This is the post that got him suspended, right?
Yikes. I hope I don’t run into that chicken I had for dinner last night. That could get AWKWARD.
Yeah right, like anyone who posts here will be considered worthy.
Though it is interesting to realize that, according to this not-universally-acknowledged belief, among the other indignities that the mormon god will heap upon the hordes of people not allowed into the upper echelon of the upper echelon of the upper echelon, they will also all be permanently separated from their pets, and probably will no longer be allowed access to beef (because God will be eating it all).
Now they are also Become, which covers both nomenclatures while not divulging the name of the church in the website address; kind of like an MLM!
Hmm, I could have sworn this was a Pit thread.
Are they really too clueless to anticipate the deluge of “begone” jokes this invites?
Clueless does not scratch the surface, friend.
The Mormon nut in charge of the Mormon Church now says that the Mormon God told him that calling the Mormon Church “The Mormon Church” is a major victory for Satan. Mormon.
Another one implied that unmarried people and couples that don’t raise children are playing a part in Satan’s plan. This wouldn’t be such a huge deal, but he included LGBTQ people in that group of Satan’s minions, and considering how many kids are Mormon and LGBTQ that’s a ground shaker. Many of their parents are furious and concerned there will be even more suicides.
Like any religion they make changes to maintain their base and they have been taking active steps towards mainlining for the past several decades.
As the church is run by the laity how much this applies at the stake or ward level will depend on the whims of the local population. The President of the church is often the most visible to the public but often is not implemented fully at the local level.
I guess time will tell if the change is here is accepted like the Episcopal name was for the church o f England or not.
I agree with another poster above that this doesn’t illustrate a lack of hypocrisy.
I also see it as similar to flirty fishing: a favor tied to proselytization. It’s just a question of degree.
2 HOUR CHURCH!!! We got 2 hour church!!!
How can the church President not be implemented at a local level?
This is actually one of the largest problems I have with Mormonism.
From my earlier post** we can see that the current prophet, Russell Nelson has wanted to make this change since 1990, but was publically corrected by a then higher ranking official, and that the Mormon church itself ran a long-running, multimillion dollar PR campaign “I am a Mormon” starting in 2010.
So Nelson’s personal preference has now been elevated to a cosmic struggle, with the fate of the world lying in balance. People are expected to blindly, and questioningly follow this new direction. People will be expected to shut off the part of the brain which asks if former President Hinkley, the one who publically smacked Nelson down in 1990, was in fact a tool of the devil. People are explicitly discouraged from questioning why the church, notorious for being extremely stingy about giving to the poor, spend untold millions of dollars on publicizing that exact name which Satan loves so much.
Why could the top leadership be so blind? Absolutely no questions such as that will be brought forward, even if someone were to actually think about it.
My mother will unquestionably return to not using that name. She will feel happy that God has provided further direction and had I still have been a child, she would have been bubbling over with enthusiasm for knowing that we have always been at war with Eastasia.
There will be no questions asking if even the former president and prophet of the church gets it so absolutely wrong, how do we know that the current president understands God any better?
Ex-Mormons find it extremely frustrating trying to discuss this with current members. If the name were that offensive, why was its use pushed that long and that hard? Why the flip-flops? How can the current prophet be so definitive, without allowing questions to be asked about those who now can be understood to be “wrong” including the vast majority of previous prophets.
Now there shouldn’t be any wiggle room. It’s not part of the cosmic battle between the forces of Evil and those persecuted tiny minority, the only ones brave enough to engage in battle of God’s behalf.
**Note. See previous post:
And should it all blow up in Rusty’s face, or be condemned after he dies by the next prophet, it will be decreed he was speaking as a man rather than as a living prophet (who it’s presumed has received their Second Atonement, making their salvation sure so their actions until earthly death may be considered to be flawless).
I’ll do my best to use the term by which they wish to be addressed as I try to do for other people. If I slip up it will be because of habit, not malice.
No “they.” You will use the term that one elderly man who thinks he speaks for God commands that they be addressed.
More specifically, pretty much every meeting except sacrament meeting and the general conference main sessions will only happen half as often.
And what I’m wondering is, why? What does the mormon church hope to achieve by making this change? What’s the motivation? Is it to make church seem less unappealing to people who want to be not-there? Is it to make it possible to cram more people into the same spaces, suggesting that the cause is a sudden increase in membership?
I discussed this with my dad, who’s a member, when he told me about the change, but he was unable to advance a theory as to the reasoning. I confess idle curiosity.
Looking at it from a real estate perspective (have you SEEN how much land the church holds???), the less time folks are in the building the cheaper it is to heat/cool/light.
My question is, if church is such an edifying and desirable thing, why are members so happy to be doing less of it?
The real question on 2 hour church is why the heck is that regulated from such a high level? That’s why people think Latter Day Saints are a cult. It’s ludicrous to even think about in any Protestant context that some bishop or high ranking guy would say, “Here’s the schedule that church services must follow and the times they must take up.” Most mainline services last an hour because that’s how long mainlines are willing to sit in their seat without checking their phones and walking out. Evangelicals go about an hour and a half because they have to fit in a 45 minute concert somewhere in there. If such an announcement were made that say Southern Baptist services would now be an hour and fifteen minutes, the response from the laity would not be ‘Phew, save those fifteen minutes finally.’ It would be ‘Screw that noise, we’ll stay as long or short as we want. Who do you think you are?’