# Mornington Crescent Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mornington-crescent-thread/266832>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [September 30, 2004, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mornington-crescent-thread/266832 "2004-09-30T13:08:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Jurph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/50afbb/32.png) [@Jurph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jurph)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mornington-crescent-thread/266832/101 "2004-10-01T19:34:15Z")

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Well, with **Wapping** still blocked by the Unified 20th-C. Rulebook and most earlier variants, I’m going to go ahead and press on with the Delawarean Southern Turn. It’s strong here – but not unbeatable – and I think anyone following me will be in a stronger position for it. Of course, if you’d rather switch to Provisional XXIst-C. (and Appendices), you’re going to have to get out of

**Bermondsey**

first!

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**Author:** ![InvidiousCourgette](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e47c2d/32.png) [@InvidiousCourgette](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/InvidiousCourgette)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mornington-crescent-thread/266832/102 "2004-10-01T20:36:10Z")

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Hey! Is no one paying attention? Turnham Green was illegal. You are not allowed to jump to a station requiring two or more transfers. I don’t think there is a walkable in there. So, moving back, Clapham Junction. I like open games. 😉

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**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mornington-crescent-thread/266832/103 "2004-10-01T21:22:43Z")

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I just found out about the MC game a week or two ago. I _think_ this is legal…

**Tower Hill**

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mornington-crescent-thread/266832/104 "2004-10-01T21:42:03Z")

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Aaaaaand

Embankment.

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**Author:** ![GorillaMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/50afbb/32.png) [@GorillaMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GorillaMan)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mornington-crescent-thread/266832/105 "2004-10-01T22:42:32Z")

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We can put the Tower Hill gambit down to newbie luck…  
Tottenham Court Road

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mornington-crescent-thread/266832/106 "2004-10-01T22:55:06Z")

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Now here’s a pretty thing. According to the 1947 rules (vol.13, third edition) , I could play a triple leap here, but how about this; strictly speaking, alternate laterals are out, but Snerden’s reverse bid manoeuvre is still wide open for the taking; **Charing Cross**.

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**Author:** ![GorillaMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/50afbb/32.png) [@GorillaMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GorillaMan)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mornington-crescent-thread/266832/107 "2004-10-01T23:01:46Z")

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But you open the eternal dilemma of Snerden’s following the Victoria line creation…to play safe, I’ll go for Tower Hill

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mornington-crescent-thread/266832/108 "2004-10-01T23:19:48Z")

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Nice example of rotated sweeping, but watch your cardinals.

**Tower _Gateway_**. Blocking punctuated hatching for the next four moves on the Northern, District and Jubilee lines - cascades and straddled interchanges are, of course, still permissible.

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**Author:** ![GorillaMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/50afbb/32.png) [@GorillaMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GorillaMan)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mornington-crescent-thread/266832/109 "2004-10-01T23:33:10Z")

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Ouch. I guess Canada Water is my only option. That hurt. :mad:

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mornington-crescent-thread/266832/110 "2004-10-01T23:48:33Z")

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Elephant & Castle. Probably my last move for the night - I’m off to bed with Tibbet’s Concise Almanac, volume 14 - expect some serious play tomorrow.

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**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mornington-crescent-thread/266832/111 "2004-10-01T23:58:39Z")

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Ooh! I just found the Straczynski Attack on a MC web site! Maybe my beginner’s luck will continue…

**Morden**

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2004, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mornington-crescent-thread/266832/112 "2004-10-02T00:40:50Z")

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> [@Mangetout](#):
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> Elephant & Castle.

I thought the Patsy Kensit Redundancy Clause would make that move [illegal](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=5313201&postcount=12). Might this fascinated Yank, upon a brief perusal of the rules, humbly suggest **Swindon** as an alternate play here?

