:46Z")
Not an official submission, just a quickie. [Wingnut.](http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4011/4651311782_84608c3c7b_m.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2010, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-smililes/541097/28 "2010-05-29T23:21:34Z")
[Equal time.](http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4018/4651349078_0863567ca1_t.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Arnold\_Winkelried](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Arnold\_Winkelried](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arnold_Winkelried)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2010, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-smililes/541097/29 "2010-05-30T00:46:42Z")
Not speaking officially, but I would imagine that we should avoid submitting smilies for addition to the board without making sure that they weren’t created by someone else who hasn’t given permission for them to be used here. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2010, 7:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-smililes/541097/30 "2010-05-30T07:22:57Z")
What would be really cool is if there was a way to make smileys not render for people who don’t like them. As for me, all I can think of right now is a better embarrassed smiley. It looks more, um, flirtatious. I’d also, as I think I mentioned before, still like an “innocent” smiley. One example is a smiley with a halo. ---
**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2010, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-smililes/541097/31 "2010-05-30T16:01:38Z")
I always liked “barfy” back from our winter of missed content. Looking at the smily pad on the right, we’ve got room for two more to make a clean 5x3 matrix. Right now poor smacky is hanging out all by himself. Jewish guy was removed because he was saying “putz” and it was too easy to use as an insult in forums where insults weren’t allowed. ---
**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2010, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-smililes/541097/32 "2010-05-30T18:29:22Z")
> [@Arnold\_Winkelried](#): > > Not speaking officially, but I would imagine that we should avoid submitting smilies for addition to the board without making sure that they weren’t created by someone else who hasn’t given permission for them to be used here. Not sure if that was meant for me but I created both of those myself with Photoshop without refence and as I stated they are not official submissions as I doubt the specs are correct. Just a visual graphic suggestion. ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2010, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-smililes/541097/33 "2010-05-30T19:28:03Z")
> [@Lemur866](#): > > I always liked “barfy” back from our winter of missed content. Looking at the smily pad on the right, we’ve got room for two more to make a clean 5x3 matrix. Right now poor smacky is hanging out all by himself. > > Jewish guy was removed because he was saying “putz” and it was too easy to use as an insult in forums where insults weren’t allowed. Jewish guy was not saying putz. He was simply Jewish guy. He was removed for being too specific and kind of an in joke. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2010, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-smililes/541097/34 "2010-05-30T20:58:29Z")
> [@PlainJain](#): > > Given all the political threads, moonbat and wingnut come to mind. I’d be happy to design them. What would the purposes of those be? To help people insult others more? I can’t think of a better definition of using a smilie as a crutch than that. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2010, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-smililes/541097/35 "2010-05-30T22:36:42Z")
[Ahem…](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=398398) ---
**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2010, 7:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-smililes/541097/36 "2010-05-31T07:30:15Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > What would the purposes of those be? To help people insult others more? I can’t think of a better definition of using a smilie as a crutch than that. Your post makes no sense. If my words can insult people, but adding a smiley insults them “more” then apparently they do add something other than a crutch. But that is not my purpose. Can you please explain to me how the ‘dubious’ smiley adds anything that the words do not? It always seems to be tacked on to a post that could stand alone with out it. I strongly think this board needs a political section. I’m not going to search, but there are many instances of the PTB responding to such suggestions with something along the lines of ‘it will all die down soon’. It never does, it never will. There are many articulate posters on both sides of the political spectrum that add valuable input from their sides of the fence. On the other hand, there are a few completely looney posters that post nonsense so out of left/right field as to stagger the imagination. If it’s in the pit smileys are not needed, but in other forums it might serve to ‘flavor’ your response and allow you to remain civil given the forum you are in, A’la the :dubious: smilie (which is allowed in GQ [for example] without contention). If the CR bans all smileys I’ll sleep just fine. But your assertion that the ones we have are valid and adding more is over the line is without merit. