# Morgan Freeman accused of sexual harassment

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/morgan-freeman-accused-of-sexual-harassment/814734>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [May 24, 2018, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/morgan-freeman-accused-of-sexual-harassment/814734 "2018-05-24T15:24:13Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 16\
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**Author:** ![Two\_Many\_Cats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8dc957/32.png) [@Two\_Many\_Cats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_Many_Cats)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2018, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/morgan-freeman-accused-of-sexual-harassment/814734/41 "2018-05-25T17:02:28Z")

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Too late!  
_Sleazy Reader, that’s my name  
I say, uh, uh, uh…  
Bein’ sleazy, that’s my game  
I say, uh, uh, uh…  
Up and down and left to right  
I stare at women…it ain’t right!  
Sleazy Reader, that’s my name  
I say, uh, uh, uh…_

I **begged** someone to stop me!

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2018, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/morgan-freeman-accused-of-sexual-harassment/814734/42 "2018-05-25T17:26:27Z")

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Man, I’m starting to feel bad for white people. Two of their most venerated media figures, Charlie Rose and Garrison Keillor, going down due to their behavior towards women.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2018, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/morgan-freeman-accused-of-sexual-harassment/814734/43 "2018-05-25T17:42:26Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Wait, you mean to tell me that the police won’t do their job? If the police won’t do their job why would this new pseudo-law enforcement group be any more empowered?

I’m not sure what this has to do with my post. Are you disagreeing with me? If so, on what point of my post?

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2018, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/morgan-freeman-accused-of-sexual-harassment/814734/44 "2018-05-25T20:36:57Z")

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> [@aldiboronti](#):
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> So now everyone and his uncle is scouring past videos of Morgan Freeman interviews to find the least bit of impropriety.  
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> For fuck’s sake, the old guy still has a libido. Shoot him already. This isn’t Weinstein, it’s penny-ante stuff. And anyway it’s for the reporters concerned to say if they were offended, not some hack at ET.

And FFS, ET has lasted this long by playing on how hot, not talented, its hostesses are. View their omnipresent legs.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2018, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/morgan-freeman-accused-of-sexual-harassment/814734/45 "2018-05-25T21:29:43Z")

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> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> Man, I’m starting to feel bad for white people. Two of their most venerated media figures, Charlie Rose and Garrison Keillor, going down due to their behavior towards women.

It’s the Jews in particular I feel sorry for - I mean, Harvey Weinstein, Woody Allen, Al Franken, Brett Ratner, Dustin Hoffman, Jeffrey Tambor …

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**Author:** ![Hampshire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hampshire/32/4887_2.png) [@Hampshire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hampshire)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2018, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/morgan-freeman-accused-of-sexual-harassment/814734/46 "2018-05-25T22:38:06Z")

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I see it as being the nature of the business. You don’t get anywhere in Hollywood being humble and putting others before yourself. You suceed by being a narcisist and putting yourself first. This is an idustry that creates its own reward shows so they can pat eachothers backs and tell eachother how great and important they are.  
Take a narcisist and surround them with people that reinforce their beliefs about their self importance and you get an upward spiral where they eventually consider themselves entitled and their actions beyond reproach.

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**Author:** ![Silver\_lining](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aca169/32.png) [@Silver\_lining](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_lining)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2018, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/morgan-freeman-accused-of-sexual-harassment/814734/47 "2018-05-26T19:39:23Z")

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> [@Major\_Major](#):
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> I feel bad for black people at this point - they’ve had two of their most wholesome idols (cosby and now freeman) revealed to be sex fiends.

Holding famous actors, athletes, or musicans in high moral esteem isn’t very wise. They don’t live by the same rules.

More focus is needed on doctors, teachers, the military, or coaches. Those people tend to be the hero’s.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2018, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/morgan-freeman-accused-of-sexual-harassment/814734/48 "2018-05-26T19:47:40Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> I’m not sure what this has to do with my post. Are you disagreeing with me? If so, on what point of my post?

What I’m saying is that whatever forces that exist that prevent the police and the judicial system from doing their jobs, if not eliminated, will prevent your new industry specific pseudo law enforcement/court from doing theirs. Therefore, the solution isn’t making new regulatory bodies. The solution is mitigating the influence of those that prevent the police from doing their job.

I’m not sure if that is possible in the short term. Maybe when attitudes such as yours of zero tolerance for certain behavior and the energy to make it a priority become more widespread then the grassroots demand for better behavior will lead to change. But as long as the public enriches people of low character I don’t think we will change the behavior of the powerful to a significant degree.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2018, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/morgan-freeman-accused-of-sexual-harassment/814734/49 "2018-05-26T19:50:07Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> What I’m saying is that whatever forces that exist that prevent the police and the judicial system from doing their jobs, if not eliminated, will prevent your new industry specific pseudo law enforcement/court from doing theirs. Therefore, the solution isn’t making new regulatory bodies. The solution is mitigating the influence of those that prevent the police from doing their job.
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> I’m not sure if that is possible in the short term. Maybe when attitudes such as yours of zero tolerance for certain behavior and the energy to make it a priority become more widespread then the grassroots demand for better behavior will lead to change. But as long as the public enriches people of low character I don’t think we will change the behavior of the powerful to a significant degree.

