# More Watchmen Goodies!

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [December 31, 2008, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-watchmen-goodies/479326 "2008-12-31T06:29:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![freekalette](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/50afbb/32.png) [@freekalette](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/freekalette)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2008, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-watchmen-goodies/479326/1 "2008-12-31T06:29:03Z")

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This time it’s a behind the scenes bit, interlaced with some old footage and a few new bits. [Ain’t it Cool](http://www.aintitcool.com/node/39626) to the rescue.

Once again, Mr. Snyder shows us that he loves the source material, and is taking everything very seriously as far as translation. He’s got some balls to do what everyone else said was impossible, and I hope he gets the accolades he deserves for bringing so much care to this project.

I’m still utterly geeked about seeing this, but am unsure about the deal with the Fox/Warner legal issues. Any resident attorney types want to take a stab at figuring out if and when this movie is going to hit theater screens?

That’s all for me tonight; it’s off to bed now. Will be back tomorrow to discuss further.

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**Author:** ![Asimovian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asimovian/32/172_2.png) [@Asimovian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asimovian)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2009, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-watchmen-goodies/479326/2 "2009-01-06T17:13:54Z")

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I’ve decided not to watch any more Watchmen trailers. I don’t see the point. I already know I’m going to go see this movie on opening night, and I’m already excited about. No reason to have any more info given away to me than necessary. I will also be striving to avoid reviews before it’s released.

I had not heard about the legal issues, however. This scares me. Give me my damn movie!

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**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2009, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-watchmen-goodies/479326/3 "2009-01-06T18:00:11Z")

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Looks very cool - once again.

EW magazine had a small blurb about the lawsuits - apparently Jan 20th is the trial date. I hope we get a sense of whether the March release date is going to actually happen sometime soon…

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**Author:** ![freekalette](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/50afbb/32.png) [@freekalette](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/freekalette)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2009, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-watchmen-goodies/479326/4 "2009-01-07T00:19:32Z")

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So, like, is it the 20th yet? _jitters from needing a fix_ I’ll be pissed as it is if anything happens to screw this up, but I need to know one way or the other!

I’m hitting up Ain’t it Cool about three times a day - I figure they’ll be the ones to break it when something does happen. You guys know that once I hear it, I’ll be letting y’all know!

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2009, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-watchmen-goodies/479326/5 "2009-01-07T00:23:14Z")

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Look at the Japanese Trailer here. It has scenes not in any of the other trailers I’ve seen thus far:

> **[Awesome Japanese WATCHMEN trailer with tons of new footage! Come see!](http://legacy.aintitcool.com/node/39675)**
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> Ahoy, squirts! Quint here. Damn this looks good No delays! No delays! Please Movie Gods, solve the legal issue and give us this movie on March 6th! TrailerAddict has the trailer, embedded below!

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2009, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-watchmen-goodies/479326/6 "2009-01-07T00:47:44Z")

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At the risk of having to permanently turn in my fanboy card, I wasn’t aware it was even close to being released. So now, I’m excited. And the link did a great job of whetting my appetite to see it. The only thing that worries me is that the actors playing the Silk Spectre and Ozymandias, don’t gibe with my expectatation. Ozy looks like a skinny wimp, and the Spectre looks too … cardboardy (yes, I get to make up my own words). But it’s just a trailer, so of course I’ll withhold judgment.

Now I’m off to learn about the legal issues.

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**Author:** ![freekalette](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/50afbb/32.png) [@freekalette](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/freekalette)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2009, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-watchmen-goodies/479326/7 "2009-01-07T01:03:26Z")

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**CalMeacham** , you are officially my hero of the day! Thanks so much for that. (See what happens? I tell everyone I’ll scour for updates, and the updates happen while I’m posting here. Good grief!)

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Credible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a8b319/32.png) [@Justin\_Credible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Credible)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2009, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-watchmen-goodies/479326/8 "2009-01-07T02:37:44Z")

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I can’t help it anymore; I’m so excited! I am personally going to start a riot if the movie isn’t released in March.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2009, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-watchmen-goodies/479326/9 "2009-01-07T02:46:12Z")

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If I watch the trailer one more time I’m gonna start bouncing in my seat the way I did when Beast finally cut loose in X3.

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2009, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-watchmen-goodies/479326/10 "2009-01-07T21:32:13Z")

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I’m reading the TPB for the first time right now, and am looking forward to the movie. Having just been exposed, though, I’m not quite as excited.