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2010, 8:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-smililes/541097/37 "2010-05-31T08:33:50Z")
That which aids in the fight against ignorance is blessed. That which detracts is not. The best smilies act as _softeners_ - they lower the temperature of the debate, as opposed to expressing the exact varietal of the poster’s irritation. Smackie was an improved form of the embarrassed creature, who looks like it is performing acts banned in certain locales. Dubious is a gentler version of rolleyes, which is sorta in the reader’s face. We could use an improved winky I think: the existing one is a little corny. I produced this guy some year’s back: I’m now calling him :WellOK: [http://wm54.inbox.com/thumbs/2c\_130b92\_3bbb2b38\_oG.gif.thumb](http://wm54.inbox.com/thumbs/2c_130b92_3bbb2b38_oG.gif.thumb) He’s suppose to acknowledge the sentiment or possibly humor of the discussion partner, without necessarily conveying agreement or disagreement. “Thumbs up” and “Thumbs down” seems unlikely to communicate anything extra. Indeed, I suspect that it would lead to a lot of one-icon contentless posting. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2010, 11:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-smililes/541097/38 "2010-05-31T11:17:07Z")
> [@](#): > > If the CR bans all smileys I’ll sleep just fine. But your assertion that the ones we have are valid and adding more is over the line is without merit. Hilarious. I’m not defending ANY of the smilies. As to your other point… Insulting posters isn’t allowed in most forums. Giving people a moonbat smilie would therefore allow them to insult others. That would be “helping”, would it not? ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2010, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-smililes/541097/39 "2010-05-31T20:04:11Z")
**PlainJain** said: > [@](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > Originally Posted by Munch > > What would the purposes of those be? To help people insult others more? I can’t think of a better definition of using a smilie as a crutch than that. > > Your post makes no sense. If my words can insult people, but adding a smiley insults them “more” then apparently they do add something other than a crutch. There would be plenty of people who do nothing but quote their opponent, then post a :moonbat:. I know this, because they already to do it with :rolleyes:. That is the very definition of a crutch. > [@](#): > > Can you please explain to me how the ‘dubious’ smiley adds anything that the words do not? It always seems to be tacked on to a post that could stand alone with out it. Dubious is intended to emphasize the tone, though in most cases it isn’t strictly required - the tone is fairly obvious. > [@](#): > > On the other hand, there are a few completely looney posters that post nonsense so out of left/right field as to stagger the imagination. If it’s in the pit smileys are not needed, but in other forums it might serve to ‘flavor’ your response and allow you to remain civil given the forum you are in, A’la the :dubious: smilie (which is allowed in GQ [for example] without contention). Dubious conveys a tone of voice. :moonbat: and :wingnut: are insults - they’re labels for the poster. Insults are not allowed in GD and likely wouldn’t be allowed in any political debate forum. So you could only use them in the Pit anyway, and you just said they aren’t needed there. **Measure for Measure** said: > [@](#): > > We could use an improved winky I think: the existing one is a little corny. This winky is fine - I use him all the time. I have seen a winky other places with the mouth partially open that I find stupid and have to unwinky my posts. The only one here I don’t like is :o because many people can’t figure it out. If it isn’t obvious what it is conveying, it’s a horrible emoticon. Emoticons are intended to quickly convey the tone of voice. These graphical emoticons are even more visual than the ascii ones. If people can’t tell by the graphic what it means, it is a bad graphic. ---
**Author:** ![SoulFrost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f07891/32.png) [@SoulFrost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SoulFrost)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2010, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-smililes/541097/40 "2010-05-31T22:17:26Z")
> [@Irishman](#): > > The only one here I don’t like is :o because many people can’t figure it out. If it isn’t obvious what it is conveying, it’s a horrible emoticon. Emoticons are intended to quickly convey the tone of voice. These graphical emoticons are even more visual than the ascii ones. If people can’t tell by the graphic what it means, it is a bad graphic. Oh, come on–everybody knows that’s the jaundice smilie. :hepaticdistress: [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-smililes/541097.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-smililes/541097.md?page=3)