I think history shows that additional oversight can actually be effective in some circumstances – for example, federal civil rights oversight of racist state and local governments in the 60s. The underlying issues of racism and bigotry still existed, but the federal government was still able to mitigate this to some degree through careful oversight. While fighting the underlying issues related to sexism and misogyny is also necessary, oversight could also supplement these efforts in the short and medium term to ensure that victims and survivors have an independent recourse that wouldn’t threaten their careers.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2018, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/morgan-freeman-accused-of-sexual-harassment/814734/50 "2018-05-26T19:59:52Z")

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> [@Sir\_T-Cups](#):
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> Wasn’t this the guy who got into a car accident while driving his 20-something mistress around that he was cheating on his wife with?
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> Can’t say I’m surprised

Apparently [no, she wasn’t his mistress and she was 48](https://people.com/celebrity/mystery-female-passenger-sues-morgan-freeman-over-car-crash/).

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> She was the woman in the Nissan with Morgan Freeman when it flipped over last summer in Mississippi. She was not only injured, but chased by rumor and innuendo, since at the time nobody knew who she was or why Freeman was driving with her while in the midst of a divorce from his wife.
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> On Wednesday, Demaris Meyer, 48, came forward to both announce a federal lawsuit against the Oscar-winning actor seeking money to pay for injuries and to clarify her relationship with him.
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> “I am not ‘Miss Daisy’ as I have been referred to in the press,” Meyer tearfully told a news conference. “I was not and never have been his mistress, nor was I the cause of his marital breakup.”

So there; all your snide accusations and terrible implications are unfounded.

Kind of unfair of you to cast aspersions like that, especially when everyone knows that [the _real_ rumor is that his 20-something step-granddaughter was his mistress](https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/10/edena-hines-morgan-freema_n_229070.html).

😃

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**Author:** ![Asuka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@Asuka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asuka)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2018, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/morgan-freeman-accused-of-sexual-harassment/814734/51 "2018-05-26T20:20:27Z")

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> [@Kobal2](#):
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> What with Michael Jackson and the Juice, they’re probably well used to it by now. I hope Obama isn’t next.

Well according to some peace organizations Obama is a war criminal, so whether that’s better or worse than being a sexual assaulter is up to you.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2018, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/morgan-freeman-accused-of-sexual-harassment/814734/52 "2018-05-26T22:53:19Z")

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Y’know, never really saw him as an example of virtue, just as a damn fine actor. People have GOT to stop looking up to people on the screen/stage as paragons, they get paid for faking a character.

> [@Bijou\_Drains](#):
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> Some of the incidents were just a few years back.

This is one of the bits that always ticks me off about guys denounced like this… the carrying on into recent times – I mean, sure, talk about narcissism and oportunism but how stupidly out-of-it entitled have you got to be to keep taking these sorts of liberties in this century?? Who the hell living after 1990 would think this was something fixers could keep it durably fixed?? Sure, I can deal with someone saying _“oh, back in the 60s/70s (or, back when we all lived on gin and cocaine), those were other times, but I cleaned up my act, thank (Jesus/Xenu/Prozac)”_. Good for ya, bro. But to just soldier on as if nothing?  
Dammit, we’re talking an entire social/business ecosystem which it seems WAS okay all along with that getting grabbed by the you know where was just an occupational hazard you had to deal with. Turns out he was right all along.

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**Author:** ![China\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@China\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/China_Guy)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2018, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/morgan-freeman-accused-of-sexual-harassment/814734/53 "2018-05-27T04:48:37Z")

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> [@aldiboronti](#):
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> So now everyone and his uncle is scouring past videos of Morgan Freeman interviews to find the least bit of impropriety.
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> [So far this is all they came up with.](http://uk.businessinsider.com/entertainment-tonight-reveals-questionable-behavior-morgan-freeman-2018-5?r=US&IR=T)
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> For fuck’s sake, the old guy still has a libido. Shoot him already. This isn’t Weinstein, it’s penny-ante stuff. And anyway it’s for the reporters concerned to say if they were offended, not some hack at ET.

That video is boorish but doesn’t seem to validate being a rapist. There are legitimate concerns out there, and I have an 18 year old going to make her way in an LA film school this fall, but there is a huge grey area betweten something that \*could \*be considered offensive and crossing a legal line. Dunno, maybe as a tail end baby boomer I think precious snowflake territory for that linked video.

for those that didn’t watch the video, the interview with an attractive female reporter included the lines of “are you single” “interested in older guys”? I would like to see something more than that. Christ alfucking Mighty, if I said that to a supermarket check out person of either sex, would charges be filed? (Maybe not the best analogy but it’s what I came up with on the spur of the moment. And I certainly don’t want to be negating other public indications that there is a serious issue such as repeatedly lifting someone’s skirt, etc. But this one video is hardly damning evidence of much of anything.)

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2018, 10:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/morgan-freeman-accused-of-sexual-harassment/814734/54 "2018-05-27T10:06:41Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> This holds for courts of law, not message board discussions, and not article-writing.

So you’d be happy with the same level of opprobrium and being assumed to be guilty if you were the one accused? Thought not.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2018, 11:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/morgan-freeman-accused-of-sexual-harassment/814734/55 "2018-05-27T11:26:45Z")

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> [@Quartz](#):
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> So you’d be happy with the same level of opprobrium and being assumed to be guilty if you were the one accused? Thought not.

Not so fast, Mr. Psychic. If there were multiple credible allegations against me, including corroboration by witnesses, then I would expect people to think it’s likely that the allegations are accurate, and that would be entirely reasonable.

But I’ve never put myself in a positron in which there is any significant chance of having credible allegations with witness corroboration of assault or harassment.

It’s possible all these accusers, and the witnesses, are lying, and it’s also possible Freeman is an alien lizard person. I put the likelihood of those two things as only slightly different.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2018, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/morgan-freeman-accused-of-sexual-harassment/814734/56 "2018-05-27T13:14:35Z")

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> [@China\_Guy](#):
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> That video is boorish but doesn’t seem to validate being a rapist.

Good thing no-one’s said Freeman is a rapist, then.

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