# More than 130 dead in plane crash in China {2022-03-21} **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [March 21, 2022, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-than-130-dead-in-plane-crash-in-china-2022-03-21/961426 "2022-03-21T12:18:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Machine\_Elf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@Machine\_Elf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Machine_Elf)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2022, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-than-130-dead-in-plane-crash-in-china-2022-03-21/961426/61 "2022-05-19T11:55:29Z")
> [@Voyager](#): > > I don’t know what the rules in China are, but in the US when I’ve been seated close to the front of the plane whenever a crew member uses the bathroom one of the flight attendants goes into the cockpit. AIUI, that was a new policy implemented after the Germanwings suicide crash, so as to avoid ever having one person alone locked in the cockpit. But you’re right, China may or may not have adopted that policy. > **[Germanwings Flight 9525 | Regulatory](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germanwings_Flight_9525#Regulatory)** > > In response to the incident and the circumstances of the co-pilot's involvement, aviation authorities in some countries implemented new regulations that require the presence of two authorised personnel in the cockpit at all times. Three days after the incident, the European Aviation Safety Agency issued a temporary recommendation for airlines to ensure that at least two crew members—including at least one pilot—were in the cockpit for the entire duration of the flight. Sev The British Psychologic... ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2022, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-than-130-dead-in-plane-crash-in-china-2022-03-21/961426/62 "2022-05-19T13:44:26Z")
Wiki’s list has been updated to include this flight. It lists it with the color green, meaning possible suicide. > **[Suicide by pilot | By pilots in control of whole flight](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_by_pilot#By_pilots_in_control_of_whole_flight)** ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2022, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-than-130-dead-in-plane-crash-in-china-2022-03-21/961426/63 "2022-05-19T18:49:45Z")
What is it with the Month of March, and specifically the 23rd??? ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2022, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-than-130-dead-in-plane-crash-in-china-2022-03-21/961426/64 "2022-05-19T19:31:05Z")
I have seen studies pointing at Springtime as the season where more suicides take place. > **[Seasonality of Suicidal Behavior](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3315262/)** > > A seasonal suicide peak in spring is highly replicated, but its specific cause is unknown. We reviewed the literature on suicide risk factors which can be associated with seasonal variation of suicide rates, assessing published articles from 1979 to... The reasons are still being investigated, but environmental factors (that increase during spring and can affect people that travel a lot) like allergens make people already affected by other factors to have a propensity to end it all. > Allergy has been previously linked to suicide [[13](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3315262/#B13-ijerph-09-00531)]. The seasonality of suicide has been shown to co-occur with the seasonal peaks in ambient pollen concentration during spring ( _i.e._ , tree pollen), summer ( _i.e._ , grass pollen), and fall ( _i.e._ , ragweed) [[19](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3315262/#B19-ijerph-09-00531)]. Pollens are aeroallergens and are capable of inducing an allergic inflammatory reaction when they reach the intranasal mucosa of susceptible individuals. The inflammatory reaction induced by aeroallergens involves the production of Th2 cytokines which, in animal models, have been associated with increased anxiety-like behavior, reduced social interaction [[51](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3315262/#B51-ijerph-09-00531)] and aggressive behavior [[52](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3315262/#B52-ijerph-09-00531)] all of which can be considered as endophenotypes for suicidal behavior [[53](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3315262/#B53-ijerph-09-00531)]. Furthermore, the seasonal peak in aeroallergens resulting in the concomitant worsening of allergy symptoms could (via inflammatory mediators of worsening allergy symptoms) potentially worsens depressive symptoms, anxiety and impulsivity in mood disorder patients, resulting in exacerbated risk of suicidal behavior. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2024, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-than-130-dead-in-plane-crash-in-china-2022-03-21/961426/65 "2024-03-05T02:11:40Z")
Bumping this because Mayday: Air Disaster just released a video on this crash. Mayday: Air Disaster does high quality reenactment-style documentaries. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/nW-QlFTjRiU/maxresdefault.jpg "SHOCKING Cargo Plane Disaster Occurs at the Busiest Airfield | Mayday Air Disaster") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nW-QlFTjRiU) ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2024, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-than-130-dead-in-plane-crash-in-china-2022-03-21/961426/66 "2024-03-05T02:19:50Z")
That seems to be about a completely different crash? Maybe you were looking for this thread: > [@National Air Cargo 747-400 crashes at Bagram AFB afghanistan](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/national-air-cargo-747-400-crashes-at-bagram-afb-afghanistan/657167/23): > > Honestly, it sounds like the “oh fuck” is because the road is blocked and he can’t get where he wants to go. It’s long after the impact and after he tries to maneuver through the stopped traffic and make a 3-point turn. ? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-than-130-dead-in-plane-crash-in-china-2022-03-21/961426.md?page=3)