# Morrissey's New Album is Out

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [April 5, 2006, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/morrisseys-new-album-is-out/351439 "2006-04-05T17:41:59Z")\
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**Author:** ![Talon\_Karrde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Talon\_Karrde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Talon_Karrde)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2006, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/morrisseys-new-album-is-out/351439/1 "2006-04-05T17:41:59Z")

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Yesterday, Ringleader of the Tormentors came out. I found out when I saw a review, then checked his website and saw that the release date was 4/03. Then I went and got it.

I listened to it once, but I didn’t give it a good listen so I can’t really comment on it very much. His love for the New York Dolls shows through more than on his last album.  
Sorry that this post is so boring, but I don’t really have anything else to say right now. Is anyone else here going to get it?

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**Author:** ![betenoir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/258eb7/32.png) [@betenoir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/betenoir)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2006, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/morrisseys-new-album-is-out/351439/2 "2006-04-05T17:55:06Z")

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His album is out? Be nice if he was.

Err…was that catty? Yes probably, but I’m not in a good mood 🙂  
Anyway sounds interesting. Morrissey and the New York Dolls? I’ll look into it.

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**Author:** ![JohnBckWLD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d6d6ee/32.png) [@JohnBckWLD](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnBckWLD)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/morrisseys-new-album-is-out/351439/3 "2006-04-06T00:38:11Z")

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> [@betenoir](#):
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> …nice if he was…

Last I heard, he defined himself as being asexual. I’ll take him at his word.

I’ve only had a chance to listen to “Ringleader” once so far, so I don’t want to write a review. But at this point, it doesn’t come close to his most recent (IMHO) great album: ‘Your Arsenal’.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Fight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/90ced4/32.png) [@Cat\_Fight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Fight)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/morrisseys-new-album-is-out/351439/4 "2006-04-06T02:11:44Z")

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Unfortunately, I am protesting the album’s realease based on the artists’s country of of origin. Do you know how many innocent animals are slaughtered in the UK every year? It’s worse than Nazi Germany over there!

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**Author:** ![betenoir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/258eb7/32.png) [@betenoir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/betenoir)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/morrisseys-new-album-is-out/351439/5 "2006-04-06T16:52:48Z")

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> [@JohnBckWLD](#):
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> Last I heard, he defined himself as being asexual. I’ll take him at his word.

:dubious:

I’m not sure if I buy that. Sounds more like denial. Particularly given some of his songs.

However it’s none of my business and I will refrain from further comentary in the future beyond regarding his album…which sounds interesting.

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**Author:** ![betenoir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/258eb7/32.png) [@betenoir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/betenoir)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/morrisseys-new-album-is-out/351439/6 "2006-04-06T16:54:22Z")

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> [@Cat Fight](#):
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> Unfortunately, I am protesting the album’s realease based on the artists’s country of of origin. Do you know how many innocent animals are slaughtered in the UK every year? It’s worse than Nazi Germany over there!

Meat is Murder!!!

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**Author:** ![neutron\_star](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/51bf81/32.png) [@neutron\_star](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/neutron_star)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/morrisseys-new-album-is-out/351439/7 "2006-04-06T22:12:17Z")

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I’m not the world’s biggest Morrissey solo fan (I much preferred The Smiths), but I have a friend who is, and has been playing Ringleader incessantly since he downloaded an advance copy a couple of weeks back. (No worries about piracy - this is a guy who’d probably die if he didn’t own a legit copy of everything Morrissey has ever been associated with.)

I have to say that I like the album, though. “Life is a Pigsty” is probably my favorite track so far.

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**Author:** ![waterj2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/858c86/32.png) [@waterj2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/waterj2)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2006, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/morrisseys-new-album-is-out/351439/8 "2006-04-07T00:50:08Z")

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I’ve given it a few listens, and I quite like it. “Dear God Please Help Me” is a bit slow for my taste, but it’s growing on me. I love the children’s chorus on “At Last I Am Born” and the Middle Eastern influences in “I Will See You In Far Off Places.” The store also gave me a promotional copy of the “You Have Killed Me” single on 45, but I don’t have a record player to even see if it’s a diferent version of the song, or find out what “Good Looking Man About Town” even sounds like.

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**Author:** ![waterj2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/858c86/32.png) [@waterj2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/waterj2)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2006, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/morrisseys-new-album-is-out/351439/9 "2006-04-07T00:58:16Z")

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> [@neutron star](#):
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> I’m not the world’s biggest Morrissey solo fan…

You know, while I love his solo stuff, one gets the impression that the world’s _biggest_ Morrissey fan probably requires the sort of obsession that some people might classify as criminally insane.

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**Author:** ![Talon\_Karrde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Talon\_Karrde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Talon_Karrde)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2006, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/morrisseys-new-album-is-out/351439/10 "2006-04-07T06:09:04Z")

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Okay, I’ve given it a couple more listens. So far it doesn’t really grab me like You Are the Quarry did, but I do like the songs well enough.

**betenoir** , I’m afraid that I might have set you up for a big disappointment! It doesn’t sound _that_ much like the New York Dolls. It mostly comes through in the guitar playing in some songs. It sounds more like Mick Ronson than Johnny Thunders, but I mentioned the NY Dolls since Morrissey was the president of their fan club when he was younger.

I once read an interview where Morrissey said that he doesn’t really hold himself to the whole asexual thing anymore. Unfortunately, getting laid doesn’t seem to have improved his disposition, as **Cat Fight** has alluded to.

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**Author:** ![Talon\_Karrde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Talon\_Karrde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Talon_Karrde)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2006, 6:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/morrisseys-new-album-is-out/351439/11 "2006-04-07T06:17:35Z")

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> [@waterj2](#):
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> You know, while I love his solo stuff, one gets the impression that the world’s _biggest_ Morrissey fan probably requires the sort of obsession that some people might classify as criminally insane.

You mean like [this movie](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0373177/?fr=c2l0ZT1kZnx0dD0xfGZiPXV8cG49MHxrdz0xfHE9bW9ycmlzc2V5fGZ0PTF8bXg9MjB8bG09NTAwfGNvPTF8aHRtbD0xfG5tPTE_;fc=101;ft=113;fm=1)? (which I haven’t actually seen)

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**Author:** ![Staggerlee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/staggerlee/32/3134_2.png) [@Staggerlee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Staggerlee)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2006, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/morrisseys-new-album-is-out/351439/12 "2006-04-07T13:22:51Z")

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I’m going to see him in London on 1st May, so although I haven’t heard the new album, I’ll soon be able to tell you how it hears live 🆒 \*

\*That doesn’t seem right - I need a ‘cool’ plus ‘still-very-much-angst-ridden’ smiley.
