# More super-tough trivia

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [February 9, 2004, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-super-tough-trivia/228305 "2004-02-09T19:06:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![gonzoron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a6a055/32.png) [@gonzoron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzoron)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2004, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-super-tough-trivia/228305/41 "2004-02-11T19:34:54Z")

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> [@MaxTheVool](#):
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> 1. Who is “Siddig El Fadil”?

AKA Alexander Siddig. He played Dr. Bashir on Deep Space Nine.

> [@MaxTheVool](#):
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> 1. In old collections of _The Far Side_, there is something unique about the naming of the individual panels which is shared by a popular TV show. Name that show.

Total guess: Did they all start wiht “the one…” like Friends?

> [@MaxTheVool](#):
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> 1. What is the origin of the name “Emond’s Field”?

Do you mean within the book? or Where did Jordan come up with it?

> [@MaxTheVool](#):
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> 1. In the board game _Acquire_, is it possible to achieve a board state in which the game can not be finished? If the size of the board changed, would that affect the answer? Explain.

I don’t think so. It would only happen if all the remaining tiles were illegal plays, which would mean that all the chains would be safe (\>11 tiles) and threrefore the game would end. I don’t think it would change based on the size of the board, but I have a feeling I’m missing something, or you wouldn’t have asked the question.

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**Author:** ![lurkernomore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d6d6ee/32.png) [@lurkernomore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lurkernomore)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2004, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-super-tough-trivia/228305/42 "2004-02-11T19:39:00Z")

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> [@MaxTheVool](#):
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> 1. Who is “Siddig El Fadil”?

1. I think he was the doctor in ST-DS9

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**Author:** ![OffByOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/45deac/32.png) [@OffByOne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OffByOne)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2004, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-super-tough-trivia/228305/43 "2004-02-11T19:48:45Z")

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[QUOTE=MaxTheVool]  
OK, 15 more questions:  
84. What beverage has a museum in Waco, Texas?

Dr Pepper  
48. What was the clock speed of the 80286 chip in the original IBM PC AT?

6 Mhz

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**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2004, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-super-tough-trivia/228305/44 "2004-02-11T20:16:43Z")

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> [@MaxTheVool](#):
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> 1. Fill in the blank in the following line of dialogue: “Gentlemen, let’s broaden our minds. \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_?”
> 2. What scifi novel’s climax involves a courtroom revelation in which indistinguishable high-frequency sounds are pitched down until they are human-audible?

1. WAG “Edison balls?”

2. I know that I’m thinking of the right book. I just don’t have a copy and I read the thing over a decade ago. It’s just a question of whether the title includes “The Story Of” and whether it’s “Little Fuzz Face” “Little Furr Face” “Little Fuzzy Face” “Little Furry Face” or some other variation. Knowing I had the right title in mind, I Googled.

Little Fuzzy by H Beam Piper.

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**Author:** ![TheSnack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e19b73/32.png) [@TheSnack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheSnack)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2004, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-super-tough-trivia/228305/45 "2004-02-11T20:30:20Z")

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While I deplore that _vital_ Pacific War knowledge becomes “trivial” here, I can also offer a small correction: while the carriers sunk at Midway were correctly identified, the carrier sunk by a Japanese submarine after the battle was not HIRYU, but the U.S. YORKTOWN. There you go.

Oh, and I have no actual knowledge to add.

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**Author:** ![Catsmeow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Catsmeow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Catsmeow)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2004, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-super-tough-trivia/228305/46 "2004-02-11T20:53:16Z")

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:::quote  
65. Whose phone numbers include 970-4301, 863-6754, and 919-763-0090?:::

Alexi Darling from Rent

You can also email at DarlingAlexi Newscom dot net.

_G_

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**Author:** ![Shade](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2bfe46/32.png) [@Shade](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shade)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2004, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-super-tough-trivia/228305/47 "2004-02-11T20:53:57Z")

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> [@](#):
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> 1. In the board game Acquire, is it possible to achieve a board state in which the game can not be finished? If the size of the board changed, would that affect the answer? Explain.

I googled the rules because this sounded interesting, but they weren’t entirely clear. If a company has fewer than 11 squares, but none of its adjacent squares can be played on because they’re also adjacent to two companies each 11 or larger, is it considered ‘safe’ for the purposes of ending the game?

If not, I think such a company could be reached, and then never made safe or taken over.

