# More wikipedia wackiness

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-wikipedia-wackiness/578297>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 13, 2011, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-wikipedia-wackiness/578297 "2011-04-13T23:04:29Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2011, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-wikipedia-wackiness/578297/1 "2011-04-13T23:04:29Z")

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From a friend.

[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emile\_Galle](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emile_Galle)

An article on a French artist in 1904 mentions that he “publicly condemned the Armenian Genocide”.

Of course the Armenian Holocaust(which may have constituted a genocide) didn’t occur until almost eleven years later.

Also, I love the wikipedia classifying the Battle of Kosovo “as a draw”.

[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle\_of\_Kosovo](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Kosovo)

It was mourned for centuries as the crushing defeat of Christendom in the Balkans and the battle which forced Christians in the Balkans to submit to the Ottomans and Wikipedia claims it was “a draw”.

That’s certainly not the way Serb nationalists have traditionally viewed it.

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**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2011, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-wikipedia-wackiness/578297/2 "2011-04-13T23:34:41Z")

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Wiki wacky? Whoo!

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**Author:** ![RadioWave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/91b2a8/32.png) [@RadioWave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RadioWave)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2011, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-wikipedia-wackiness/578297/3 "2011-04-13T23:49:59Z")

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The writer probably conflated the genocide with the Hamidian massacres of the 1890’s.

[Wiki.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamidian_massacres)

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**Author:** ![Arnold\_Winkelried](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Arnold\_Winkelried](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arnold_Winkelried)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2011, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-wikipedia-wackiness/578297/4 "2011-04-13T23:52:13Z")

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[more wackiness](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winkelried)  
“The historicity of Winkelried or his deed cannot be substantiated.”  
That just makes me so ANGRY! 😉

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**Author:** ![6ImpossibleThingsB4Breakfast](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/6/e19adc/32.png) [@6ImpossibleThingsB4Breakfast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/6ImpossibleThingsB4Breakfast)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2011, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-wikipedia-wackiness/578297/5 "2011-04-13T23:55:56Z")

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> [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](#):
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> Wiki wacky? Whoo!

Brilliant.

I actually thought it _was_ Wakipedia; until someone corrected me.

Wa_n_kipedia. Apparently.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2011, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-wikipedia-wackiness/578297/6 "2011-04-14T00:08:25Z")

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> [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](#):
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> Wiki wacky? Whoo!

She used to sing to me by moonlight  
On Honolu-u-lu bay …

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**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2011, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-wikipedia-wackiness/578297/7 "2011-04-14T00:19:00Z")

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I once claimed that the French first popularized the modern drinking straw, and would often signal an end to their meals by shoving one up each nostril, like a walrus.

I was unable to find a cite for my claims, and somebody deleted it within 20 minutes.

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**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2011, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-wikipedia-wackiness/578297/8 "2011-04-14T00:20:27Z")

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> [@RadioWave](#):
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> The writer probably conflated the genocide with the Hamidian massacres of the 1890’s.
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> [Wiki.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamidian_massacres)

That’s hardly a compelling defense of wikipedia.

There’s a reason it’s nearly universally regarded as an extremely undeniable source.

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2011, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-wikipedia-wackiness/578297/9 "2011-04-14T00:28:31Z")

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I first noticed [this](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academy_award) during the Oscar telecasts; despite pointing it out in the Discussion section, the phony actor names are all still there, except for the 1950’s movies I edited, at which point I said “fuck it, let the next slob fix the rest”. More than a month later and I’m still waiting, despite dozens of other edits in the meanwhile.

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**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2011, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-wikipedia-wackiness/578297/10 "2011-04-14T00:39:51Z")

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> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#):
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> That’s hardly a compelling defense of wikipedia.
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> There’s a reason it’s nearly universally regarded as an extremely undeniable source.

So edit it, or at least mention it on the talk page. That’s how Wikipedia is supposed to work, it’s not magically accurate from the beginning.

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**Author:** ![6ImpossibleThingsB4Breakfast](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/6/e19adc/32.png) [@6ImpossibleThingsB4Breakfast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/6ImpossibleThingsB4Breakfast)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2011, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-wikipedia-wackiness/578297/11 "2011-04-14T00:42:56Z")

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Oh, come on **John DiFool**! _Gone with the Wind_ would have been \*nothing \*without Bob Hope.

Frankly, my dear, Wankipedia doesn’t give a damn.

