# Mormonism

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mormonism/17848>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [October 29, 1999, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mormonism/17848 "1999-10-29T14:21:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![NewtonsApple](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a87d85/32.png) [@NewtonsApple](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NewtonsApple)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2000, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mormonism/17848/141 "2000-01-27T19:34:00Z")

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Andros-

Your hope will be rewarded, but more than likely by me using another USERNAME.

I have brought down the wrath of those who wish to keep me out.

Oh well huh?

-N

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2000, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mormonism/17848/142 "2000-01-27T19:35:00Z")

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Poly: Thanks.

SJ: I thoroughly enjoyed those animated comics! Can’t wait until the next issue is out. Haven’t laughed so hard in quite some time!

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2000, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mormonism/17848/143 "2000-01-27T19:39:00Z")

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I’d like to point something out. Before I do, realize that these are just a few observations I have made, along with the relevant links in case anyone feels like following up.

1. The whole stuff with Phaedrus goes down.
2. Around that same time, NewtonsApple appears.
3. Newt posts in a GD thread about abortion, claiming that his wife still cries herself to sleep at night over an abortion years and years ago. [http://www.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/000957.html](http://www.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/000957.html)
4. Newt’s wife also likes to get it up the butt. [http://www.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum4/HTML/004214.html](http://www.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum4/HTML/004214.html)
5. Newt has been on this board since last June under another username. [http://www.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum4/HTML/004295.html](http://www.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum4/HTML/004295.html)
6. In the same thread in which he admits he’s been here since last June, he asks posters for information about themselves that anyone who has been here for that amount of time could have easily figured out.
7. Newt uses LBMB lingo, especially “bump.” [http://www.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/002080-2.html](http://www.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/002080-2.html)
8. In this thread, Newt claims to have evidence for a Christian assertion, then when pressed to provide said evidence, does not.
9. In these threads, Phaedrus does the exact same thing. [http://www.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum5/HTML/000521.html](http://www.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum5/HTML/000521.html)[http://www.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/000488.html](http://www.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/000488.html)

Now, I’m not claiming that NewtonsApple is Phaedrus. Very little of the evidence seems to point in that direction. However, there is very little consistency to our friend Newt, and I, for one, am beginning to wonder why.

I actually got into a minor argument with Satan when he jumped all over Newt in MPSIMS for seemingly knowing too much. Let me be the first to admit that I may very well have been wrong.

## So, Newt, what name were you posting under, and why did you feel the need to change? Most of our regulars who change their usernames post a thread about it in MPSIMS or ATMB, just to let everyone else know who they are. Why the secrecy? And why all the other inconsistency? In light of everything I’ve shown here, I think we need some explanations.

“Buffalo Bills? Oh, yeah. The guys that always snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.” --WallyM7

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2000, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mormonism/17848/144 "2000-01-27T19:41:00Z")

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And while I was composing this, Newt threatens to use another username, even though this is against the rules.

Thank you for helping me prove my point much better than I could have done alone, Newt. Now 'fess up.

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**Author:** ![Glitch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/0ea827/32.png) [@Glitch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Glitch)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2000, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mormonism/17848/145 "2000-01-27T19:49:00Z")

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> Now, I’m not claiming that NewtonsApple is Phaedrus.

Drain Bead, I don’t think they are one in the same. There is distinct differences between Phaedrus writing style and NA’s. Phaedrus, for all of his problems, was articulate if somewhat incomplete. Also, Phaedrus loved posting multiple times, and very long messages. Phaedrus would normally answer multiple people in different posts, rather than answer multiple people in a single post. Phaedrus didn’t seem to have the penchant for violence that NA does.

Granted Phaedrus’ obviously likening to using a persona means that anything is possible, but it seems to me that the underlying persons are not the same.

Nice investigation though.

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**Author:** ![smilingjaws](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b782af/32.png) [@smilingjaws](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smilingjaws)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2000, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mormonism/17848/146 "2000-01-27T19:49:00Z")

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Monty, Thanks for correcting my proofreading error.