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**Author:** ![shy\_guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a6a055/32.png) [@shy\_guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shy_guy)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2009, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-watchmen-goodies/479326/11 "2009-01-07T21:44:12Z")

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> [@Aesiron](#):
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> I’m reading the TPB for the first time right now, and am looking forward to the movie. Having just been exposed, though, I’m not quite as excited.

I’ve read Watchmen countless times since I bought the TPB when I was in middle school (1997) and I couldn’t conceivably be less excited about the movie than I am right now.

_shrug_

Still think making it into a movie is pointless.

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**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2009, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-watchmen-goodies/479326/12 "2009-01-07T21:49:23Z")

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Sorry, but … _TPB_?

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2009, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-watchmen-goodies/479326/13 "2009-01-07T21:52:01Z")

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Trade paperback.

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**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2009, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-watchmen-goodies/479326/14 "2009-01-07T22:29:39Z")

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_Gracias._

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**Author:** ![freekalette](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/50afbb/32.png) [@freekalette](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/freekalette)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2009, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-watchmen-goodies/479326/15 "2009-01-09T16:43:54Z")

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[Here](http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/2008-12-6-motion-captured/posts/2009-1-8-an-open-letter-from-watchmen-producers) is a letter from Watchmen producer Lloyd Levin that gives some insight into the legal issues surrounding the movie.

I find this bit

> [@](#):
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> From my point of view, the flashpoint of this dispute, came in late spring of 2005. Both Fox and Warner Brothers were offered the chance to make Watchmen. They were submitted the same package, at the same time. It included a cover letter describing the project and its history, budget information, a screenplay, the graphic novel, and it made mention that a top director was involved.
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> And it’s at this point, where the response from both parties could not have been more radically different.
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> The response we got from Fox was a flat “pass.” That’s it. An internal Fox email documents that executives there felt the script was one of the most unintelligible pieces of shit they had read in years. Conversely, Warner Brothers called us after having read the script and said they were interested in the movie - yes, they were unsure of the screenplay, and had many questions, but wanted to set a meeting to discuss the project, which they promptly did. Did anyone at Fox ask to meet on the movie? No. Did anyone at Fox express any interest in the movie? No. Express even the slightest interest in the movie? Or the graphic novel? No.

pretty interesting.

What do you guys think?

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**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2009, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-watchmen-goodies/479326/16 "2009-01-09T18:20:52Z")

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I think it looks like Warner Bros. is in a precarious legal position. One hopes that they can throw a couple million settlement to Fox and make it go away quickly. It looks to this completely untrained legal mind that it’s going to come down to how evil Fox wants to be about it. If Fox keeps this movie from being released, I will personally fly to Hollywood and kick all of their executives in the balls (assuming they have balls).

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**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2009, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-watchmen-goodies/479326/17 "2009-01-09T20:44:28Z")

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Fox v. Warner is, IIRC, the same brain trust that has kept the _Batman_ TV series from being released on DVD, so I have very little faith in this being resolved either amicably or quickly.

Where’s my blood-stained smiley?

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2009, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-watchmen-goodies/479326/18 "2009-01-09T21:10:00Z")

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I’m looking forward to it with cautious optimism. I still like the first trailer best, though, very moody and dreary.

And I’m still working on a script for Muppet Watchmen, dammit. Dr. Gonzo! (“Camilla! I was only trying to please you!”) Fozzimandius! Frogshach! You wanna see it. Admit it.

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**Author:** ![freekalette](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/50afbb/32.png) [@freekalette](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/freekalette)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2009, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-watchmen-goodies/479326/19 "2009-01-09T21:30:05Z")

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> I’m looking forward to it with cautious optimism. I still like the first trailer best, though, very moody and dreary.
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> And I’m still working on a script for Muppet Watchmen, dammit. Dr. Gonzo! (“Camilla! I was only trying to please you!”) Fozzimandius! Frogshach! You wanna see it. Admit it.

I think I love you. That’s the coolest thing I’ve ever heard of. _begins making plans to stalk **Love Rhombus** until this movie gets made_

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2009, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-watchmen-goodies/479326/20 "2009-01-09T21:36:03Z")

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> [@freekalette](#):
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> I think I love you. That’s the coolest thing I’ve ever heard of. _begins making plans to stalk **Love Rhombus** until this movie gets made_

_closes the blinds and dives under the bed_ :eek:

Thank you very much. Stalk away! 🆒

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