# More than 73% of my patients have covid now

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**Category:** The Quarantine Zone\
**Tags:** covid-quarantine\
**Created:** [October 13, 2020, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-than-73-of-my-patients-have-covid-now/922839 "2020-10-13T01:23:19Z")\
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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2020, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-than-73-of-my-patients-have-covid-now/922839/21 "2020-10-13T17:48:58Z")

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I’m so sorry. Best wishes.

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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2020, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-than-73-of-my-patients-have-covid-now/922839/22 "2020-10-13T17:52:07Z")

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I defer to your knowledge of that system and apologize for misinterpreting the remarks you made and that I quoted as referring to my system. Because we too cut off all visitors in march.

Sounds horrendous there. I’d not want to work in that sort of correctional system. while my system has been plagued with fits and starts and restarts and constantly shifting recommendations to follow, along with shortages of sanitizer, masks, etc etc at least I can say we’ve been trying to do the right thing.

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**Author:** ![SmartAleq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smartaleq/32/163_2.png) [@SmartAleq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAleq)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2020, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-than-73-of-my-patients-have-covid-now/922839/23 "2020-10-13T18:00:19Z")

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It’s pretty awful and nerve wracking. The vast majority of people in the state are on the west side of the Cascades while the majority of inmates are housed way out in the boonies on the east side–which means any change in equilibrium produces a way outsized change in the living conditions of our incarcerated brethren. COVID and then the wildfires have strained the system to the snapping point and the flat stubborn refusal of law enforcement to obey the mask and social distancing ordinances is just a slap in the face on top of it. I guess we’re lucky that the strain of COVID they mostly seem to be getting is relatively mild because most people are getting over it but our prison population is aging and a large percentage are medically fragile. Also, the governor is a weenie who won’t start releasing people who are near the end of their sentences, if she’d just do that it would take a lot of pressure off the available resources. Snake River had so many COs out of commission the inmates went on 23 hour lockdown with no food other than two bag lunches (a peanut butter sandwich and a piece of fruit) per day for 2-3 weeks straight. It’s a wonder they didn’t all riot.

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**Author:** ![Retzbu\_Tox](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/retzbu_tox/32/11829_2.png) [@Retzbu\_Tox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Retzbu_Tox)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2020, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-than-73-of-my-patients-have-covid-now/922839/24 "2020-10-13T18:18:16Z")

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I am a supervisor at a small (32 capacity) juvenile detention center that serves multiple rural counties. We went for many months with no COVID-19 cases, and have been lucky enough to never have more than one kid test positive at a time in the last couple of months. Every juvenile is quarantined upon arrival while we wait for their test results, and they stay in quarantine for 10-14 days (whatever orders the nurse relays to us for any particular kid) if they test positive. We have tried to reduce unnecessary trips out of the facility and there are no face-to-face family visits since sometime around March or April. We are instead doing everything by phone or Zoom when possible. My mind boggles at the thought of 400 inmates being sick at the same time.  
**Qadgop** - Once the numbers are that high in a prison, does housing reassignment become counterproductive, with attempts to keep the COVID negatives housed separately from the positives being instead more likely to just spread it around more due to increased movement and new contacts?

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**Author:** ![Treppenwitz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treppenwitz/32/3445_2.png) [@Treppenwitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Treppenwitz)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2020, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-than-73-of-my-patients-have-covid-now/922839/25 "2020-10-13T19:13:24Z")

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Hell, QtM, stay safe.

How is it possible to have had no deaths yet if that many are sick? Presumably if you have 400 recovered, this has been going on for some time. A very young population?

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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2020, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-than-73-of-my-patients-have-covid-now/922839/26 "2020-10-13T21:30:08Z")

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Luck to you, brother.

😰

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**Author:** ![filmore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7993a0/32.png) [@filmore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/filmore)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2020, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-than-73-of-my-patients-have-covid-now/922839/27 "2020-10-13T21:36:28Z")

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It’s great that you haven’t caught it in that environment. Hopefully it stays that way. What sort of personal protection measures are you taking for yourself?

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2020, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-than-73-of-my-patients-have-covid-now/922839/28 "2020-10-13T21:44:10Z")

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I recall hearing about the first Statesville prisoner to require outside hospitalization and I thought, Holy Hell, this is going to ravage prisons. Then I stopped hearing about it.  
Sorry to hear this news, and I hope you can take every available precaution, be rewarded by those precautions, and still serve your particular noble calling.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2020, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-than-73-of-my-patients-have-covid-now/922839/29 "2020-10-13T22:09:39Z")

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By the way, off topic, but “Stateville”. I should know better, I’m from that area. Statesville is the haunted house nearby.