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2004, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mornington-crescent-thread/266832/113 "2004-10-02T01:15:30Z")

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For the briefest of moments, I feared you were right, but after an exhaustive search, I can confirm that my combined straddling move to Elephant & Castle is not without precedent; the play is sanctioned by the Modified Luxembourg interpretation (1923), making its first recorded debut in the notable Winterborne-Usbrook game of 1928 and was in fact acknowledged by the umpire, after he regained consciousness.

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**Author:** ![GorillaMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/50afbb/32.png) [@GorillaMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GorillaMan)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2004, 7:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mornington-crescent-thread/266832/114 "2004-10-02T07:28:58Z")

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Very good point. I tend to forget the Lucern modifications which ratified the Luxembourg decisions with regards to deep-level lines.

Monument.

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**Author:** ![Kymodoce](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8797f3/32.png) [@Kymodoce](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kymodoce)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2004, 7:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mornington-crescent-thread/266832/115 "2004-10-02T07:39:34Z")

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My eleven year old son has just suggested **Borough**

Please be gentle with him… he’s just beginning his MC life, I don’t want to shatter his confidence. He’s been reading Morgensens ‘MC - Basics and Minor Switchovers’ and is confident enough to at least start making moves.

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**Author:** ![GorillaMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/50afbb/32.png) [@GorillaMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GorillaMan)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2004, 7:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mornington-crescent-thread/266832/116 "2004-10-02T07:55:20Z")

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Maybe just beginner’s luck, but he’s got me cornered. Sticking with the Northern line isn’t too bad an idea to learn the basics - Luciano Scrozcianevsky famously held a game to the north of Camden Town for several months. Unfortunately, he forfeited the game when he fell asleep. Morden.

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**Author:** ![Iceland\_Blue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/4bbf92/32.png) [@Iceland\_Blue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Iceland_Blue)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2004, 9:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mornington-crescent-thread/266832/117 "2004-10-02T09:27:47Z")

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I must apologize for this.  
I’ve been having odd dreams and as a result this is the first thing that came to mind.Under the MC Classification of Moves Act 1975, I believe this to be restricted viewing for players of 21 years and over. I don’t like taking the game into a Provocative Hollis-Wells Loop, but it’s the best move.

Debden Girls’ School

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**Author:** ![Kymodoce](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8797f3/32.png) [@Kymodoce](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kymodoce)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2004, 11:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mornington-crescent-thread/266832/118 "2004-10-02T11:18:26Z")

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**Iceland** , you’re quite young yourself, aren’t you? If so, it’s not surprising that you are taking the 1975 Act at it’s literal interpretation. Since the Act, there has been considerable debate over it’s credibility and suitability for purpose. Rumours of an all night session and a guillotine motion 3 minutes before the 3AM deadline abound, and as a result Players now pretty much have the freedom to ignore sections 2 to 13.

Whilst the Act may be legally still in force, the spirit of the game shines through in serious play. Accordingly, I stipulate that the Hollis Wells Loop is really not a legal play.

Now, as I am sure you know, a conflict of interpretation during play is resolved through either a duel (rather old hat these days) or a time-restricted poll of players (with a ranking of 7.2 or above). I thereby request that the game be paused whilst any submissions are posted.

Naturally, I will yield in my interpretation to anyone who can provide a Prima Facie argument to the contrary.

Regards,

K.

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**Author:** ![Iceland\_Blue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/4bbf92/32.png) [@Iceland\_Blue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Iceland_Blue)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2004, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mornington-crescent-thread/266832/119 "2004-10-02T13:18:58Z")

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Meanie. I wanted a duel.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2004, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mornington-crescent-thread/266832/120 "2004-10-02T17:43:35Z")

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> [@Mangetout](#):
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> the play is sanctioned by the Modified Luxembourg interpretation (1923)

My goodness. You _are_ old school. I will withdraw to the sidelines and content myself with co-ordinating the wagering.

Five to three on Barefoot Arrivals, with Dead Leicester Albatross to show. Any takers?

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