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**Author:** ![Saltire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saltire/32/553_2.png) [@Saltire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saltire)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2004, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-super-tough-trivia/228305/48 "2004-02-11T20:59:22Z")

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> [@MaxTheVool](#):
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> 1. What is an R-Pentomino?

A particular arrangement of 5 filled cells which produces a surprisingly long lived and active ‘colony’ when used as a starting point in the famous cellular automaton ‘Life’.

> [@MaxTheVool](#):
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> 1. What is the name of the bad guys in the classic computer game _LodeRunner_?

Man, I should remember this specifically, but I’m mostly guessing. Fiends?

> [@MaxTheVool](#):
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> 1. What book advises you not to hire normal modern teenagers as babysitters, but instead to hire the kind of teenager who attends “Our Lady of Maximum Discomfort” high school, and who wants to grow up to be a nun?

Dave Barry’s ‘Babies and Other Hazards of Sex’? Again, a guess.

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**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2004, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-super-tough-trivia/228305/49 "2004-02-11T21:32:04Z")

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> [@kellner](#):
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> 76:
> 
> Freude, schoener Goetterfunken  
> Tochter aus Elysium  
> Wir betreten feuertrunken,  
> Himmlische dein Heiligtum …

Correct

> [@lachesis](#):
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> “Was that night on the marge of Lake Lebarge/I cremated Sam McGee.”

Correct

> [@peasea](#):
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> _83. In old collections of The Far Side, there is something unique about the naming of the individual panels which is shared by a popular TV show. Name that show._  
> Frasier
> 
> Maybe I’m supposed to know the answer, but I don’t, so I’ll repeat (well, paraphrase) my question: Are we supposed to answer only off the top of our heads?

Frasier is incorrect. And in general, you’re not supposed to google the answers, as that would make many of the questions pointlessly easy… although, let’s be honest, this is just a silly trivia game, so who cares?

> [@JackaRoe](#):
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> 1. What was the clock speed of the 80286 chip in the original IBM PC AT?  
> ~10Mhz

Incorrect

> [@gonzoron](#):
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> AKA Alexander Siddig. He played Dr. Bashir on Deep Space Nine.
> 
> Total guess: Did they all start wiht “the one…” like Friends?
> 
> Do you mean within the book? or Where did Jordan come up with it?
> 
> I don’t think so. It would only happen if all the remaining tiles were illegal plays, which would mean that all the chains would be safe (\>11 tiles) and threrefore the game would end. I don’t think it would change based on the size of the board, but I have a feeling I’m missing something, or you wouldn’t have asked the question.

Dr. Bashir is correct

Friends is correct, excellent guess

I meant within the book

Your answer to the acquire question is incorrect

[QUOTE=OffByOne]

> [@MaxTheVool](#):
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> OK, 15 more questions:  
> 84. What beverage has a museum in Waco, Texas?  
> Dr Pepper  
> 48. What was the clock speed of the 80286 chip in the original IBM PC AT?  
> 6 Mhz

Correct and correct

> [@DocCathode](#):
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> 1. WAG “Edison balls?”
> 
> 2. I know that I’m thinking of the right book. I just don’t have a copy and I read the thing over a decade ago. It’s just a question of whether the title includes “The Story Of” and whether it’s “Little Fuzz Face” “Little Furr Face” “Little Fuzzy Face” “Little Furry Face” or some other variation. Knowing I had the right title in mind, I Googled.
> 
> Little Fuzzy by H Beam Piper.

“Edison Balls” is incorrect, although I’m curious what it’s a reference to. (It’s certainly within the realm of possibility that the quote is repeated…)

_Little Fuzzy_ is correct (and a fine, but little-known, book)

> [@Catsmeow](#):
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> :::quote  
> 65. Whose phone numbers include 970-4301, 863-6754, and 919-763-0090?:::
> 
> Alexi Darling from Rent
> 
> You can also email at DarlingAlexi Newscom dot net.
> 
> _G_

Correct. (Or you can page me at…)

> [@Shade](#):
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> I googled the rules because this sounded interesting, but they weren’t entirely clear. If a company has fewer than 11 squares, but none of its adjacent squares can be played on because they’re also adjacent to two companies each 11 or larger, is it considered ‘safe’ for the purposes of ending the game?
> 
> If not, I think such a company could be reached, and then never made safe or taken over.

The rules certainly do not claim that such a company is “safe” for the purposes of ending the game. However, your analysis is incomplete. Is such a board configuration possible?