As to “intentionally misleading exaggeration is an intentional lie.” I beg to differ. I cannot possibly understand how you can determine my itentions for using hyperbole.  
Going by your own definition–you intentionally mislead other readers by claiming I was a liar because I used hyperbole. Now, what logical deduction can I make about you, based on YOUR logic?

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**Author:** ![David\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/51bf81/32.png) [@David\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David_B)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2000, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mormonism/17848/147 "2000-01-27T20:01:00Z")

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Glitch – I vote for MikeylikesIt and company.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2000, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mormonism/17848/148 "2000-01-27T20:02:00Z")

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Oh,maybew that we’re both just a couple of fun loving hypocrites?

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**Author:** ![Felice](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a88e4f/32.png) [@Felice](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Felice)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2000, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mormonism/17848/149 "2000-01-27T21:39:00Z")

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## I second David’s guess. Sigh. I’m never going to find about polygamy in Heaven, am I?

Felice

“There’s always a bigger fish.”

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**Author:** ![GLWasteful](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f05b48/32.png) [@GLWasteful](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GLWasteful)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2000, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mormonism/17848/150 "2000-01-27T22:03:00Z")

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Oh, hell, Felice. Is that all you wanted to know?

The answer is yes, lots and lots of polygamy in heaven.

Unless you don’t want it. Then all polygamy will be banned.

Waste  
Flick Lives!

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**Author:** ![Felice](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a88e4f/32.png) [@Felice](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Felice)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2000, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mormonism/17848/151 "2000-01-27T22:10:00Z")

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## (laugh) Actually, I’m not all that concerned about polygamy in Heaven. One wife would be more than enough for me, thanks. I was more interested in polyandry!

Felice

“There’s always a bigger fish.”

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**Author:** ![GLWasteful](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f05b48/32.png) [@GLWasteful](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GLWasteful)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2000, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mormonism/17848/152 "2000-01-27T22:46:00Z")

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Oh, well, **that** I’m not qualified to comment on.

Of course, that didn’t stop me earlier, but in the words of a great man, “Oh well, what the hell”.

Waste  
Flick Lives!

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2000, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mormonism/17848/153 "2000-01-27T22:46:00Z")

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Felice, this is all I could find: [http://ldscn.com/wool/eternalmarriage.shtml](http://ldscn.com/wool/eternalmarriage.shtml)

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2000, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mormonism/17848/154 "2000-01-27T23:01:00Z")

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Okay. According to my boyfriend’s faulty memory, he says that a man in heaven can have more than one wife, but a woman cannot have more than one husband. He thinks so. Pretty sure.

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**Author:** ![smilingjaws](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b782af/32.png) [@smilingjaws](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smilingjaws)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2000, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mormonism/17848/155 "2000-01-28T20:39:00Z")

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Try Google and type in celestial marriage LDS  
You get lots of sites where you can hopefully find the answer to your question.

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**Author:** ![David\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/51bf81/32.png) [@David\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David_B)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2000, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mormonism/17848/156 "2000-01-28T20:44:00Z")

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Is there nagging in heaven? 'Cus if there is, no man would _want_ more than one wife. Hell, a lot of men wouldn’t even want one!

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2000, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mormonism/17848/157 "2000-01-28T21:55:00Z")

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The wife getting on your nerves lately, David?

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**Author:** ![Felice](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a88e4f/32.png) [@Felice](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Felice)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2000, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mormonism/17848/158 "2000-01-28T22:01:00Z")

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Of course there is. What kind of a heaven would it be if a wife couldn’t nag her husband?  
Silly person…

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Felice

“There’s always a bigger fish.”

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**Author:** ![David\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/51bf81/32.png) [@David\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David_B)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2000, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mormonism/17848/159 "2000-01-28T22:02:00Z")

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> Originally posted by orangecakes:  
> The wife getting on your nerves lately, David?

Don’t go jumpin’ to conclusions, Orangey (I know, you’re just hoping so I’ll come to you).

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**Author:** ![David\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/51bf81/32.png) [@David\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David_B)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2000, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mormonism/17848/160 "2000-01-28T22:03:00Z")

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[QUOTE]  
Originally posted by Felice:  
What kind of a heaven would it be if a wife couldn’t nag her husband?

[QUOTE]  
So woman’s heaven is man’s hell, eh?

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