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**Author:** ![Raygun99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Raygun99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raygun99)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2011, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-wikipedia-wackiness/578297/12 "2011-04-14T00:43:33Z")

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> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#):
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> That’s hardly a compelling defense of wikipedia.
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> There’s a reason it’s nearly universally regarded as an extremely undeniable source.

**No** encyclopedia should be used as a primary source.

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**Author:** ![Arnold\_Winkelried](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Arnold\_Winkelried](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arnold_Winkelried)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2011, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-wikipedia-wackiness/578297/13 "2011-04-14T00:51:03Z")

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> [@John\_DiFool](#):
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> I first noticed [this](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academy_award) during the Oscar telecasts; despite pointing it out in the Discussion section, the phony actor names are all still there, except for the 1950’s movies I edited, at which point I said “fuck it, let the next slob fix the rest”. More than a month later and I’m still waiting, despite dozens of other edits in the meanwhile.

What is it that’s so wrong? I can’t tell. There is [a table](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academy_award#Ceremony) showing Academy Award ceremony dates and the Hosts for the awards. The column on the right (Hosts) is supposed to be the Masters of Cermony for that particular award ceremony, not actors in the movie that was the Best Picture winner. Or am I totally confused?

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**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2011, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-wikipedia-wackiness/578297/14 "2011-04-14T00:51:18Z")

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> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#):
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> That’s hardly a compelling defense of wikipedia.
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> There’s a reason it’s nearly universally regarded as an extremely **undeniable** source.

D’oh.

I meant unreliable.

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**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2011, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-wikipedia-wackiness/578297/15 "2011-04-14T00:54:39Z")

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> [@Raygun99](#):
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> **No** encyclopedia should be used as a primary source.

Yes, but encyclopedia’s with reliable editors aren’t at the mercy of activists with axes to grind.

Moreover, most encyclopedia’s at least have some regulations to control the quality of their sources.

Wikipedia certainly doesn’t and that’s why it’s utter shit when it comes to just about any remotely controversial topic.

There’s a reason high school teachers and college professors usually forbid it being used as a cite, which is not necessarily the case with more reliable encyclopedias.

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**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2011, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-wikipedia-wackiness/578297/16 "2011-04-14T00:59:36Z")

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> **[English plurals](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_plural)**
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> English nouns are inflected for grammatical number, meaning that, if they are of the countable type, they generally have different forms for singular and plural. This article discusses the variety of ways in which English plural nouns are formed from the corresponding singular forms, as well as various issues concerning the usage of singulars and plurals in English. For plurals of pronouns, see English personal pronouns.
> Phonological transcriptions provided in this article are for Received Pronu...

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**Author:** ![6ImpossibleThingsB4Breakfast](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/6/e19adc/32.png) [@6ImpossibleThingsB4Breakfast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/6ImpossibleThingsB4Breakfast)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2011, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-wikipedia-wackiness/578297/17 "2011-04-14T01:11:15Z")

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> [@Arnold\_Winkelried](#):
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> What is it that’s so wrong? I can’t tell. There is [a table](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academy_award#Ceremony) showing Academy Award ceremony dates and the Hosts for the awards. The column on the right (Hosts) is supposed to be the Masters of Cermony for that particular award ceremony, not actors in the movie that was the Best Picture winner. Or am I totally confused?

It is _I_, **Arnold Winkelried** perpetuating misinformation in true Wanki form.

You are indeed correct.

..though I’m _sure_ I remember Whoopi Goldburg in _Schinder’s List_…

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Nader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Darth\_Nader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Nader)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2011, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-wikipedia-wackiness/578297/18 "2011-04-14T01:13:59Z")

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Never mind

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**Author:** ![MsRobyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90ced4/32.png) [@MsRobyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsRobyn)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2011, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-wikipedia-wackiness/578297/19 "2011-04-14T01:34:44Z")

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[Y’all need to check this out.](http://citationneeded.tumblr.com)

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**Author:** ![Arnold\_Winkelried](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Arnold\_Winkelried](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arnold_Winkelried)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2011, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-wikipedia-wackiness/578297/20 "2011-04-14T01:49:19Z")

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> [@6ImpossibleThingsB4Breakfast](#):
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> It is _I_, **Arnold Winkelried** perpetuating misinformation in true Wanki form.
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> You are indeed correct.

Except John DiFool seems to be saying that he is putting the movie actors in the right-hand (Hosts) column because that is what should be in there?

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