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**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2020, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-than-73-of-my-patients-have-covid-now/922839/30 "2020-10-13T23:28:21Z")

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> [@Dr\_Paprika](#):
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> The good news is you may have been exposed to enough colds to protect you.

WTF is this about?

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**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2020, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-than-73-of-my-patients-have-covid-now/922839/31 "2020-10-13T23:41:40Z")

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Many colds and illnesses like SARS and MERS are coronaviruses. There are some indications that some people seem to be more resistant to Covid-19. This may also be true in Africa, although testing rates are probably lower there on average. Health care workers get exposed to a lot of “what’s going around”, and in some cases previous colds seem to be protective. Not enough is known to provide details, since most people are exposed to some colds (though fewer, and many colds aren’t coronavirus).

> **[Coronavirus (COVID-19) Overview](https://www.webmd.com/covid/coronavirus)**
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> COVID-19 is a new type of coronavirus that causes mild to severe cases. Here’s a quick guide on how to spot symptoms, risk factors, prevent spread of the disease, and find out what to do if you think you have it.

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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2020, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-than-73-of-my-patients-have-covid-now/922839/32 "2020-10-14T12:11:21Z")

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> [@Treppenwitz](#):
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> How is it possible to have had no deaths yet if that many are sick? Presumably if you have 400 recovered, this has been going on for some time. A very young population?

Young population, close monitoring of high risk folks, early shipping them out to the hospital when they get wobbly, basically

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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2020, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-than-73-of-my-patients-have-covid-now/922839/33 "2020-10-14T12:12:20Z")

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> [@Retzbu\_Tox](#):
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> Once the numbers are that high in a prison, does housing reassignment become counterproductive, with attempts to keep the COVID negatives housed separately from the positives being instead more likely to just spread it around more due to increased movement and new contacts

good question, damfino. The CDC is actually here taking a look to see if they can figure out the answers to that sort of question

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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2020, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-than-73-of-my-patients-have-covid-now/922839/34 "2020-10-14T12:15:15Z")

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> [@Dr\_Paprika](#):
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> The good news is you may have been exposed to enough colds to protect you

Yeah, the first 25 years of my career consisted of many, many URIs (along with other viral syndromes) every damn year. Then suddenly they began to tail off. Now I get a cold/viremia every 2-3 years, it seems. They also tend to be pretty mild when they do happen now. Here’s to hoping I had LOTS of the right type of URIs over time.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2020, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-than-73-of-my-patients-have-covid-now/922839/35 "2020-10-14T12:48:31Z")

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Could you translate please, what is a URI?

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2020, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-than-73-of-my-patients-have-covid-now/922839/36 "2020-10-14T13:10:21Z")

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I’m guessing “upper respiratory infection” in the context of getting colds.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2020, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-than-73-of-my-patients-have-covid-now/922839/37 "2020-10-14T13:17:20Z")

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That makes perfect sense, thank you. My coffee hadn’t kicked in yet.

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**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2020, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-than-73-of-my-patients-have-covid-now/922839/38 "2020-10-14T13:32:03Z")

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Sometimes also written URTI for in-_tract_-able cases.

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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2020, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-than-73-of-my-patients-have-covid-now/922839/39 "2020-10-14T14:50:53Z")

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> [@filmore](#):
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> What sort of personal protection measures are you taking for yourself?

N95 mask always on at work; face shield/gloves/gown added when seeing patients.

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**Author:** ![Retzbu\_Tox](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/retzbu_tox/32/11829_2.png) [@Retzbu\_Tox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Retzbu_Tox)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2020, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-than-73-of-my-patients-have-covid-now/922839/40 "2020-10-14T16:07:30Z")

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On the topic of the common cold helping with coronavirus resistance, I found this Wikipedia article interesting, and it has links to further citations.  
[Coronavirus - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coronavirus#:~:text=Six%20species%20of%20human%20coronaviruses,of%20human%20coronaviruses%20altogether).  
There are around 200 viruses that cause “common cold” symptoms. 40% to 50% of colds are caused by rhinoviruses, 15% are due to coronaviruses, and the rest are due to various other viruses. The 15% that are due to coronaviruses are divided up between Human Coronavirus OC43, HCoV HKU1, HCoV 229E, and HCoV NL63. If you’ve had one or more of the four “common cold” coronaviruses, then you may have some resistance to the three coronaviruses that can cause more severe symptoms: Middle East respiratory syndrome-related coronavirus (MERS-CoV), Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus (SARS-CoV), and Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2). That last one is the virus that causes COVID-19.

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