# Morgenstern

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/morgenstern/816064>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 14, 2018, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/morgenstern/816064 "2018-06-14T01:47:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/morgenstern/816064/1 "2018-06-14T01:47:03Z")

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**Morgenstern** has been irritating people lately. (I have a gift for understatement.) It’s gotten to where if you start a word with “M” people spit and cross the street. Some of you are going to come after me for this. **Sunny** - why in the name of all that’s holy would you start a thread for an attention-seeking fool/troll/ass/monster/jerk/hamster like **Morgenstern**? Well, I’ll tell you why. I like to read threads is why. I like to open threads, read the OP, follow a discussion, and maybe enter a post or two myself. I’m sick - SICK I say - of every single thread on the Board being about someone fighting with **Morgenstern** or **Morgenstern** fighting with everyone.

So. Here it is. The equivalent of locking all y’all into a room until you work it out or silence falls. It may not work. You may still fight in every thread from here to eternity, in which case I’ll just watch _Brooklyn 99_ re-runs, and see if **Fotheringay-Phipps** will turn into a singularity if he contorts his arguments enough. That would be cool.

Right then - off you go.  
**Disclosures** - objects in this thread are NOT closer than they appear. I did in fact accept Morgenstern’s apology for being a misogynistic jerk. This is in no way endorses his behavior in other regards, including, but not limited to attacking members for mental health issues, and details of their personal lives.

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/morgenstern/816064/2 "2018-06-14T01:53:13Z")

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I don’t think that every single thread on the Board is about someone fighting with Morgenstern. You are incorrect.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/morgenstern/816064/3 "2018-06-14T01:55:13Z")

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Well, apparently this one isn’t. You win.

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/morgenstern/816064/4 "2018-06-14T01:55:46Z")

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Yay! I won! 😉

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/morgenstern/816064/5 "2018-06-14T01:56:02Z")

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A Pit Thread? Well, I’ll just say this, if he didn’t have sycophants, an audience, and some enablers he wouldn’t be so prolific. He’s your pal so you overlook his sadism.

Anyways, good luck with your thread. I believe you’ll need it.

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/morgenstern/816064/6 "2018-06-14T02:00:06Z")

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I still don’t know who he is. Did he bother my friend **asahi**?

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/morgenstern/816064/7 "2018-06-14T02:01:42Z")

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I just want to point out that the term “scotch egg” has nothing to do with Scotland or Scottish cooking.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/morgenstern/816064/8 "2018-06-14T02:04:42Z")

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> [@Slash1972](#):
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> Yay! I won! 😉

🙂

> [@octopus](#):
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> A Pit Thread? Well, I’ll just say this, if he didn’t have sycophants, an audience, and some enablers he wouldn’t be so prolific. He’s your pal so you overlook his sadism.
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> Anyways, good luck with your thread. I believe you’ll need it.

Please read the disclosures from the OP. I made them purple this time.

> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> **Disclosures** - objects in this thread are NOT closer than they appear. I did in fact accept Morgenstern’s apology for being a misogynistic jerk. This is in no way endorses his behavior in other regards, including, but not limited to attacking members for mental health issues, and details of their personal lives.

> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> I just want to point out that the term “scotch egg” has nothing to do with Scotland or Scottish cooking.

Is there egg?

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**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/morgenstern/816064/9 "2018-06-14T02:07:25Z")

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OP, whatta you got against hamsters?

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/morgenstern/816064/10 "2018-06-14T02:11:56Z")

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> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> 🙂
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> Please read the disclosures from the OP. I made them purple this time.
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> Is there egg?

There most certainly is an egg, but there is no spoon.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/morgenstern/816064/11 "2018-06-14T02:13:43Z")

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Ok, how about you copy and paste his PM apology over the “sexism on the Dope” posts as a starting point, Sunny. Or is this purely a “lets you and him fight” kinda thing? Because being worried about Morgenstern talk hijacking the OTrU thread is beyond lame.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/morgenstern/816064/12 "2018-06-14T02:15:50Z")

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I read them. It’s just that Morgenstern is cowardly, note he isn’t defending himself against Bone or the other folks who gave him a bit of a slapping/his own medicine in the Troll thread, and he NEEDS an audience. He found some people he could create a fake affinity with and work with to harass and drive off others who were for whatever reason weak enough to be marginalized. If you are pissed or annoyed with him sufficiently to Pit him instead of giving him attention like this Pit thread does just ignore him. He thrives on feedback, positive or negative it’s all the same to him.

I know all this appears ironic coming from me as I know people’s perspectives of me on this board. But the main difference is Morgenstern is the bully who punches the weak. I counter-punch the bully. Which is counterproductive and unpopular on a board where bullying is condoned.

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**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/morgenstern/816064/13 "2018-06-14T02:17:28Z")

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“Hamster” is an insult now? I had no idea. What, is it like the “gerbilling” type of hamster? 'Cause then I’d understand it as more of an insult. 😉

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/morgenstern/816064/14 "2018-06-14T02:27:40Z")

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Hedgehog. Prickly with a soft underbelly. No person is all bad. Some of you surely know me a bit. I know I am a little Pollyanna. I can’t help it. I still think Morgenstern has something to offer. He needs to quit concentrating on a particular poster and jumping in all the way. That could happen. Couldn’t it?

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/morgenstern/816064/15 "2018-06-14T02:47:45Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> Hedgehog. Prickly with a soft underbelly. No person is all bad. Some of you surely know me a bit. I know I am a little Pollyanna. I can’t help it. I still think Morgenstern has something to offer.

Yeah, a face for slappin’.

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**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/morgenstern/816064/16 "2018-06-14T03:07:01Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> A Pit Thread? Well, I’ll just say this, if he didn’t have sycophants, an audience, and some enablers he wouldn’t be so prolific. He’s your pal so you overlook his sadism.

What’s your excuse then?

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/morgenstern/816064/17 "2018-06-14T03:18:01Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> Ok, how about you copy and paste his PM apology over the “sexism on the Dope” posts as a starting point, Sunny. Or is this purely a “lets you and him fight” kinda thing? Because being worried about Morgenstern talk hijacking the OTrU thread is beyond lame.

If you look you’ll notice I regularly start Pit threads when the bickering in OTRU gets annoying.

> [@Ambivalid](#):
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> “Hamster” is an insult now? I had no idea. What, is it like the “gerbilling” type of hamster? 'Cause then I’d understand it as more of an insult. 😉

I’ll leave that up to you. 😉 I was thinking more Monty Python myself.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/morgenstern/816064/18 "2018-06-14T03:20:10Z")

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> [@Chisquirrel](#):
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> What’s your excuse then?

I have my own Pit thread. Don’t derail this one and if you could read I explained the difference already.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/morgenstern/816064/19 "2018-06-14T05:14:36Z")

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> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> If you look you’ll notice I regularly start Pit threads when the bickering in OTRU gets annoying.  
> .

Well, fuck you and your thread then.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/morgenstern/816064/20 "2018-06-14T05:35:05Z")

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What’s OTRU?

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