# Mormonism **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [October 29, 1999, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mormonism/17848 "1999-10-29T14:21:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Flinx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e79b87/32.png) [@Flinx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flinx)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2000, 9:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mormonism/17848/181 "2000-03-29T09:25:00Z")
Bossbuster wrote: > [@](#): > > ok, I guess its that time of the week again. > > (Flinx) It’s called “Lying for the Lord,” I believe. > > interesting you should bring that up! Obviously we’re talking about two different things here. I’m talking about anti-Mormons lying about their past as “Mormons.” You’re talking about something else entirely. > [@](#): > > (FLinx) “Yes, there are disgruntled Mormons who leave the church. So what? There are disgruntled Catholics who leave the Catholic church too. There are disgruntled Presbyterians who leave that church. Anecdotal evidence proves very little about anything.” > > “So what” you say?! When pointing out flaws of the catholic church, I think ex-catholics would be a very valuble source! Come on! Yes, I’m just completely confident that I would get the correct picture of Catholicism from an angry former Catholic who would do anything to discredit that church (including lie). > [@](#): > > And just out of curiosity, what kind of evidence would prove anything to you? Could you even think of anything that would shake your faith? I doubt it, you’ve got all potential problems covered. Alltough they’re covered with tape and rubberbands. ( A problem hardly exclusive to Mormonism.) Sure, I can think of two things that would shake my faith. 1) If the Lord told me through personal revelation that my church wasn’t true. 2) If the prophet started preaching anti-Mormon doctrine. Neither of these things is going to happen, my friend, so my faith is secure. ---
**Author:** ![bossbuster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/13edae/32.png) [@bossbuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bossbuster)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2000, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mormonism/17848/182 "2000-03-30T01:48:00Z")
**Yes, I’m just completely confident that I would get the correct picture of Catholicism from an angry former Catholic who would do anything to discredit that church (including lie).** So we can’t trust ex(certain religion) and we can’t trust non(certain religions) to critique a religion. The only ones we can trust to comment on a religion, are the current faithful? Boy! you really are covering your assets! **Sure, I can think of two things that would shake my faith. 1) If the Lord told me through personal revelation that my church wasn’t true. 2) If the prophet started preaching anti-Mormon doctrine. Neither of these things is going to happen, my friend, so my faith is secure.** Wow! blinders feelin a little tight? I’m sure if the “lord” told you mormonism was false, you’d assume it was the devil. (what other choice would you have) BTW, maybe they lord sent me to tell you this! (hint hint) 😉 And Second, your #2 has allready happened. But all “good” mormons call it a “revelation” Everytime a prophet has one, he starts preaching the new, (previously anti-mormon), doctrine. I could be wrong…it happend once before… ---
**Author:** ![Flinx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e79b87/32.png) [@Flinx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flinx)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2000, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mormonism/17848/183 "2000-03-30T04:26:00Z")
> [@](#): > > \*\*Flinx:\*\*Yes, I’m just completely confident that I would get the correct picture of Catholicism from an angry former Catholic who would do anything to discredit that church (including lie). > > **Bossbuster** So we can’t trust ex(certain religion) and we can’t trust non(certain religions) to critique a religion. The only ones we can trust to comment on a religion, are the current faithful? Boy! you really are covering your assets! You do have a point. But I don’t think a disgruntled ex[certain religion] is going to give us the whole story, somehow… > [@](#): > > \*\*Flinx:\*\*Sure, I can think of two things that would shake my faith. 1) If the Lord told me through personal revelation that my church wasn’t true. 2) If the prophet started preaching anti-Mormon doctrine. Neither of these things is going to happen, my friend, so my faith is secure. > > \*\*Bossbuster:\*\*Wow! blinders feelin a little tight? > > I’m sure if the “lord” told you mormonism was false, you’d assume it was the devil. You’re “sure,” huh? Gee, it’s nice to have someone else tell you what you would believe if a certain event happened. You must know me better than I know myself, BB! The Lord is well able to identify Himself unmistakeably in a way Satan cannot imitate. It can be described as a “burning in the bosom,” a great feeling of peace and love, etc. Satan can’t mimic those, though he tries. > [@](#): > > (what other choice would you have) > BTW, maybe they lord sent me to tell you this! (hint hint) > > And Second, your #2 has allready happened. But all “good” mormons call it a “revelation” > > Everytime a prophet has one, he starts preaching the new, (previously anti-mormon), doctrine. Please give one example of a prophet having a revelation that is “anti-Mormon” in nature. The Manifesto that suspended the practice of polygamy doesn’t count, nor does the revelation that blacks could now hold the LDS priesthood, since those two revelations were not “anti-Mormon” in nature (the suspension of polygamy was to preserve the church, not to attack it, and it didn’t change the doctrine of polygamy–it merely suspended the practice, which will recommence after Christ returns; and the revelation that blacks could hold the priesthood was the fulfillment of prophecy, not in the least bit “anti-Mormon”). ---
**Author:** ![Flinx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e79b87/32.png) [@Flinx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flinx)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2000, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mormonism/17848/184 "2000-03-30T16:38:00Z")
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