# MortSahlFan: Come on down, you twat! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 4, 2020, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mortsahlfan-come-on-down-you-twat/847483 "2020-02-04T16:46:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Blalron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/35a633/32.png) [@Blalron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blalron)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2020, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mortsahlfan-come-on-down-you-twat/847483/61 "2020-06-09T14:06:36Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > This is a fundamental misunderstanding of the extremist progressive ideology that has most recently attached itself to Bernie Sanders, and why he failed to win over minority voter support. “Minorities” are not a monolith though. Bernie did pretty well with Latinos. He also did well with blacks under 30 years old. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2020, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mortsahlfan-come-on-down-you-twat/847483/62 "2020-06-09T14:22:20Z")
> [@Blalron](#): > > “Minorities” are not a monolith though. Bernie did pretty well with Latinos. He also did well with blacks under 30 years old. And? Your original comment was about Black people as a group, to which **QuickSilver** responded. Now, you’re bringing Hispanics in and limiting to Black people under 30. Maybe figure out where you want your goalposts to be first, eh? ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2020, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mortsahlfan-come-on-down-you-twat/847483/63 "2020-10-16T15:41:04Z")
> [@Did Anyone Watch BOTH Town Halls?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-watch-both-town-halls/923102/1): > > I used the DVR so I wouldn’t miss a single minute of each… > > I’m a left-winger, but I’m not supporting either Trump nor Biden. (I’m tired of having to preface, but people jump to conclusions…) > > Trump didn’t do a good job, but it seemed like a hit job, while Biden got softball questions like usual. The moderator attacked Trump more than Biden, but that wasn’t the case of Stefanapolous, who was the campaign manager for Clinton’s campaign. > > Suzanna Guthrie was not only very antagonistic towards Trump, but she asked him almost 50 questions, while the audience received 10, despite this being a “town hall”. > > Guthrie’s husband (Michael Feldman) served as Al Gore’s chief of staff during his 2000 run (after joining Clinton from the very beginning in 92) > > Not a single question about the Biden e-mails, which were also suppressed by Twitter/Fakebook. > > Sometimes things backfire - you know, Trump fans who say “This is unfair” but they’re already voting for him. > > I can’t stand both candidates, but I expect a little bit of fairness when it comes to the highest office in the land. Steve Scully lied about being hacked three times and was supposed to be the moderator for yesterday’s debate… > > I don’t see how we’ll ever be “united”… But I don’t see us (media, etc) ever being fair and objective. The media’s bias is a financial one. Somehow this poster keeps managing to repeat Russian talking points. ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2020, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mortsahlfan-come-on-down-you-twat/847483/64 "2020-10-17T14:48:06Z")
Pretty sure this guy is a troll. In the linked thread he admits using fake political identities on other message platforms. It seems obvious to me that he’s running the same play he says he uses on Yahoo and I guess Reddit as well (talking about upvotes). In that same thread he identified himself as a “left-winger”. That’s a big tell, as it’s not a very common self-descriptor among “left-wingers”. The most reliable tell on crypto-conservatives such as this, IMO, is that they’re obsessed with monitoring the media for bias, but the only takeaway is that the media is sorely biased. That doesn’t automatically make someone a conservative. However, if you’re using the same faulty obsessions that yield the same faulty thought processes, you’re eventually going to adopt all those faulty thoughts (if you haven’t already). I have no idea what’s going on inside his odd little noggin, I just wish to point out this person claims to fake political positions on other sites, and he’s on this website doing what appears to be the same thing. ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2020, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mortsahlfan-come-on-down-you-twat/847483/65 "2020-10-17T15:13:13Z")
He’s been suspended for 2 weeks. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2020, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mortsahlfan-come-on-down-you-twat/847483/66 "2020-10-17T15:41:26Z")
Author my arse. A trolling twat is what he is. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2020, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mortsahlfan-come-on-down-you-twat/847483/67 "2020-10-17T15:47:30Z")