> [@Saltire](#):
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> A particular arrangement of 5 filled cells which produces a surprisingly long lived and active ‘colony’ when used as a starting point in the famous cellular automaton ‘Life’.
> 
> Man, I should remember this specifically, but I’m mostly guessing. Fiends?
> 
> Dave Barry’s ‘Babies and Other Hazards of Sex’? Again, a guess.

You’re right about The R-Pentomino and Dave Barry.

The bad guys in LodeRunner, however, remain unidentified…

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2004, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-super-tough-trivia/228305/50 "2004-02-11T21:45:06Z")

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1. I know it’s one of the Joker’s lines in _Batman_ , but I don’t have a copy handy and I don’t remember what the hell the next line is. I _think_ it might be an order to one of his henchmen to turn on the lights or something.

2. SETI Deep-Space array?

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**Author:** ![gonzoron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a6a055/32.png) [@gonzoron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzoron)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2004, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-super-tough-trivia/228305/51 "2004-02-11T22:21:42Z")

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> [@MaxTheVool](#):
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> Friends is correct, excellent guess

It’s the only sitcom I knew of that had an episode naming convention, and one that would fit with the Far Side, too.

> [@MaxTheVool](#):
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> I meant within the book

Not really sure why I asked. I still don’t know the answer, and I’m not wading through 10,000 pages to find it. 🙂

> [@MaxTheVool](#):
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> The rules certainly do not claim that such a company is “safe” for the purposes of ending the game. However, your analysis is incomplete. Is such a board configuration possible?

Ahh… I get it. Yes, it is possible. example:

033333333304  
100003300044  
111110044444  
111002200444  
110660055000  
006607705555  
666077770555  
666607777055  
666607777055

Company 2 can’t be merged, even though it’s not safe. Any of the 6 spaces around it would merge two safe companies. This is a 12x9 boards, which I think is standard. (My Palm version of Acquire is 12x9) I couldn’t fit it into a smaller board, so I’m inclined to say a smaller board wouldn’t have this problem, but I might have missed it.

Can’t take credit for it, **Shade** got the answer. I just illustrated it.

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**Author:** ![Shade](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2bfe46/32.png) [@Shade](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shade)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2004, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-super-tough-trivia/228305/52 "2004-02-11T22:23:45Z")

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> [@](#):
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> The rules certainly do not claim that such a company is “safe” for the purposes of ending the game. However, your analysis is incomplete. Is such a board configuration possible?

Ooh, I think you’re right! I’d forgotten that companies have to be at least 2 squares. I’ve drawn lots of diagrams, and I’m becoming convinced that you can’t make it work on a standard board. But I can’t explain it here. Basically neither a ‘corner’ or ‘wall’ of the company can be unplayable all the way round, as there’s no room for the other that make it so, and they begin to abut. eg. If company A was a long line, then a square adjacent to it would only be adjacent to one other company. If you had two lone squares of A, then you get

```auto

B AA
?C ?
??D??

```

since anything else in place of B, C, and D allow one of the empty square to be played in. But then none of the ? can be C, so C is only one square, which is wrong.

Now, can you do it on a different sized board? A board with a whole in, or maybe a corner, sure. But I don’t think you can do it on a rectangular board.

Anyone else want to help now?

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**Author:** ![Shade](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2bfe46/32.png) [@Shade](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shade)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2004, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-super-tough-trivia/228305/53 "2004-02-11T22:27:59Z")

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DOH! Yeah, I think gonzoron’s solution works after all. Thanks for crediting me.

MEMO: Preview, Shade, preview. 🙂

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**Author:** ![lno](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a8b319/32.png) [@lno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lno)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2004, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-super-tough-trivia/228305/54 "2004-02-11T22:47:35Z")

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The bad guys in Lode Runner were Bungelings. Now please pretend I didn’t waste the majority of the 80s in front of a PC Jr or an XT.

Leave me in my shame!

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**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2004, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-super-tough-trivia/228305/55 "2004-02-12T05:01:33Z")

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[QUOTE=MaxTheVool]

“Edison Balls” is incorrect, although I’m curious what it’s a reference to. (It’s certainly within the realm of possibility that the quote is repeated…)

_Little Fuzzy_ is correct (and a fine, but little-known, book)

QUOTE]  
Edison Balls are a ‘tool for consciousness expansion’, or ‘recreational pyschoactive device’ or just ‘illegal drug’. They appear in the film Rock And Rule.

