# Moron soldier in Iraq

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moron-soldier-in-iraq/239936>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 14, 2004, 7:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moron-soldier-in-iraq/239936 "2004-04-14T07:55:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 7\
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**Author:** ![Fish\_Cheer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fish_cheer/32/17179_2.png) [@Fish\_Cheer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fish_Cheer)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2004, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moron-soldier-in-iraq/239936/61 "2004-04-16T14:22:12Z")

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Strike out the second “phrase”.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2004, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moron-soldier-in-iraq/239936/62 "2004-04-16T14:30:33Z")

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> [@fishcheer15](#):
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> The most similar phrase in correct German phrase would be “Meinen Vater haben die Amis getötet”, which does NOT mean “My father killed Americans”, but rather “My father was killed by the Americans”.

Thanks! On a totally unrelated note, does your name actually mean Mackerel Happiness, or is it not in English?

Daniel

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**Author:** ![Fish\_Cheer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fish_cheer/32/17179_2.png) [@Fish\_Cheer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fish_Cheer)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2004, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moron-soldier-in-iraq/239936/63 "2004-04-16T14:57:26Z")

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See [here](http://www.well.com/~cjfish/game.htm#cheer). 🙂

With your permission, I shall use Mackerel Happiness as my nom de plume, though.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2004, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moron-soldier-in-iraq/239936/64 "2004-04-16T15:10:05Z")

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Harumph. Kids these days, no sense of history and classical music, don’t even recognize Country Joe and the Fish. Whippersnappers.

(Aside: consider carefully, **Fishy** : when I chose **elucidator** as my _nom de grrrr_, it never occured to me that I would end up being called **'luci**. Word to the wise.)

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2004, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moron-soldier-in-iraq/239936/65 "2004-04-16T15:42:14Z")

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> [@fishcheer15](#):
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> See [here](http://www.well.com/~cjfish/game.htm#cheer). 🙂
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> With your permission, I shall use Mackerel Happiness as my nom de plume, though.

Go for it – and thanks for the link!

**loosedate** , don’t feel bad about your nickname; coulda been worse. And I had my own “I’m getting old!” moment recently: in line at the local megaplex for _The Ladykillers_, my wife and I swa a teenager point at a poster and say, “Starsky and Hutch? Who’s that?”

We looked at each other in horror, realizing we were old.

Daniel

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**Author:** ![bookbuster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9bd4f/32.png) [@bookbuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bookbuster)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2004, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moron-soldier-in-iraq/239936/66 "2004-04-17T23:31:31Z")

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Well, Larry Mudd had me convinced that it was a fake, but now I don’t know what to beleive.

I will say that **if** the photo was faked, it ceases to get a rise out of me. For the same reason I like violent movies and video games, if it is not actually happening in reality, it’s ok with me. The joke is still in poor taste and all, but I see way worse things on the internet everyday.

> [@MGibson](#):
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> I find it far less embarassing then the quote you cited from the article.  
> Most of us in the civilized world have sense to realize such a joke would be in poor taste. Those in less civilized areas of the world seem to think it’s ok to murder someone to protect family honor.

Yeah, well, I tend to beleive that if America had one iota of honor this place would be a lot more bearable. OK, maybe you shouldn’t kill someone that says they diddled your sister, but how about a nice, honorable, duel? Wait, maybe it is OK to kill them. Make that a nice, honorable, duel to the death. What is wrong with that? I think we would be a happier people.

And there would be less of us. And obviously less shit-talking.

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2004, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/moron-soldier-in-iraq/239936/67 "2004-04-18T02:08:26Z")

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> [@Larry Mudd](#):
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> Thought I may as well post [my comparison animation, too.](http://free.inkfrog.com/pix/larrymudd/marinesign.gif)

To my untrained eyes, it looks like the ‘saved’ is the fake and the ‘kiled’ is the original.

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