> [@snfaulkner](#): > > He’s been suspended for 2 weeks. Sorry, can’t find that announcement. A little help? ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2020, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mortsahlfan-come-on-down-you-twat/847483/68 "2020-10-17T15:50:44Z")
> [@Did Anyone Watch BOTH Town Halls?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/did-anyone-watch-both-town-halls/923102/97): > > Moderating: IOW you are a professional troller. Suspended for two weeks. Here you go ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2020, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mortsahlfan-come-on-down-you-twat/847483/69 "2020-10-17T16:00:09Z")
Oh. I guess we no longer have the temporary “SUSPENDED” tag. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2020, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mortsahlfan-come-on-down-you-twat/847483/70 "2020-10-17T16:05:23Z")
I’m no great fan of MSF, but are we really suspending people for what they self report they do on other boards now? ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2020, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mortsahlfan-come-on-down-you-twat/847483/71 "2020-10-17T16:10:31Z")
I had nothing to do with this one, so I’ll let someone else answer it. I was just pointing to where the suspension was announced. I will state this though, the decision was not based on just that post. That is usually the case with suspensions and bannings. @kaylasdad99 The SUSPENDED title will probably come later. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2020, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mortsahlfan-come-on-down-you-twat/847483/72 "2020-10-17T16:11:34Z")
OK, gotcha. ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2020, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mortsahlfan-come-on-down-you-twat/847483/73 "2020-10-17T17:00:54Z")
He reported that he has a habit, elsewhere, of falsely identifying his political affiliation to see how people would react to it. He reports that he spends a lot of time doing this because he’s paid to do so. That alone doesn’t mean someone is currently trolling. But he made this declaration in a thread that he started by self-identifying as “I’m a left-winger” and then displaying some talking points and mental habits that are decidedly in conflict with that statement. Conclusion: compulsive troll is compulsively trolling. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2020, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mortsahlfan-come-on-down-you-twat/847483/74 "2020-10-17T17:11:21Z")
All true but he was not suspended for just that post. That was just the catalyst I guess you could say. > [@What\_Exit](#): > > the decision was not based on just that post. That is usually the case with suspensions and bannings. ---
**Author:** ![Ace309](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ace309/32/1050_2.png) [@Ace309](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ace309)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2020, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mortsahlfan-come-on-down-you-twat/847483/75 "2020-10-17T17:47:56Z")
That was, if I recall correctly, part of the basis on which etv87 was finally put out of his misery. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2020, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mortsahlfan-come-on-down-you-twat/847483/76 "2020-10-17T18:03:29Z")
On another web site, he claimed that Carrot Top was a lot funnier than Mort Sahl. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2020, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mortsahlfan-come-on-down-you-twat/847483/77 "2020-10-17T18:09:17Z")
So, why hasn’t he been given the full heave-ho? ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2020, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mortsahlfan-come-on-down-you-twat/847483/78 "2020-10-17T18:37:38Z")
Then who would provide the SDMB with the awareness of Mort Sahl that is so critically needed in these parlous times? ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2020, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mortsahlfan-come-on-down-you-twat/847483/79 "2020-10-17T19:00:29Z")
Just pointing out that the post in question was a self-contained admission of current, past, and likely future trolling. To me that would merit an insta-ban, but I know there’s a process. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2020, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mortsahlfan-come-on-down-you-twat/847483/80 "2020-10-17T19:06:37Z")
You’re not wrong, though he didn’t own up to Trolling here on the Dope. I think that’s a distinction taken into consideration. * * * Speaking as a poster, and from before I was a mod. I believe I already called him out for being an obvious troll. Though I’ll admit as trolls go, his Cafe threads are often of some interest to me. I also actually know and knew who Mort Sahl was. I’m kind of geeky when it comes to older comedians. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mortsahlfan-come-on-down-you-twat/847483.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mortsahlfan-come-on-down-you-twat/847483.md?page=5)