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**Author:** ![mambozzy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@mambozzy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mambozzy)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2004, 11:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-super-tough-trivia/228305/56 "2004-02-12T11:37:58Z")

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My first instinct for #85 was also SETI but after thinking about the terms, my WAG would have to be the Hubble Space Telescope.

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**Author:** ![Hokkaido\_Brit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/d26b3c/32.png) [@Hokkaido\_Brit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hokkaido_Brit)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2004, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-super-tough-trivia/228305/57 "2004-02-12T12:37:32Z")

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1. 

dolphins

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2004, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-super-tough-trivia/228305/58 "2004-02-12T13:05:21Z")

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The archon of Mars weighs in with a mighty one answer:

1. **Poll** was the tenth fire-lizard “belonging” to Menolly, the harper girl from Half-Circle Sea Hold. A bronze, he was not however a clutch-brother to Menolly’s other fire-lizards, who were:

Beauty - gold “queen” female (named for the obvious reason)  
Rocky and Diver - bronze males (likewise)  
Lazybones, Mimic and Brownie - brown males (two named for behavioural characteristics and the third because of having no distinguishing features)  
Auntie One and Auntie Two - green females (named for their habit of nagging and pestering:)  
Uncle - blue male (and the smallest member of the clutch)

Without having _The White Dragon_ to hand I can’t be sure, but I think Poll is not even blood kin to the others. Beauty & co were all out of one wild clutch (_Dragonsong_). I thought when I saw this question that Poll might be one of Beauty’s offspring, but I’m unconvinced, because Menolly loses her virginity to Sebell when Rocky and Diver fly his queen, Kimi; whereas presumably she would have lost it earlier if Beauty had mated. I could be getting confused though. It’s not unheard of, and I haven’t read the Pern series for a year or two.

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**Author:** ![Omphaloskeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bcef8e/32.png) [@Omphaloskeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omphaloskeptic)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2004, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-super-tough-trivia/228305/59 "2004-02-12T23:26:09Z")

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> [@MaxTheVool](#):
>
> 1. What is “Namyats”?

A bridge bidding convention (“Stayman” backwards).

> [@](#):
>
> 1. What is the origin of the name “Emond’s Field”?

The name is a corruption of “Aemon,” but I don’t remember the whole story behind it.

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**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2004, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-super-tough-trivia/228305/60 "2004-02-16T22:15:33Z")

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> [@dutchboy208](#):
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> 1. I know it’s one of the Joker’s lines in _Batman_ , but I don’t have a copy handy and I don’t remember what the hell the next line is. I _think_ it might be an order to one of his henchmen to turn on the lights or something.
> 
> 2. SETI Deep-Space array?

You’re on the right track for 81.

SETI is incorrect for 85.

> [@gonzoron](#):
>
> Ahh… I get it. Yes, it is possible. example:
> 
> 033333333304  
> 100003300044  
> 111110044444  
> 111002200444  
> 110660055000  
> 006607705555  
> 666077770555  
> 666607777055  
> 666607777055
> 
> Company 2 can’t be merged, even though it’s not safe. Any of the 6 spaces around it would merge two safe companies. This is a 12x9 boards, which I think is standard. (My Palm version of Acquire is 12x9) I couldn’t fit it into a smaller board, so I’m inclined to say a smaller board wouldn’t have this problem, but I might have missed it.
> 
> Can’t take credit for it, **Shade** got the answer. I just illustrated it.

Correct, and in fact better than the answer I had come up with.

> [@lno](#):
>
> The bad guys in Lode Runner were Bungelings. Now please pretend I didn’t waste the majority of the 80s in front of a PC Jr or an XT.
> 
> Leave me in my shame!

Correct

> [@mambozzy](#):
>
> My first instinct for #85 was also SETI but after thinking about the terms, my WAG would have to be the Hubble Space Telescope.

Neither SETI nor Hubble is correct.

> [@Hokkaido Brit](#):
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> 1. 
> 
> dolphins

Incorrect

> [@Malacandra](#):
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> 1. **Poll** was the tenth fire-lizard “belonging” to Menolly, the harper girl from Half-Circle Sea Hold. A bronze, he was not however a clutch-brother to Menolly’s other fire-lizards, who were:

Correct

> [@Omphaloskeptic](#):
>
> A bridge bidding convention (“Stayman” backwards).
> 
> The name is a corruption of “Aemon,” but I don’t remember the whole story behind it.

Correct and correct

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